Challenge

[Corrupted355]

I have a challenge for all you Tippmann owners. A while back, I was asked if I could take apart and reassemble my A-5, all while completely blindfolded. I surprised myself by being able to do it. Everything came apart: receiver, cyclone, E-grip, valve... anything that could come apart.

I laid out my tools, put on my blindfold, and one hour and thirty six minutes later, I had the exact same thing sitting in front of me that I'd started with. I challenge you to beat me.

As a disclaimer, I will take no responsibility for anything you do wrong because of your hampered visual acuity, including those trigger springs that like to fly off and hide under the entertainment unit. Please try not to hurt yourselves either. I do have one piece of knowledge for you, which I picked up during this little escapade: flathead screws are annoying when you can't see.

[bronze]

seriosuly dude? i think i can beat that with my 98c. ill try sometime next week. ill even make a video

edit: crap the valve also? screw that

[supermario98]

seriosuly dude? i think i can beat that with my 98c. ill try sometime next week. ill even make a video

edit: crap the valve also? screw that

??? what's that supposed to mean.. the valve comes it easily on the 98c.
Two allen screws..?

[Orpackrat]

??? what's that supposed to mean.. the valve comes it easily on the 98c.
Two allen screws..?

Thats just the powertube and the valve inside.

I believe its the entire valve (removing it from the powertube and disassembling it).

[supermario98]

Oh.. ok lol

[Corrupted355]

Yea, I want the cup seal sitting on the table.

I consider the A-5 and the 98 about equally difficult, because the A-5's easier to take apart, but it's also got a cyclone to disassemble.

[Orpackrat]

Yea, I want the cup seal sitting on the table.

I consider the A-5 and the 98 about equally difficult, because the A-5's easier to take apart, but it's also got a cyclone to disassemble.

I have the cyclone on my 98C.

When you say completly disassembled, do you also mean the pins holding cyclone pistion and ratchet together :confused:.

[Corrupted355]

Since you've got a cyclone on a 98, I'll let you get away with keeping the ratchet and rod together as one piece. You've got to deal with those trigger springs and that front sight that I don't. Although to be fair, the tombstone latch was a massive PITA; that thing alone took me ten minutes to get back on.

[Orpackrat]

Since you've got a cyclone on a 98, I'll let you get away with keeping the ratchet and rod together as one piece. You've got to deal with those trigger springs and that front sight that I don't. Although to be fair, the tombstone latch was a massive PITA; that thing alone took me ten minutes to get back on.

Thats fine but I have a way to easily secure the springs, especially the front sight one.

Hopefully I'll have the time to easily beat your record later this week when I'm not so tired from 10 hours of school bus duty.

[Corrupted355]

Just so you know, the springs have to come OUT. Anything removable has to come out and lay on the table. I look forward to your attempt, though.

[Orpackrat]

Just so you know, the springs have to come OUT. Anything removable has to come out and lay on the table. I look forward to your attempt, though.

Thats not a problem. I've been disassembling and assembling it for the last 7 years.

Chances are, I won't be able to do it on a table but on my bed and putting all the parts into a small bin in my lap. Should make it a little more difficult.

[bronze]

alrighty. i think i can take the challenge. every single peice disassembled blind folded. ill do it with my 98c.dont have a cyclone. valve and all ACT parts. ill see how long she takes.

[Corrupted355]

May I suggest not videotaping it? You may not want videographic evidence of that much swearing. I've been doing my A-5 for quite a few years too, but I was honestly surprised by how hard it actually was. Sure, you might know exactly how many turns of the screw it takes to tighten the main R/T bolt to line up the banjo fitting, but getting that screwdriver to find the slot in the flathead is going to require you to summon finesse that you didn't know you possessed.

But if you two are the only ones going to try, I'm going to be very disappointed in the new crop of Tippmann owners.

[Orpackrat]

It should not be too hard, I don't look at what I'm doing half the time since I'm usually watching a movie lol.

[bronze]

:laugh: I think ill be fine. i have a macroline on it. just takes a 1/8 for almost every bolt.

and yah i wont video tape it. dont make that much tiem to kill. i will be honest and tell u how much time it took

[Corrupted355]

Macroline or not: ASA's gotta come off, and in order to take the valve out, you're gonna need to pull that fitting out of there anyway. Macroline just adds a step for you while simultaneously adding another smallish part to the pile of stuff you've got to identify by feel.

