brass eagle sucks you morons

[bunker_guy]

brass eagle sucks balls. why are you people dumb enough to buy that crap. get a spyder or a tippman. they kick any brass eagles *****.

[camoman5000]

Some people might say they suck, but quite frankly the people who say that are a bunch of rich *******s with to much time and money on their hands. Yes, compared to an Autococker or Angel they do suck, but not everybody on the planet has $900.00 to spend (like me). Constructive criticism only please, now you've just wasted your time by typing that garbage, and you've wasted my time too by making me type this. Oh well, at least my frustration is gone a little bit.




32* Rebel ($100, not $900) w/ 32* Sniper Barrel and 200 round Revy

[bunker_guy]

i'm not rich either but instead of buying a piece of crap why dont you save up a little longer and buy a spyder?

[camoman5000]

yeah, i guess you're right, you can buy a good Spyder for around 120

[Villhime98c]

:yell: ok you moron, its idiots like you bunkerguy who piss me off. You think you can just come in here and trash talk BE products just becuse you think they suck. BE products are made for begginers. As for BE product performance, my friends stingray worked for times than his spdyer compact, and chopped alot less balls.

[shamus_73]

I started w/ a syder compact and i've chopped 1 ball the hole time i've played. I dont care who u are rich or poor, u should never buy brass eagle crap. :mad:

[CoCkErBoY2005]

I agree brass eagle sucks, but are good guns for a beginner. My first gun was a stingray (which i had for less than 2 weeks) and now i own a cocker. BE guns are meant for people to get the gun play a couple games to see if they like it, then get a new gun within a month. Not to keep it and play with it for 3 years. Kind of like a disposable camera. You use it once to see if you like it, then it are that in to photography go out and buy an exspensive camera. Don't just keep using the same cheap little thing over and over. People who own exspensive BE guns are just plain STUPID :mad:

[specter542]

ok buddy
you are stupid. if it wasn't for brass eagle ur piddly little pball existance would exist. what kinda mask do u got. if it is a JT, ur a fking hypocrite. BE OWNS AND MANUFACTURES JT. ok?! and brass eagle has paved the way for markers, including ur POS spyder. the spyder compact is the epitome of junk. that think it good for taking paint showers. it sprays more paint than my juggular did when it was sliced, and that was alot.
spyders are made for looks and they make them to look like they are customized, diff. color xchambers, and triggers, sight, etc. BE is a awsome company. yesterday, we got over 60 shots offa an old talon. it was a 12 gram!:yell: :yell:
someone is dumb. the rainmaker is a sweet as gun, and if it weren't for brass eagle, ud be a dirty sloth who lives on a fishing boat sucking on jojo the chimps face.
:atten:
:dunce:

[specter542]

ok buddy
you are stupid. if it wasn't for brass eagle ur piddly little pball existance would exist. what kinda mask do u got. if it is a JT, ur a fking hypocrite. BE OWNS AND MANUFACTURES JT. ok?! and brass eagle has paved the way for markers, including ur POS spyder. the spyder compact is the epitome of junk. that think it good for taking paint showers. it sprays more paint than my juggular did when it was sliced, and that was alot.
spyders are made for looks and they make them to look like they are customized, diff. color xchambers, and triggers, sight, etc. BE is a awsome company. yesterday, we got over 60 shots offa an old talon. it was a 12 gram!:yell:
someone is dumb. the rainmaker is a sweet as gun, and if it weren't for brass eagle, ud be a dirty sloth who lives on a fishing boat sucking on jojo the chimps face.
:atten:
:dunce:

[CoCkErBoY2005]

I don't own a Jt mask, Dye Invision. And yes the rainmaker sucks LOL. Why spend 300 on it, go out and buy a more reliabel elec gun for the same price. As for BE being the company who paved the paintball path? They helped, but there were many other company's :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

[CoCkErBoY2005]

Qouted:

someone is dumb. the rainmaker is a sweet as gun, and if it weren't for brass eagle, ud be a dirty sloth who lives on a fishing boat sucking on jojo the chimps face.


That mad no sense :yell:

[Raptomatic]

Here is a speech for all of us BE owners.

I have a dream, that players will not be judged by the make of their markers, but by the splats on their opposition.

We are the voice of the paintball generation. We are the ones who stubbornly hold our ground with raptors, and talons, and avengers, and stingrays. We are the ones who made the letters B and E stand for more than Break and Entry.

We are the ones that continue to play when the tippmann has eaten away at its gas supply and the spyder has frozen up. We are the ones who show up in the morning happy and leave happy at night. We are the ones who recognize teamwork, and good will, and fun. We are the ones who have money left over to lead lives affiliated with other events than paintball.

