New Tippmann A5

[Pulacki]

Has anyone else heard about the new Tippmann A5? Wow, I saw this thing and it looks awesome. Its modeled after the MP-5. I don't know when its coming out but I heard its gonna cost in the mid $300 range.

[smg60user]

Ok, you go through my website to the link to pre-order it! Just follow the A-5 link on index page.

[Derkster24]

It is selling for about $350. You can preorder on Actionvillage.com or County Paintball.

[paintballnsc112]

:drop: look at it :drop:

[paintballnsc112]

:drop: look at it :drop:

[Havoc45]

settle down guys, its pretty much a tippman with mp5 plating and and new hopper system. Even though its very pretty :) I'm not paying 350 for another blow back marker

[automagdude]

if you are a die hard of the tippmann company people will get it. It looks soo cool. they are finally making some guns that look like swat, navy seals guns. Just to tell you that is not a mp5. It is a type of mp5. It is called the PDW. It is a shorten versoin of the mp5. It shoots 900 rounds per min. Ok ok that is enough of my logic on one of my favorite guns. You can tell i like guns. some people like shotguns. I don't shotguns. Like swat guns and stuff. The high tech ones.:)

[Havoc45]

Don't knowledge me about guns yes I know its a PDW/MP5k build. If I do remember corectly, its mean kurtz or kertz in German meaning short. When the mp5 is not suitable for certain CQB missions, thats when the mp5k comes in. (Machine Pistol 5 Kertz). Ect ect ect.... I could write a whole report on this.

But yes its a buetiffly crafted gun. I think it would be great in scenerio games and in backyard rec ball. But this is just my opinion, but I dislike making guns look like real guns. Its one of those many factors you hear bad stories about.

Besides that it just comes back down to me that, its still just tippman "looking professional" while I would rather go for performace and save my 350$ than go with a class A gun. But I already know this is a loosing battle against me becuase this is in the tippman thread. Just my opinion. Not diss'n the gun.

[automagdude]

it seems you are dissing the gun. It is a shorten verision of the m98. The price should be lower. To about 225. then it would be a good gun for it's price

[ry_goody]

I dont know if anyone has posted this yet, sorry if they have. But I was looking around and found the A5 on www.actionvillage.com

Here is the link http://www.actionvillage.com/010-7019.html and they have a nice picture of it too

[Crime Dog]

I've merged the A-5 threads so that we only have 1 A-5 Thread. Startin' to get multiple threads on it. Also, I've stickied it for the time being...though eventually I'm going to unsticky it once the novelty wears off... Just a note. Please keep an eye out for multiple threads.

[Renmazuo21]

I'm just gonna wait a year and buy it when its about $150-200

[Havoc45]

same here, i want it and everything, but I dont wanna pay mad money for it

[specter542]

http://www.action-village.com/010-7019.html

why is this soooooooo much!!!!!!!!!!:eyes: :drop:

G wilocerS! it looks super sweet too. and i've heard that it will feed as fast as the bolt can cycle. hookin an Ebolt up to that would be sick as hell!! just mow em down!!!!!!:laugh:

[Pbgunwhore]

very nice gun there, i like everything tippmann has done for it.
Still customizable,durable, reliable and now... FIELD STRIPPABLE lolol
Only issues i would have with it is the barrel still sucks i would imagine and the cyclone feed thingy may stick out to far..
but all guns have there flaw.

[ncpaintballkid]

Hey I got a question... Does anyone know if that front grip is removable? It would be kind of screwed up if you put an expansion chmaber or reg on the verticle adapter and still had that crappy little foregrip out in front of it.

[Pulacki]

I heard that the little fore grip thing is adjustable to like 3 different settings

[automagdude]

if they lower the price i would buy it. i love tippmann. there is my tippmann!!:love: I was going to sell it but i love it soo much. It is my sniper gun. Smart parts barrels are the best. The sad part is they stoped making the big daddy. That is the barrel i got. It is great. Some people think it is a teardrop. It is the all american and the teardrop combined. Great barrel. The best upgrade you can get is accurate barrel.

[MCC]

the A5 is fing sweet!***he feed system is awesome!!

[jawpaul]

How many paintballs is the A-5 hopper goiong to hold? It looks mucho large.

[automagdude]

i think it would hold about 300 or more. That is my opinion. My m98 is sweet:)

[Havoc45]

nic does have a point, why dont they make normal guns rather than me seeing poeple with e-bolts and nitro on a tippman in a tourney game

[Slayerized]

From this picture here (http://store6.yimg.com/I/actionvillage_1682_89164299) The cyclone thing doesn't look to be too big

[smg60user]

You know, Tippmann has made actual military arms under contract for the government, tons of military training equipment, and you ask why their designs are so Tippmann in style? In '87 I got my first smg60. Since then I have never carried another paintball gun on the field. Sure I have shot buddies electros and cockers and have been happy with the shape of evolving our sport to adapt to the customers demands of lighter, faster, more flashy. No problem. But if you thing that Tippman doesn't know what they are doing every time they release a product or gunline YOU are the moron. Tippmann is not behind the industry, typically they have guided it. They have inspired it. Without tons of Tippmanns rugged reliability at rental fields across the globe, what would paintball be today? Where would it be if someone you knew that introduced you to the sport went to a field and rented a used 3 year old spyder and spent half the day at the rental building getting the importcrap fixed? Instead, they probably ( of course only applies if the feild had Tippmanns, but soo many do...) went and shot a procarbine, had a blast and decided to start playing as much as possible. Dennis Tippmann had the first full auto. He has had the greatest revolutionary feed systems the industry has ever seen. His products have always been designed to hold up in the worst conditions of play, abuse, weather, and have always held their own when in the hands of patient, competent players. So I just wanted to state my distaste for those of you who think Tippmann is so "behind" and "not in touch with players needs". How wrong could you be. You probably weren't even born when I first played with a Tippmann, and you just like whatever is new, shiny, and you see somebody win a game with. I trust em. I use them. I am going to buy the A-5 just to have and give an honest review for. Thanks for your 2 cents, but there you have mine.