And just so you guys know, assembly is probably gonna take at least twice as long as it did to tear everything down.

[scramzo]

how about with one contact in and not looking. I can take apart my custom pro--including the ak 7 kit and every part of the damn thing and reassemble in less than 2.5 mins. Did it about 20 times to find out what the prob was with the gun over the last week.

and ditto on the spring for the trigger group. dog picked it up and chewed on it while i was on all fours trying to locate.

[wolf16731]

took me 2 hours and 23 minutes to take apart my 98ACT with all the crap on there, did it just like how corrupted told us, and i now hate springs forever

[-Viper-]

I've always said to myself that I can take my A-5 apart blindfolded because I know it so well... but my valve is seriously a PITA.

When I find a good time, I will take your challenge.

[ICU117]

Gonna have to try that. Although I haven't disassembled an A5 in a while, and I don't think my friend will let me borrow his... My brother won't let me do it with his E98c. And I certainly can't do it blindfolded to my shocker.

[Curly Fry]

gave up at 2 hours and 22 minutes trying to get the shell back on because i had taken out all the parts to the e-grip and couldnt get it back in without pinching something.

i know, im disappointed in myself too, im surprised i didnt lose any parts though.

Whats weird is, after a COMPLETE teardown, my 98 custom shot its first ball at exactly 280fps even after taking out and putting back in the velocity screw. I know, im good. Yes, i did the valve and everything.

[supermario98]

gave up at 2 hours and 22 minutes trying to get the shell back on because i had taken out all the parts to the e-grip and couldnt get it back in without pinching something.

i know, im disappointed in myself too, im surprised i didnt lose any parts though.

Whats weird is, after a COMPLETE teardown, my 98 custom shot its first ball at exactly 280fps even after taking out and putting back in the velocity screw. I know, im good. Yes, i did the valve and everything.

Yeah i think if you converted your marker back to a mechanical before you started the challenge it would be more fair, most people's seem to be mechanical. And yeah putting the left receiver half on the e-grip in the 98 is the worst.. the first time i did it took me about 15 mins just for that.
So i would say another exclusion would be the e-grip and all it's parts.

[Orpackrat]

I did about a 90% teardown and assembly of a fairly basic 98 Custom in about 25 minutes.

[Corrupted355]

Yeah i think if you converted your marker back to a mechanical before you started the challenge it would be more fair, most people's seem to be mechanical. And yeah putting the left receiver half on the e-grip in the 98 is the worst.. the first time i did it took me about 15 mins just for that.
So i would say another exclusion would be the e-grip and all it's parts.

I did my A-5 with the E-grip in, and I even had the fittings in for the R/T. Taking stuff off beforehand is cheating.

[-Viper-]

I'll just end this by doing it to my G3

I'll pwn everyone, and that'll be then end.

win

[Corrupted355]

But then I'd do the Maverick, and I'd win again. Why do you think I put this in the Tippmann forum?

[Crossfire426]

Blindfolded, 1 hour 30 mins, all parts dissassembled and then reassembled is very impressive... i definitely can't do that...

i agree... the springs are the worst parts... =p

must say... gj =p

[hummerking]

try doing it in a moving car at 2 am drunk and not being able to turn the interior lights on :laugh: i swapped out 2 98 valves into JCS powertubes and changed the ratchet on a A5. all 3 guns were dissembled, cleaned, repaired and reassembled in the 1.5 hour long ride from the bar to the motel were were bunking at before the 72 hour scenario game. i also changed the hammer on a spyder, but that doesn't count :P

[-Viper-]

But then I'd do the Maverick, and I'd win again. Why do you think I put this in the Tippmann forum?
Tippmann marker in the Tippmann forum?

...never could figure that out.

[Corrupted355]

try doing it in a moving car at 2 am drunk and not being able to turn the interior lights on :laugh: i swapped out 2 98 valves into JCS powertubes and changed the ratchet on a A5. all 3 guns were dissembled, cleaned, repaired and reassembled in the 1.5 hour long ride from the bar to the motel were were bunking at before the 72 hour scenario game. i also changed the hammer on a spyder, but that doesn't count :P

I think I can one-up (or at least tie) you on that one. Replace the valve o-ring in an A-5 with a spare bottle o-ring during the final battle of a scenario while the building you're in is under siege, and do it in less than two minutes. If I hadn't gotten that marker back together when I did, I'd have been in a world of hurt.

