co2 problems

[yando]

ok, i took me and my friends co2 tanks to get them filled. i brought them to a little fishing/hunting shop. they fill co2, dont ask me why. anyway, the guy there was pretty much clueless. while he went to fill up the tanks, i just perused the fishing tackle. meanwhile, he didnt know to open the on/off valve on my tank, and handed me the tank saying it was broken. i pointed the valve out to him and then he filled the tank. next, he goes to fill my friends tank up. nothing seems to go wrong. i pay for the fills and leave. as im driving home, my friends tank begins to make a hissing so, i reach over, trying not to get in an accident, and inspect it. the co2 appears to be leaking out of that little nobby thing near the valve that says "3000" on it. i get home and hook up the hissing tank to my friends tigershark which he left at my house(hes not that into paintball and he paid $52 for the gun, the tank, 2 hoppers and a sight but laugh if you want). the only reason i was shooting his tigershark was because i wanted to test out the silencer i made for it. so i pop a few rounds at the target in my backyard and to my amazement the silencer works. oh yeah, and the entire time the tank is still hissing. when im done, i go to unscrew the tank but for some reason there is a lot of pressure between the tank and the gun, and i cant unscrew the tank. i just left it in my basement. this was like 4 hours ago and the tank is STILL hissing to this minute. im assuming that the dumb guy at the store overfilled the tank and it busted the valve. so my questions are 1)is the tank totally busted? and 2) is it safe to try to force the tank off the gun and risk having it explode or something, or should i just let the co2 leak out? wow i typed a lot!! if anybody wants the directions to make the silencer, pm or email me. its only costs a few bucks to make.

[elTwitcho]

CO2 tanks dont say 3000 on it. Only nitro tanks do. If you gave him a nitro tank and told him to fill it with CO2, then... let the tank leak itself empty, and hopefully you didnt destroy it, check the damage when the CO2 is gone, and never fill a nitro tank with CO2 again

[simon woodstock]

so is this your friends tank or yours? if your friend spent 52$ on that package i doubt he got a fully functional nitro tank for under 30. if you can get nitro tanks for 30$ give me a url.

[yando]

Originally posted by elTwitcho
CO2 tanks dont say 3000 on it. Only nitro tanks do. If you gave him a nitro tank and told him to fill it with CO2, then... let the tank leak itself empty, and hopefully you didnt destroy it, check the damage when the CO2 is gone, and never fill a nitro tank with CO2 again im not an idiot. im positive it isnt a nitro tank. it says in big yellow letters on the side "co2 capacity 12 ounces" its been filled with co2 before with no problems. this guy just didn't seem to know what he was doing and i think he overfilled it. i just wanted to know if the valve needs to be replaced or something like that.

[ptflyer]

sounds like he over filled it.....and as it warmed up(pressure incresses) and the "burst disk" blew.....and is leaking......need to have the "disk" replaced.....after they or you empty the tank....you can just take the tank off the marker.....you will always have pressure in between the tank and the marker..if the tank doesn't have an on/off valve....(as long as that little pin in the valve is pressed the marker will be "charged"...and it is pressed as you screw it onto the marker..)

[yando]

Originally posted by simon woodstock
so is this your friends tank or yours? if your friend spent 52$ on that package i doubt he got a fully functional nitro tank for under 30. if you can get nitro tanks for 30$ give me a url. its not a nitro tank!!! how could anyone mistake a nitro tank for a co2 tank??? he got the gun and 2 hoppers off of ebay for $20, the the 12oz co2 tank from a kid in school for $20, and a sight for $12 from someplace else. the gun works suprisingly well for a brass eagle.

[simon woodstock]

don't get mad, people are just trying to help. but whats the 3000 gauge thing? thats not on 12 oz tanks.(none that i've seen)

[Cheapdog]

On my friend's and my 20oz CO2 tank it says 3000 on the burst disk. We both have aluminum tanks. Maybe it isn't on the chrome-moly ones.

[yando]

Originally posted by simon woodstock
don't get mad, people are just trying to help. but whats the 3000 gauge thing? thats not on 12 oz tanks.(none that i've seen) sorry, for some reason i just got pissed off when elTwitcho automatically said that it doesnt say 3000 and assumed that it was a nitro tank and tells me "...never fill a nitro tank with co2 again" anyway, its not a guage, its the burst disk(like cheapdog said) and it has a "3000" engraved on it. sorry again.