We are the few, the proud. We are hardest playing dirt-hitting cover-firing gung-ho team of ruffians on the planet. And we have enough left over to make a bet on that. Care to try us?

[PolicarStudios]

i've used BE balls but they suck A LOT, nothing even compares they chop so much.....i own a JT mask and it's great, but i also used a BE mask and i would have almost felt safer with nothing, it was flimsy and fogged up like crazy....much worse than the 20 dollar other masks we were using or even a ref's mask....never tried a brass eagle marker, but i'll admit they're cheap...25 dollars for a blade or something if it works at all that's a deal. btw, jt maxim paint (good paint from what i hear) is sold by jt but manufactured by rps.....it's not like the same plant makes JT and BE equiptment as much as its that they're owned by the same people

[green_kat]

wait now, brass eagle may make begginer guns, but for like i beleive 90 bux you can get a point zero package, it may be crappy but it is another level of crappy not previously thought of. (in other words point zero = better than BE)

additionally, BE owns JT and VL, but... when they bought vl, they replaced the revy boards with their evil tainted boards, now they sell the original VL boards as x-boards.

and the gunline that BE produces may be allright, not accounting for spontaneous combustion and exploding. But their line of maks are almost unsafe; reports of craked lenses and whatnot makes you question the legitimacy of a product supposedly designed to protect your eyes.

[PolicarStudios]

all too true....my revvy works great but behaves a little funny if i had an automatic or a cocker or something i'd replace it with an xboard (no need to since i don't shoot fast).....also BE masks are simply unsafe, at least the one i used i can't even describe. jt masks are great though! also, a spyder compact costs 80 dollars and is really very good, and i've seen rebels for 50 or 60 dollars (though they break a lot, they're good when they work!)...sure BE products are inexpensive, but so are lots of other good products....there are other cheap markers, masks, and paintballs you can get....or ones that are 10% more and from what i've seen 500% better. (the talon/blade are exceptions....if you want to pay 15 dollars to play paintball, there's nothing else really.....)

[green_kat]

Originally posted by Raptomatic
Here is a speech for all of us BE owners.

I have a dream, that players will not be judged by the make of their markers, but by the splats on their opposition.

We are the voice of the paintball generation. We are the ones who stubbornly hold our ground with raptors, and talons, and avengers, and stingrays. We are the ones who made the letters B and E stand for more than Break and Entry.

We are the ones that continue to play when the tippmann has eaten away at its gas supply and the spyder has frozen up. We are the ones who show up in the morning happy and leave happy at night. We are the ones who recognize teamwork, and good will, and fun. We are the ones who have money left over to lead lives affiliated with other events than paintball.

We are the few, the proud. We are the hardest playing dirt-hitting cover-firing gung-ho team of ruffians on the planet. And we have enough left over to make a bet on that. Care to try us?

coupla questions...

your comment about tippmann air supplies, tippmanns run off of normal air tanks, brass eagle guns run off of 12 grams, not only is it more expensive in the long run but you get 15-20 shots per 12 gram. Now who is out of air?

As for spyders freezing up, Never happened to me, my friend, my other friend. I rapid fire like a mad-man, it never freezes. Now take brass eagles, they don't fire fast enough to freeze. spyders might get about 8 bps if they are lucky. Brass eagles get about 5 spb, or second per ball. see the difference. and how do you cover fire if you don't fire that fast, or far, or accurately, or at all?

Money left over to lead lives? they average 9 year old could afford a spyder comapct after any major holiday or birthday. and then they could choose to play rec with a compact or trade up or upgrade.

and if you hit the dirt with a talon, chances are it will break.

and most of the people who play with brass eagles are generally newbies (wrry to any one out there who i may have offended) so they generally aren't
gung ho ruffians.

:P

[paintball bimbo]

Brass eagle on cares about itself,not anybody else.As long has they have plenty of benjamins they'll sleep like a baby tonight.My friend and I both bought Raptors.He got a Silver Eagle (*** name) from 888paintball.com and I got a Raptor Custom from Wal-Mart.We both played with them five times before the sear snapped in half,got lodged in the air chamber(or a poor excuse of one),and blocked the airflow.This happend to us on the same day,same hour,same game.Its like BE products are wired to a clock that is timed for usage of five times before exploding.I also had a Samuri and the thing leaked so much air it wasn't funny.As soon as I put in the air,I'd see it comming out of the body.I also have a Talon(which is still alive today)which barrel exploded and shattered everywhere(I hot glued it and tapped it back together,LOL) not even before I got to play with it.I also used BE paint(unfortunatly in my cocker)and it broke so many times in my 12 volt,breech and barrel,but amazingly it doesn't break on people***he dude I bought them from(I thought they weren't BE) bought them from the factory and they still sucked!I also had a BE harness which flops around side to side,balls spill everywhere,and makes more noise than a Harley***hey also sell the used to be stock upgrades now for the 12 volt.Boy do I feel cheated,but hey its a newbie company because newbies only buy it!Don't say any of that blah blah about "its not the marker,but the person behind it"Its both!If you give an Angel to a newbie he'll probably shoot himself in the foot!Give a Talon to a pro and he'll suck because of his marker!SO for all you newbies that are packing BE or ***** Eagle,HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAhAHAHAHAH!