[Curly Fry]

how bout swapping out a battery mid game with my 98 e-grip? used a bunker for a table.

[Corrupted355]

Pretty good, but we're getting off topic here. I still haven't seen anyone post a time. C'mon, people, it's not THAT hard.

[Curly Fry]

i posted my failed time

[Corrupted355]

Okay, let me rephrase: I still haven't seen any posted times from anyone with any kind of recognizable skill.


:D

[hummerking]

Okay, let me rephrase: I still haven't seen any posted times from anyone with any kind of recognizable skill.


:D


ummmmmm 1.5 hr 3 guns and the o rings fall out of the A5 all the time lol :laugh: and the maverick is 4 parts held together with thumbscrews :P

[Corrupted355]

ummmmmm 1.5 hr 3 guns Dark doesn't mean blindfolded. Granted, I'll give you props for being inebriated and in a moving vehicle, but your time is invalid in this particular challenge. When we do the "drunk, tired, and low visibility in a moving vehicle" challenge, you'll be the first recorded time.
the o rings fall out of the A5 all the time lol :laugh: I didn't pop out the one next to the tombstone, I blew out the one around the cupseal end of the valve, inside the 'tube, in the middle of play.
the maverick is 4 parts held together with thumbscrews :PViper was gonna cheat and enter his G3 in the contest, so I threatened to retaliate with a Maverick.

[hummerking]

isnt the G3 an angel? or am i lost again?

[Corrupted355]

Dangerous Power G3. Just came out.
http://www.dangerouspower.com/

[hummerking]

Dangerous Power G3. Just came out.
http://www.dangerouspower.com/

****in spaceguns

[supermario98]

I'll just end this by doing it to my G3

I'll pwn everyone, and that'll be then end.

win

Sweet, got some pics of it? posted somewhere? link it..
I hope they start making it in more colors, black and red is too dull already in paintballing.. I'm waiting for an olive one.
Sorry for offtopic to corrupted

[Corrupted355]

****in spaceguns
Yeah, E-Cocker is about as high tech as I'll go. They built stuff better back before everything had batteries in it. Although, I do have a Cocker that's got a Warp on it. All told, that thing takes a total of up to five nine-volts to operate. But it looks bionic and I love it.

[hummerking]

i had a run with spaceguns starting with an super handbuilt E-cocker, maxed out ion, mini, angel, and finished with a excalibur.

[Corrupted355]

... excalibur...
Now THAT I wouldn't mind getting my hands on. The rest of that list just doesn't turn my switch. Give me a Sterling or a Mag any day.

[hummerking]

Now THAT I wouldn't mind getting my hands on. The rest of that list just doesn't turn my switch. Give me a Sterling or a Mag any day.

lol i used it in one game and traded it for the mintish 96 maxima im driving now. i used that gun on 3 occasions to pick up chicks :P

[Curly Fry]

Okay, let me rephrase: I still haven't seen any posted times from anyone with any kind of recognizable skill.


:D

i would have some witty comeback in here, but frankly, hes right

[Corrupted355]

lol i used it in one game and traded it for the mintish 96 maxima im driving now. i used that gun on 3 occasions to pick up chicks :P
You suck for abusing that marker's power. That being said, I'm still jealous.

i would have some witty comeback in here, but frankly, hes right
You, my friend, get a cookie for being a good sport.


http://www.zuzzys.com/images/cookies.jpg

[hummerking]

You suck for abusing that marker's power. That being said, I'm still jealous.


You, my friend, get a cookie for being a good sport.


http://www.zuzzys.com/images/cookies.jpg

the running joke was for a fat lazy guy i had the sexiest truck, guns and tail :D and good luck on the cookies im still waiting for mine:(

[Corrupted355]

You'll get your cookie when you beat my time. How's that?

[-Viper-]

Sweet, got some pics of it? posted somewhere? link it..
I hope they start making it in more colors, black and red is too dull already in paintballing.. I'm waiting for an olive one.
Sorry for offtopic to corrupted
Here are some pics and videos of my G3. Please don't post in the thread on pbnation, it's a dead thread and we don't want it upped again:

Pics
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2695124

Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_BIEpy5R04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z649QLEd8iQ



Anyway, back on topic. In order to complete this challenege, do I have to take my reg. apart too? Because that thing is a PITA. Then I have to completely disassemble the Cyclone and valve?