[elTwitcho]

Well then if it's a burst disk, you shouldnt have said it was on a part of the valve, because that would imply it was a 3000 psi capacity tank, which CO2 tanks are not, and only nitro tanks are. You got angry and said "How could anyone mistake a nitro tank for a CO2 tank" but hey, what you described was a nitro tank, so what were we supposed to do? My telepathy has been rusty the past few weeks, so it must be my bad

[yando]

Originally posted by elTwitcho
Well then if it's a burst disk, you shouldnt have said it was on a part of the valve, because that would imply it was a 3000 psi capacity tank, which CO2 tanks are not, and only nitro tanks are. You got angry and said "How could anyone mistake a nitro tank for a CO2 tank" but hey, what you described was a nitro tank, so what were we supposed to do? My telepathy has been rusty the past few weeks, so it must be my bad when i said valve, i meant that whole pin valve/brass area. but no point in debating it anymore. no hard feelings.

[Richy_C]

hey, twitcho, send this my way

[elTwitcho]

No prob yando, dont even worry about it

[Intruder]

your burst disk, or whatever it's called probably ruptured. If it did you'll have to buy another one. You probably have to let all the c02 run out of the tank. You should go back and give that guy hell.

[yando]

Originally posted by Intruder
your burst disk, or whatever it's called probably ruptured. If it did you'll have to buy another one. You probably have to let all the c02 run out of the tank. You should go back and give that guy hell. yeah, i went back to him and since the store doesnt really carry anything that has to do with paintball(except co2 fills), he said that he couldnt do anything about it.

[Skull]

I'm probably really late on this remark, but if it's over filled, then if u can, put the entire unit gun and CO2 into a freezer for about 3-4 hrs. This happened to me the 1st time i got the tank refilled on my piranha... by putting it in a freezer it'll cause the CO2 to compress intead of expand, this should relieve the pressure long enough for u to get the tank off the gun.

[yando]

Originally posted by Skull
I'm probably really late on this remark, but if it's over filled, then if u can, put the entire unit gun and CO2 into a freezer for about 3-4 hrs. This happened to me the 1st time i got the tank refilled on my piranha... by putting it in a freezer it'll cause the CO2 to compress intead of expand, this should relieve the pressure long enough for u to get the tank off the gun. thanks for the advice but i just decided to let all the co2 leak out. i left it in my basement overnight and when i came home from school the next day, it was still leaking. so to empty the tank i just shot about 400 proballs at some targets i have setup in my backyard. they had been sitting in my closet for like 3 months and were gettin kinda old.

[martlet1]

Ok, I have to deal with this all the time. The dude just totally overfilled your tank. The reason it didn't leak until you got in the car, is because the gas expanded as it warmed up, then caused pressure to build until it found the weak spot in the tank system.
The "burst disk" can be replaced at any paintball store for about 5 bucks. (we do at least 3 a day in the winter time) The only problem is when you finally unscrew your tank again it won't hold pressure on the next fill (unless your the luckiest mf in the world.) The disk isn't totally gone, but it is probably warped REALLY good now.
Ive heard about putting your gun in the freezer too, but be careful, because if any liquified co2 is in your gun at all it will freeze and warp your internals, especially your o-rings. BE CAREFUL. At 40 degrees co2 is a liquid btw.


good luck yando. :)

[yando]

Originally posted by martlet1
Ok, I have to deal with this all the time. The dude just totally overfilled your tank. The reason it didn't leak until you got in the car, is because the gas expanded as it warmed up, then caused pressure to build until it found the weak spot in the tank system.
The "burst disk" can be replaced at any paintball store for about 5 bucks. (we do at least 3 a day in the winter time) The only problem is when you finally unscrew your tank again it won't hold pressure on the next fill (unless your the luckiest mf in the world.) The disk isn't totally gone, but it is probably warped REALLY good now.
Ive heard about putting your gun in the freezer too, but be careful, because if any liquified co2 is in your gun at all it will freeze and warp your internals, especially your o-rings. BE CAREFUL. At 40 degrees co2 is a liquid btw.


good luck yando. :)
thanks! its my friends tank though, so its his problem. ;)