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beaver_fever
04-30-2009, 08:45 AM
Is the difference in weight between the old style a5s and the newer a5s due to the type of material the receivers are made from or is it due to the newer style of internals?

Corrupted355
04-30-2009, 10:35 PM
I was unaware that there was any distinction between "old" A-5's and "new" A-5's. Would you care to elaborate so that I might better assist?

beaver_fever
05-04-2009, 07:16 PM
My a5 is rather old, I think I got it around 2001. A friend just got a new a5, probably 6 months old or so and it weighs quite a bit less than mine does. My a5 has the smooth, shiny finish and my rear bolt is solid, no plastic insert. My friend's a5 has a rougher, duller finish and his rear bolt has a plastic plug in it. We both have pretty much the same cosmetic add ons, in fact he has more. What's the deal or is the difference just in my head?

Orpackrat
05-04-2009, 08:16 PM
The older ones were built better, higher quality, less mass production and cost cutting.

Corrupted355
05-05-2009, 12:07 PM
Like Packrat said, there are a bunch of tiny changes in geometry and material thickness that can be attributed to trying to cut production costs. The markers will work just as well, but I don't know if they still maintain the "you can run over it with a truck" quality that they used to have.

NecroticSoldier
05-05-2009, 02:20 PM
awww mann :/// thats sad to hear about my a-5!

XRidgelinerX
05-06-2009, 06:47 AM
Man up! How much difference in weight can there be? A few ounces?

Lenny17
05-06-2009, 07:20 AM
I dunno if I agree with that - it doesn't matter how strong you are, a heavier marker will fatigue you faster.

I also don't see a reason to carry more weight than necessary - it slows you down, and that extra second it takes for you to reach a bunker might mean the difference between being eliminated and getting there safe.

Orpackrat
05-06-2009, 09:50 AM
I dunno if I agree with that - it doesn't matter how strong you are, a heavier marker will fatigue you faster.

I also don't see a reason to carry more weight than necessary - it slows you down, and that extra second it takes for you to reach a bunker might mean the difference between being eliminated and getting there safe.

Not if your used to the weight. I'm a bit of a big guy, all my gear, including my 98 and its little 48oz Co2 tanks is rather heavy to most people. Personally, whether I was to only run a pistol or my entire setup, it does not slow me down or tire me faster.

I've never had a problem getting to that extra bunker fast enough, the far majority of the time I can just walk to it and I usually don't have to take cover behind one. But then it also depends on your style of play.

XRidgelinerX
05-06-2009, 10:32 AM
I'm with you Orpakrat. I'm an old guy. If I want to shed some playing weight I should look at dieting to lose 15 lbs not modifying or replacing my marker to eliminate a few ounces! :laugh:

Orpackrat
05-06-2009, 10:51 AM
I'm with you Orpakrat. I'm an old guy. If I want to shed some playing weight I should look at dieting to lose 15 lbs not modifying or replacing my marker to eliminate a few ounces! :laugh:

I still have 30lbs to go but it will be another 3 years before its off :D.

I add and remove weight from my 98C all the time, it just depends on the type of game being played. I've had my 98C weighing in at over 22lbs alone in the past. Improvements in the technology for some of the mods has lessened the weight but even a 20lb gun still feels light.

I'm a bit of a Heavy Gunner too.

Lenny17
05-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Heh, I still have that extra 15 up front - it does get quite me a few bounces! :laugh:

And I suppose weight in woodsball isn't as crucial either. I do tend to walk a lot between bunkers. But in the times I've played speedball, you do need to be able to run, and being able to swing your marker around faster can make a difference.

Corrupted355
05-06-2009, 03:06 PM
I'm feelin an extra twenty pounds in the spare tire too. If having a heavier payload helps to shed it, I say bring it on.

My setup's pretty heavy when I deck it out for a scenario game too. With 400 rounds in the Pinokio, a Warp feed bolted to the side, and a full 88/45 screwed into the ASA, my Cocker weighs in at just under twenty pounds. And then I'll carry a case of paint in pods on my back. I have no problem carrying this setup around for every minute of a 24 hour game. It's all in how the weight is distributed. The way I have the marker set up, balance is perfect over the grip, so it's easy to whip around, and you hardly notice a case of paint when it's strapped evenly around your waist. Fully loaded for a weekend in the woods, I weigh almost fifty pound more than I do in my skivvies. But since everything's balanced right, mobility and endurance isn't hampered.

The only time I've ever seen the weight of someone's gear be detrimental is when one of my buddies was trying to haul our Double Trouble setup. This consists of apprximately 4,500 rounds strapped anywhere you can fit a pod, a scuba tank on your back, and two A-5's bolted together in the front. He weighed so much that he was literally sinking into the sand.