A5 Cyclone soup problem

[grownmcgavin]

Hey guys. I was doing some maint and upgrades on my a5 and now i'm getting a lot of chops in my cyclone. Because i was stupid and did mulitple changes without testing im having a hard time narrowing down the problem. Here is my first guess. I was told that the Dye silicon grease you can get at any store is good to use on the cyclone internals. But it seems to me it may be slowing it down and actualy causing more friction. Anyone know if this is true?

Thanks.

[BigTom21]

make sure you didn't over tighten the screws in the bottom plate so much they are coming through in the the cyclone catch...

also make sure you replaced the spring inside the cyclone houseing...

also what parts did you get to upgarade it?

[grownmcgavin]

Which spring are you talking about? I wasn't aware any springs need to be replaced. I did try shortening the spring inside the rathchet piece.

The Relevant upgrades I have are..

TechT :
Squishies (had the problem with chopped balls before i got the squishies)
Vortex
Lightning Rod
QEPH

Low Pressure Kit
I use HPA, tank is set at 800 and it worked fine with no chops before.


I tried sanding the piece of the a5 that goes inside the cyclone to make it smoother, also i have tried loosening the bottom plate every position from almost falling off loose to very tight.

I'm getting plenty of air flow through the banjos and micro line into the cyclone as well.

[Corrupted355]

With the LPK, you should be using the larger 1/8" line to the cyclone, if I'm not mistaken. Even with all the upgrades to your cyclone, it needs either enough pressure or enough airflow. The smaller lines were okay before you put the LPK on because the gun was feeding it enough pressure. But with the LPK installed, you need the increased flow of the 1/8" lines.

What's your operating pressure? You said that your tank is outputting 800, but you also said you had a Low Pressure Kit, which is kinda confusing.

EDIT:
The type of paint you're using makes a huge difference too. A-5's can't really shoot that super-brittle tournament paint cuz that stuff breaks on the first semi-hard surface it comes in contact with. On an A-5, that hard surface usually turns out to be the aluminum feeding tang that sticks into the cyclone. If your paint doesn't pass a six foot drop test onto concrete, you don't want to put it in your cyclone.

Also, I don't know anything about the DYE lube, so I can't say as to what it's doing to you. However, I can indeed vouch for the stuff that Tech-T sells. Gun Sav is some of the smoothest, slickest, stay-where-you-put-it-est lubricant I've found. I bought two tubs of it a year ago, and I'm still only about halfway through the first one. And I use it on my entire arsenal, as well as any markers that pour into my repair station. It's so slick that, quite literally, a little dab'll do ya. I have to admit that the G3 is going through a lot more of it, but that's a spoolie anyway. The Cockers and the Tippmanns hardly use any.

[grownmcgavin]

operating around 450psi right now. I've tried both the 1/8 and 1/16 hoses on the cyclone, but i will go back and check the orings on the banjo...as well as make sure it is lined up with the hole on the hose....i know its not supposed to matter with the banjo, but i heard some people say it fixed problems. I'll also give the tech T lube a shot....and double check the paints i've been using.

[FlamingoChavez]

Where do you live? Its pretty F'in cold out right now... that could be your problem.

[Corrupted355]

Where do you live? Its pretty F'in cold out right now... that could be your problem.
Good point. One that I often fail to remember. I can't imagine not being able to play year 'round. I'd go crazy. ...er.

[tonycon]

you may want to take a look at this...cleared up all of my chops!

http://www.x7og.net/cyclone-feed-system/2964-cyclone-chopping-balls-fix.html#post37405