[Curly Fry]

Here are some pics and videos of my G3. Please don't post in the thread on pbnation, it's a dead thread and we don't want it upped again:

Pics
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2695124

Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_BIEpy5R04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z649QLEd8iQ



Anyway, back on topic. In order to complete this challenege, do I have to take my reg. apart too? Because that thing is a PITA. Then I have to completely disassemble the Cyclone and valve?

ya skeleton

[Corrupted355]

Anyway, back on topic. In order to complete this challenege, do I have to take my reg. apart too? Because that thing is a PITA. Then I have to completely disassemble the Cyclone and valve?
I didn't take my Stabilizer apart, so no. Just take it off the gun. Valve and cyclone have to come apart, but you can keep the cyclone's rod and ratchet together as one piece.

Also, someone needs to buy you a burger.

[hummerking]

ya skeletor


fixed it goober.

how much do those G3s run? looks pretty schnazzy.

[-Viper-]

:( I do eat a lot...

I got mine for $419.99 + tax = $450. I got it for myself as a graduation present.

I've already replaced the trigger spring with magents. Then tomorrow I am going to make new grips out of some plexiglass stuff so that it is kind of see through. Should be neat.

Som guy did it on PbN and it looks amazing.


( I'm 6'2" 155lbs )

[Corrupted355]

... I am going to make new grips out of some plexiglass stuff so that it is kind of see through. Should be neat.
That's a good idea. I'm gonna have to try that on a Cocker.
( I'm 6'2" 155lbs )
Wow, dude. I'm 6'3" 235. Skin and bones, I'm 220. How is it possible you weigh so little?

[-Viper-]

That's a good idea. I'm gonna have to try that on a Cocker.

Wow, dude. I'm 6'3" 235. Skin and bones, I'm 220. How is it possible you weigh so little?
Yea, I made the grips... they suck. All black just doesn't look good. Might try a different color.

I don't know how it's possible...

[ICU117]

I convinced my friend to let me try to do it with his A5. 2 and a quarter hours into I had everything back in except the egrip and the bolt assembly. (I figured it'd be easier to slide it through the back at the end) Then my friends dog takes the bolt and everything and runs off... Not to mention I couldn't picture how the grip went back in. Stupid dog.

[Curly Fry]

yea, the e-grip is probably the hardest part

[Orpackrat]

Wow, dude. I'm 6'3" 235. Skin and bones, I'm 220. How is it possible you weigh so little?

I'm about 6'4" and 225lbs (I've lost about 35lbs and have 25 more to go)

My younger brother is about 1/4" taller than me but only weighs 170-180 I think.

[Curly Fry]

5'10" ~180lbs

[-Viper-]

Then my friends dog takes the bolt and everything and runs off... Not to mention I couldn't picture how the grip went back in. Stupid dog.
I lol'd

[Corrupted355]

I convinced my friend to let me try to do it with his A5. 2 and a quarter hours into I had everything back in except the egrip and the bolt assembly. (I figured it'd be easier to slide it through the back at the end) Then my friends dog takes the bolt and everything and runs off... Not to mention I couldn't picture how the grip went back in. Stupid dog.
I've got to admit, that's pretty good for a marker that's not, technically, yours.

So who got to go searching through poo for that bolt?

I'm about 6'4" and 225lbs (I've lost about 35lbs and have 25 more to go)

My younger brother is about 1/4" taller than me but only weighs 170-180 I think.
Y'all paintballers are some scrawny people. I haven't been 200lbs since I was sixteen.

[-Viper-]

It's sometimes good to be this skinny. When I turn sideways, nobody can hit me.










:dodgy:

[ICU117]

I had an A5 for 2 years, sold it last fall, but yea, my friend ran after him before he ate the thing, but I heard the commotion of him going for it so I took the bandanna off. Decided it'd be shenanigans if I then put it back on and kept going, cause i saw the grip and such.

[Curly Fry]

I've got to admit, that's pretty good for a marker that's not, technically, yours.

So who got to go searching through poo for that bolt?