[HaZrD Boy 00]

Originally posted by green_kat


coupla questions...

your comment about tippmann air supplies, tippmanns run off of normal air tanks, brass eagle guns run off of 12 grams, not only is it more expensive in the long run but you get 15-20 shots per 12 gram. Now who is out of air?

As for spyders freezing up, Never happened to me, my friend, my other friend. I rapid fire like a mad-man, it never freezes. Now take brass eagles, they don't fire fast enough to freeze. spyders might get about 8 bps if they are lucky. Brass eagles get about 5 spb, or second per ball. see the difference. and how do you cover fire if you don't fire that fast, or far, or accurately, or at all?

Money left over to lead lives? they average 9 year old could afford a spyder comapct after any major holiday or birthday. and then they could choose to play rec with a compact or trade up or upgrade.

and if you hit the dirt with a talon, chances are it will break.

and most of the people who play with brass eagles are generally newbies (wrry to any one out there who i may have offended) so they generally aren't
gung ho ruffians.

:P


You sir, are a ****in Moron. Wow a talon and a blade run off of 12 gram.... and you can still get 50 shots. No other BE gun runs off a 12 gram i have an avenger and a 20 oz and i also own a model 98 custom and a spyder compact, I would much rather use my avenger than both of them. They are good but the avenger is better for the price.

[green_kat]

Originally posted by HaZrD Boy 00



You sir, are a ****in Moron. Wow a talon and a blade run off of 12 gram.... and you can still get 50 shots. No other BE gun runs off a 12 gram i have an avenger and a 20 oz and i also own a model 98 custom and a spyder compact, I would much rather use my avenger than both of them. They are good but the avenger is better for the price.

i was merely stating that none of your former commetn was true, tippmanns do not run out of air any more than your avenger does ( i still dislike BE)
and theat spyders do not freeze. also if you use an avenger good for you, stick up for your gun. i was merely defending my gun, Spyder SE and although i don't own one i like tippmanns.

[coolcockerguy]

no matter if BE sucks or not it is kinda discrespectful to come in and just start bashing stuff. that said i personaly realize the BE guns or not the best, what do you expect? some of the most fun game I have had where every single person either has a talon or a blade and its a blast. for backyard bashing you can't beat them. if you saw someone playing in a big tourny and he was using a stingray and he was the star of their team and he used that gun just cause he felt like it was the best for him, why would you insist he change? player makes the gun gentlemen not the other way around.

[SilentTension]

How little of a life can you have.. to come into the BE forum and post about how it sucks?

[HaZrD Boy 00]

Originally posted by green_kat


i was merely stating that none of your former commetn was true, tippmanns do not run out of air any more than your avenger does ( i still dislike BE)
and theat spyders do not freeze. also if you use an avenger good for you, stick up for your gun. i was merely defending my gun, Spyder SE and although i don't own one i like tippmanns.



I understand why you would take up for your gun, I was not the one who bashed a tippmann or a spyder that was someone else. But now taht you said that, Im sure you can see why people get mad when people bash there markers. Especially when people have never used the guns they just bash them for the Hell of it. Now I DO own both a spyder and a tippmann and they are good guns. Thats why i had no reason to bash them.

[Killer Kat]

Turn this thread around boys, flaming isn't allowed regardless of what you believe! And unless you want to have Silent Knight very upset with you, I'd suggest that all guilty parties cleanup their acts and edit any profanity that has already been spewed forth!
So with that said Play Nice!
Oh by the way I like the B.E. pledge that Raptomatic made up
and agree with him whole heartedly! Brass Eagle has done more for the sport then any one of us as individuals has.

[jawpaul]

I used to think Brass Eagle was bad but then I found out that their marker's aren't newbie markers because they usually break quite often they are a "tinker" marker. I hated my rartor and would have sold it for $10 but, I bought a parts kit and fixed it then I added some upgrades to it that didn't cost anything but greatly improved it. Namely a rear velocity adjuster from a pirahna and my own homemade Stainless steel conecting pin. I can now out shoot my friends stingray 2 ice's and shoot pretty close to my friend's pro/carbines and a viper M1. And definately outshoot a PTX pistol.
I still would prefer a pro/carbine over any brass eagle though.

