Best small gun?

[Boge]

I'm looking for a pretty small gun with no bottomline, and a forgrip. What is my best choice for between 0 and 150 bucks? Also, is it possible to buy an attachment grip for your gun?

[Splat Attack]

dude you hafta go for mine
I will cut you a great deal. C'mon I am the so desperate to sell it. check out my thread, It is an awesome deal, and you can use the tank as a foregrip. It is very small and light weight. Check it out daw, I won't rip you off either! I know what it feels like, and wouldn't do that. It is an alley cat with a 12 oz tank, a mask, and I could throw in a pack with the tubes for 150!! c'mon ive only had it for 3 months, and I have to sell it cause My Stupid Mother, well nevemind, my dad wants me to pay some money for this motorcycle. I can flex around, but this is the lowest im goin. the gun retails at 150.

[Splat Attack]

And if you really wanted the tank in the back, It would go there, and maybe you could get a foregrip, not gas through that screws into a co2 adapter, and use that. I dunno, but c'mon man, I am seriously itching to sell this. Oh and the buckle on the pack is broke, I will see what I can do to fix it.

[Skull]

Dude i know it sounds ***... but buy a stingray II ice, any color u want, then for like 5 bucks u can send in for a new grip frame, and i can post how to attach it to the for arm of the gun. If u buy the BE package and then buy the grip thats like $105, that leaves u $45 to get a nice mask and CO2 tank, or a decent aftermarket barrel if u want. Just givin an idea

[CRUCIATUS]

I would look into the kingman guns.. maybe a spyder compact for around $90. Or the regular spyder for around $149.

[Gogged ya]

get a compact. Dont get any of that BE ****

[Skull]

Heres a good pic of what it would look like....

http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/Skull042401163944mcray2.jpg

U can get rays now in clear, clear red, clear blue, and clear green. So theres alota color options for ya. I know what everyone sais bout rays, but the new ones r actually of high quality, and r sooo durable. U'll probably want to buy the package off the internet if u do decide on this, i really dont trust walmart with any of there pball products

[Splat Attack]

Dude trust me, my gun is sweet! I'm telling you it would outdo any stingray, even a stingray with an aftermarket barrel, and my package includes a pack and other extras. look into it bud!

[C_Giboney]

whereu get that grip at? for the stingray

[Skull]

THats not my stingray... but u can send to brass eagle for one with $5 or just buy a Stingray First Aid kit for $15, it has all the spare parts u'll need along with the grip frame.

[Boge]

Splat, I'm not interested in your gun. Thanks anyway. And I don't think you guys understand what I'm looking for. Something SMALL like a thundercat that will take a tank vertically. I want to hook up a 4 oz and have a really small setup. Some of you said a Spyder. I've had one, it was good, but it doesn't have a forgrip. I don't want a grip like on the stingray or the model 98. More like a prolite or carbine. Can I buy a forgrip like that that would slide over my barrel or something?

[elTwitcho]

Nobody other than the ones you listed make shrouds for their barrels. If you want small, what everyone has been suggesting is really good, or you can just turn the tank around if it's on a bottomline, it'd be small then too. What can i say, Tippman is the only company that made foregrips like that on their barrels, so you're out of luck

[Skull]

Here if i know u don't want the stingray but maybe some other guys gettin help from my useless info....

http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/Skull042501153725tomraytn.jpg

That bottom line is made by lapco to fit the stingrays grip frame, it's like $10 and if u place in on the for grip like in the picture it will really compact u'r gun

[Splat Attack]

yo dude, the alley cat and the thunder cat are the same thing!!!

[Boge]

I'm not interested in anything but a gun. And I don't want your alley cat.

[Ez8]

prolite or procarbine. They are great guns, nice and compact, and bulit to last. I think there better then 98's plus they both have foregrips and mount horiz(for air). it might want something better then a 4 oz i would say 9 oz its still nice and small but fits more air.

[axi0n]

I was going to suggest a PT Extreme.. But then I forgot you wanted a foregrip...

Good luck with that one.. Mostly everything that small is technically just a sidearm.. Any bigger and you are talking about a spyder clone...

Which you could shorten by having a ultra short barrel which will cost you accuracy and noise levels and probably some performance from not having full gas expansion...

So taking that into consideration, you have endless choices but nothing quite as short as you want that has a foregrip..

It depends though.. I have a Bruizer Outlaw and it is pretty short with the stock barrel if I run on remote.. Its got a godawful 10" barrel which is about the shortest I have seen and I use the regulator in front as my foregrip...
The coiled remote hose I have throws off the balance of the gun...

Believe it or not I prefer it with the 20oz C02 screwed directly into the bottom line and my 14" barrel.

Seems to work well enough for me...

Ax.

[Skull]

oic what u meant by forgrip... a i'm so slow, i thought u were talkin bout like the kinda forgrip they've got on shockers, u know like the ones without a bottom line attatchment. O well maybe my useless stingray info helped some newbie out there

[Boge]

With foregrip, I mean the grip for your left hand (if your right handed) like when you hold a rifle or an m-16. Your stingray info is really good though. I actually have quite a few friends that have stingrays. They would be interested in this info. Thanks. I'm pretty much looking for a gun like a spider with a forgrip. About that big.

[Dräko]

A micro mag is a real nice Small gun but its got a pretty hefty price. Besides if your gona get a mag get an rt or classic

[Skull]

Yo boge man i don't think u'r ignorant or nething, just postin this to make sure u know what splat means when he talks about his alleycat....

http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/Skull042701201800f6-tcatb-std.GIF

From what i can tell this gun fits the description of what ur lookin for perfectly

[Edited by Skull on 04-28-2001 at 11:24 AM]

[Splat Attack]

yeah dude you forgot the http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/Splat Attack042801091226alley cat.gif

and for some extra money you could get it to be like this

http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/Splat Attack042801091435thund-cats.gif
minus the paintjob

[Boge]

That gun is what I'm looking for but I don't think I want to spend 150. I am looking more at the 100 and less now. I just got a different gun so I don't want to spend much money. I also already have everything else. I'm just looking for the gun and the gun only.

[valkir]

I would go for the compact 2000.Its cheap,reliable VERY upgradable and you can use the tank as a foregrip.

[Edited by elTwitcho on 04-29-2001 at 07:09 PM]

[Splat Attack]

100 for the gun, I said that earlier. That saves you 50 bucks, and you get the same quality!

[ry_goody]

DUDE Get a PMI Titan, there great durable guns (all metal). You can get a plain ol' PMI Titan at http://www.actionvillage.com for $80. Or you could get the better Titan with a good barrel and foregrip for $130. I previously owned a titan and there good, quite accurate with a good barrel, I had a Smart Parts All American on mine and it had great accuracy (I would know since I also use cockers). However, due to there rarity among dealers they're not very popular and therefore there aren't many upgrades. But you can still get bottomline, barrel and stuff. Just that theres not alot of them, so its not very upgradable.