Y'all paintballers are some scrawny people. I haven't been 200lbs since I was sixteen.

Maybe y'all Nuclear Operators are some large people?

[Corrupted355]

Not really. We've got this tiny little girl working with us who probably doesn't weight 100 lbs soaking wet. And she's an effin good operator. There's stuff she needs help doing, but then there's stuff I can't do on my own either, so it's all good.

[hummerking]

im gonna just say im 5'10" and so far weigh the most hahahaha i still have no problem using a tree less that 5 inches wide for a wiley bunker lol i look like tom arnold in "true lies" when he uses the light pole for cover when the guy shoots the AK at him

[Corrupted355]

It's the company you keep. Jacky D and Jimmy B have not been good to you, apparently.

[hummerking]

It's the company you keep. Jacky D and Jimmy B have not been good to you, apparently.


no, they are awesome. its the clown, king and colonel that are killing me :laugh: how the hell does Colonel supposed to sound like kernal?

[Corrupted355]

It's a French word. They don't pronounce half the letters that they use, and the other half they pronounce wrong.

[Curly Fry]

Damn french

[wolf16731]

my recuiter just wieghed me in at 189 lbs and i think i'm 5'11... could be 6' though.....

[Corrupted355]

Is no one else going to take the challenge? So far, Curly and ICU are the only one's to attempt. At this rate, I'm about to allow Hummerking's cheating entry.

[ICU117]

seriously, i don't even own a tippmann anymore and I had to give it a try. I mean I have a custom pro in my possession, but it isn't mine.

[Corrupted355]

What I wanna know is why Orpackrat hasn't tried yet...

[Curly Fry]

cause he dont got the skillz that killz

im sure with over 1,000,000 shots through his marker he'd know how to at-least disassemble it blind folded.

[Scenario]

i took your challenge this morning, it took me almost 3 hours, some springs went flying, but i found them, im going to re-try this challenge again at the end of the week!

[Curly Fry]

did you find those springs blind-folded?

[hummerking]

What I wanna know is why Orpackrat hasn't tried yet...

he probly practicing blindfolded hanging upside down ala major payne :laugh:


i did my dads A5 this morning because i had to change the main spring :mad: and i got it all apart and back together in just under an hourr that includes pulling all the r/t fitting out and the piston assembly out of the grip and greasing the r/t and cyclone and oiling the gun. FYI i was running on a hangover and no ac in 90* degree humid heat :D two things i am not built to deal with, heat mostly lol.

[Corrupted355]

he probly practicing blindfolded hanging upside down ala major payne :laugh:


i did my dads A5 this morning because i had to change the main spring :mad: and i got it all apart and back together in just under an hourr that includes pulling all the r/t fitting out and the piston assembly out of the grip and greasing the r/t and cyclone and oiling the gun. FYI i was running on a hangover and no ac in 90* degree humid heat :D two things i am not built to deal with, heat mostly lol.Valve, Cyclone and all? That's impressive, man. Congrats on being the current frontrunner. Current best time: "just under" an hour.

[hummerking]

Valve, Cyclone and all? That's impressive, man. Congrats on being the current frontrunner. Current best time: "just under" an hour.

valve and all, i had never taken that valve apart and i could feel how dirty it was lol. it was just over 58 minutes.

[-Viper-]

I will attempt it later today...

but I did add the LPK so I will see if this affects me in any way.

[Corrupted355]

Well, in an attempt to beat Hummerking, I tried again. Unfortunately, I came shy of his 58 minute mark with a time of 67 minutes and change. I don't think I can do it any faster than that without loosing parts.

[Curly Fry]

i would give you a hard time about trying again, but i did too, and it was even worse, lost my sear spring:(

[hummerking]

Well, in an attempt to beat Hummerking, I tried again. Unfortunately, I came shy of his 58 minute mark with a time of 67 minutes and change. I don't think I can do it any faster than that without loosing parts.

id try now agaian but my fingers are just about numb......... :goody: soco and gingerale i need not say anymore

[Scenario]

did you find those springs blind-folded?

no i a buddy handed them to me! im not chris angel

i tried again today and got 2 hours flat

[Corrupted355]

id try now agaian but my fingers are just about numb......... :goody: soco and gingerale i need not say anymore
Your liver must have about as much "experience" as one from a circus carnie.