[noggins_1500]

Here is my opinion on BE's products

Blade- IGNORE THIS GUN ALTOGETHER

Talon- same price as the blade but better. It is the cheapest gun on the market and almost anyone can afford it. That is the reason i like this gun, also, they are durable. But the low velocity is what this guns MAJOR setback is.

Saber- The tigershark is a pump ray, the saber is a pump samurai. It is not a bad gun and much better than a talon. It is quite similar to a tigershark in the way it works. Not a bad begginners gun.

Tigershark- a half decent gun. Cant compare to the accuracy of a Maverick of SL-68 II but the accuracy is good enough. It is a little overpriced if you ask me, the maverick is only 40 canadian dollars more...

Samurai-ANOTHER GUN TO IGNORE. IF YOU WANT A CHEAP SEMI, GET THE STINGRAY II! THE SAMURAI IS REALLY BAD!!!!!!

Stingray II- The worlds slowest semi, but a semi just the same. BE's only reliable semi. If it were a little cheaper i would recomedn this to noobies, but a spyder compact is not much more and IS better, its just a fact. I own a stingray 1 myself and am satisfied with it.

Avenger- Another gun to ignore, it has 100% cheap cruddy parts. JUST BECAUSE IT IS METAL DOES NOT MEAN IT IS GOOD!!! its a brass eagle trick. Why get a spyder over an avenger you ask? because avengers have bad connecting pins and WILL break, it WILL happen to you, my friend has taken back 3!! BELEIVE ME I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT I HAVE USED THIS GUN AND IT WILL BREAK EVEN IF YOU TAKE REALLY GOOD CARE OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! then he got a tippmann 98 custom and is happy with it.

Raptor silver eagle/ extreme- Same problem as the raptor, the connecting pin breaks and the sear wears out GUARANTEED! this gun is yet another to ignore.

Genesis\revelation\surge- they are upgraded avengers, and what do avengers do? BREAK! these are in the same price range as spyders, piranhas, and tippamanns, which ANY experienced paintball player which has used a variety of guns will tell you to get instead. Remember, ALL BE\VL'S METAL GUNS HAVE BAD CONNECTING PINS AND SEARS!!!!!!!!!! THEY *WILL* BREAK EVENTUALLY!!!!!!!!

Rainmaker- Not too bad of a gun. Unreliable and hard to upgrade. If you want an electro get a better one for the same price ( Flash, black dragun,) or an autococker.


*** therefore, the only BE guns that i recommend are the Stingray II, Tigershark, Saber, and Talon. they are all really bad compared to other guns, but are usable and will last you a while. WHO WANTS TO PAY 100$ FOR SOMETHING THAT LASTS YOU A MONTH? I personally recomend a stingray over any of BE's metal guns because it does not have the bad conecting pin and sear of the stack tube models. some people say the the model 83 (zap gun) is better than the stingray, i will check this out.

*** NEVER buy a blade, avenger, raptor, or samurai! EVER!

* i would not suggest a rainmaker, but it is not half bad

Now, for the other stuff

BE paint- absolute CRAP! unfortunately, its all we can buy around here. If you can buy another type of paint, do so! It will shoot more accurately and will have less chance of breaking in the barrel. Why? you ask? because BE paint has thin shell, it is much more likely to break inside your gun. Also, the fill in BE's paint is strange and slimy, hard to get out of the gun, and it SMELLS!!!!

BE masks- nothin wrong with them that ive encountered.

Hoppers- 12v revvys are great and affordable, for the lower end markers, a VL 200 will do.

All in all, some of BE's cheap stuff is good for first timers\ rec ballers, and some of it is good for.... ahhh.... WASTEING MONEY!

[Raptomatic]

What's that sound like a fart????

That's what I hear every time I go to play at fields. After the game its:

"My spyder sputtered out"

or

"I froze up"

So don't tell me Spyders don't freeze up. It happens. And as for my raptor, I don't know how you people treat your markers but mine has worked perfectly for the last two years. No O-rings broke, I didn't "lose" my cocking knob (you'd have to be a complete retard) and the connecting pin doesn't spontaneously snap off. Regardless of what you might think, Raptors aren't made of cheap stuff. Look at the grain on the parts and compare them to the metalwork of an m98. They are extremely similar. The thing is, I bet your raptor was one of your first guns. If you are a newbie of course you won't have the experience to take care of a marker right away. Therefore, a tippmann is a really good choice. But if you know how to treat paintball equipment, show your raptors some respect. They will definitely surprise you.