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g00se
03-12-2002, 03:14 AM
Well i was looking to buy a nitrogen tank for around like 100,
Ya so i looked at some tanks and it said it would shoot like 500 shots,
then i looked at some20 dollar C02 tanks and it said they would shoot like 1000.
Which ones the best
Plz explain since i am a newbie

jero000
03-12-2002, 03:30 AM
nitro is more consitan...... i recommand nitro but it depends what ur playing... for a noob i dont think u will be firing 500+ shots a game so i would go for the nitro...

thats just my 2 cents.

Gibralter
03-12-2002, 05:11 AM
Ya, i just upgraded from CO2 to nitro, and you can tell the difference. It is more consistant, not as much shoot down (if you have a tank with a high recharge rate), My shots were in a little bit tighter groupings. I thing though, is the availiablity of the HPA refills in your area. If your fields don't have the capability to refill, you need to get a scuba tank adapter and a scuba tank. If you are new though, i don't think you should sink that much money in just yet.

The tank i got was $119 w/ tank cover. It was a crossfire 68/3000 steel stub.

P.S. I have gotton way more than 500 shots from my stub. I am using my stock spyder. I would venture a guess (my first time refilling and i wasn't paying to closesly to how many shots i let off :finger: ) of 600 on upwards of 750ish.

I'll sumarize: I like nitro.

firemoth
03-12-2002, 11:24 AM
I like CO2. It isn't expensive, the tanks are smaller, lighter, give more shots, and with some right equipment, you can shoot pretty consistently. Get nitro if you really want it, but make sure your store or field can fill it.

elTwitcho
03-12-2002, 11:39 AM
The tanks are cheaper and smaller for CO2, but they are substantially heavier than any nitro tanks.

orryn
03-12-2002, 02:15 PM
Another advantage of nitro is it doesn't liquify (you can play in the winter). Btw, how much heavier is a steel nitro tank compared to a fiber one? I wanna go nitro someday but I don't know if I want to spend 200 on a tank, while I can spend about 100.

Gibralter
03-12-2002, 03:00 PM
The steel tanks are lighter, can take more abuse (can have dings), and need to be hydroed only every 5 years.

AK47
03-12-2002, 04:24 PM
All tanks need to be hydrotested, if you got the money for a nitro, than get one its better than CO2. I hate always having to keep my gun pointed up so I don't get Liqiud CO2 in the gun. Makes you shoot hot.

orryn
03-12-2002, 04:28 PM
steel tanks are light?!? really?

elTwitcho
03-12-2002, 04:44 PM
No steal tanks are certainly not lighter. Fiber weighs alot less than steel does

orryn
03-12-2002, 04:47 PM
that's what I thought.

xXhappyAznXx
03-12-2002, 04:52 PM
im a newbie
hydro tested!?
for what?
what happens if i dont
where do i get it tested
someone explain please

elTwitcho
03-12-2002, 04:57 PM
Hydrotesting refers to tests they perform on your tank to make sure it can withstand the pressures of regular use without failing. If you don't hydro your tank, at best the field will not fill your tank for you, and in the worst case scenario your tank will explode and kill you

orryn
03-12-2002, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by xXhappyAznXx
im a newbie
hydro tested!?
for what?
what happens if i dont
where do i get it tested
someone explain please

The hydrotest is to make sure that your tank is still safe. Remember, there is a lot of pressure inside the tanks...more than in CO2. I'm not actually sure where you can get it test, as I do not own a tank, but I am pretty sure if you take it to your local pb shop they can help you out.

Gibralter
03-12-2002, 05:16 PM
I held the fiber tank and the steel tank, and the steel was lighter. I have also heard others mention that the steel tank was lighter.

elTwitcho
03-12-2002, 05:34 PM
Never in my life have I seen a steel tank lighter than a Fiber tank, since... well since they just are lighter. Was it the same model tank (as in same reg)?

Deep Sixx
03-12-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Gibralter
The steel tanks are lighter, can take more abuse (can have dings), and need to be hydroed only every 5 years.

Uhh... no. Wrong on both counts. Steel tanks are much heavier than fibre. No tank will pass a hydro test with any physical damage. You cannot even get a tank filled if it has damage to the body. Also, some newer fibre tanks have a 5 year hydo test period... check your DOT code.

D6

Gibralter
03-12-2002, 08:12 PM
Man, i don't know. Oh, wait, the steel tank that i held was a crossfire stub compared to a fiber tank. That could be it. I also didn't know about the 5 year fiber tank hydro.

D6: The way the steel tank was explained to me was that it was more durable than the fiber wrap. Could be my prob.

But on the weight, the steel was less than the fiber.

Deep Sixx
03-12-2002, 08:25 PM
I don't know about "durable", but comparing 2 tanks of the same size and capacity, one steel, one fibre... the fibre one will be lighter.

No tank, steel or fibre should be subjected to ANY sort of abuse. These tanks are under extremely high pressures and are highly dangerous if not treated properly. They can, will and do explode... killing you as well as people around you. Never fill or use any tank that has any kind of physical damage, be it dents, deep scratches, unraveling fibres or cracks. Always use a tank cover and be careful with them.

D6

Gibralter
03-12-2002, 08:32 PM
I don't know anymore :confused:. I got twitch and D6 telling me one thing. Maybe i got mixed up :confused: Oh, well.

About the tanks. I am a scuba diver and have heard some pretty interesting stories of what a HPA tank can do. Almost had one go out on us on a dive. luckily, the tank was empty when the first stage was knocked off :eek: I almost wet myself when it fell.

Deep Sixx
03-12-2002, 08:45 PM
A ruptured SCUBA tank will knock a freight locomotive off it's tracks. I've seen them knock out 3 foot thick concrete walls. It's simple... don't screw with them.

D6

elTwitcho
03-12-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Gibralter
I don't know anymore :confused:. I got twitch and D6 telling me one thing. Maybe i got mixed up :confused: Oh, well.

About the tanks. I am a scuba diver and have heard some pretty interesting stories of what a HPA tank can do. Almost had one go out on us on a dive. luckily, the tank was empty when the first stage was knocked off :eek: I almost wet myself when it fell.

If the Fiber tank he had somehow weighed more than the steel tank it's because it had a heavy regulator on it (probably a nitroduck). Plain and simple, no discussion even possible, a fiber tank weighs less than a steel tank. Just as Carbon fiber weighs less than steel. Think about it...

Gibralter
03-13-2002, 04:55 AM
Well that could have been the case w/ the heavier reg. What bugs me is that i held them. Well and that is the funny thing. I was looking around at some papers the guy wrote on, and it said the steel tank was less then the fiber. Maybe he was just refering to the individual set infront of me, and i was takeing it was fact for all. Oh, well...

Now i feel im :crazy:

Batman
03-14-2002, 12:28 PM
Go to www.paintballgear.com , N2 tanks, PMI and there is 1 for like 70 i think