[MCC]

well said smg60

[Igor_9000]

bravo!

[Assassin]

Oh please Nick...shut-up. You are just mad b/c someone w/a Tippmann showed more common sense than you. If you are such a great paintball player, you should know it's the person, not the gun (to a certain extent). I played just yesterday and took out a guy with an automag (he has also been playing paintball longer than me) and I got one guy off the break, and this was the whole length of the speedball field. All that coming from a "newbie" gun. BTW, why do you have to be able to fire so fast with your great electro if you are so good. You know what they call me on the field...the 1 shot wonder...no lie. And I have only earned that nickname because of the realibilty of Tippmann products (and a carbon fiber barrel). I'm not flamming here, I'm asking you not to flame us b/c obviously you don't really know what you are talking about. I have thought about selling my M98 many times, but I just can't do it. Everytime I do research about other guns I hear about them breaking down all the time, being so touchy and fragile.

They make different markers because everyone has different tastes. We're not coming into your electro forum and bashing you, so please leave us alone.

[smg60user]

Alot of people try to compensate for their lack of skill with high end electro-rigs that cost their moms thousands. If it werent for you guys we'd have no one to humiliate. You have a very needed position in the sport, on the other end of a Tippmann. I could take you out on any woods field, in any state, in any weather condition, with a Splatmaster. Oh yea, you guys like the perfect weather so your mom wont have to put the repair bill for your Angels and E-Mags on their MasterCard. Sorry for the challenge. My fault.

[ferret0123]

Whoa this thing looks sweet! It looks like Tippmann has finally relized the problems with the m98 (non-removable gripframe, no vert adapter, side -cocking, non feild strippable) and fixed them all with the a-5. Then they added this cyclone feed system thing that looks really,really awesome

Within year or so this gun will be down to at least $250, Then it will be the best blowback marker around, and tippmann
a-5s will replace alot of spyder shutters and such.

I am with assassin in that tippmanns can do as well as many electro guns and cockers and its no the gun that makes the player its the player that does

[Assassin]

HAHA...rite on smg.

[Havoc45]

Right smg. I work my ****in *** off so I can buy a tourny gun. I wanna hear that bs from you again. Cuz not every person want to link paintball with guns and violence. Sure man, if I ever meet you I'll borrow my friends matrix, and you can you a splatmaster. Play some speed ball k?

[smg60user]

I did not say that YOU were a punk or anything. You are a fellow lover of this sport, and therefore my colleague with mere disagreements, that's all. I just don't like people in general saying that Tippmann is crap. It is just ignoring the facts. Their innovations and ideas are revolutionary and have been there since the beginning. If their market share and customer loyalty were not more than you guys deny it to be, they would have run themselves out of business in much the same way the passenger vehicle division of International Harvester did. If you do not like to use them, or even look at them fine. I clearly said in the beginning that I enjoy the changing shape of the equipment we use. Diversity and choice makes the sport that much more fun. I won't use the other electro markers simply because the price/usefulness equation has never balanced out for me to pick up $3k in gear for one rig. Just don't come in here saying that Tippmanns are crap and we are all idiots who use them. If I were to play speedball with you, I would use a Tippmann, my shorty model, Intruder expansion chamber and RT for the same reason that swat entry teams don't use Barret light .50's. I could lay down impressive fire with a small compact weapon. Same as you, just with a more reliable design at one-fifth the cost. I would play all day against you and have a blast without fear, regret or remorse simply because I love to play. I don't prefer speedball because I have to pay some joker $15 to walk onto his field, possibly another $80 in paint from them, buy Co2 for a 500% markup, and follow their rules and time frames. I like going out with 15-20 guys who work at least as hard as you for what we have and playing any style for 10 hours or more sometimes. That's just me. We are not idiots and neither are you. That's all. Come to where I play and we can do it for free, all day and have fun. But I am not paying anybody for what I have been getting 2 blocks away from my house for 15 years now.

[Crime Dog]

Ahem. I'm going to give ONE warning here, and after that, this petty bickering and name calling better stop. Immediately.

Stop the petty bickering and name calling. I see it again, I'm handing out warnings. This thread is about the A-5. So stick to the topic. Alrighty?

Alrighty. Drive through.

[smg60user]

Done moderator. I now embrace my fellow paintballer:agree:

[Bocasean]

I am getting some of these in stock this week, and I'm going to film one in action. That way, you all will be able to see how well it works with your own eyes.

As for the price dropping, I'm sure that it will, but who knows how much, and when. The M98 started at around $300, but dropped to around $130-$150. However, it's been at that price for over a year. Tippmann guns hold their value for long periods of time....look at the Flatline. It's still over or around $100. That's a sign of Tippmann's quality. If you wait for the A5's price to drop $100, you might be waiting for a long time.

I'll let you all know when the videos are online. We have already filmed the AT-85, Meteor Shower Grenades, GHOST RCS Ultimate, and M3 Black Dragun, so I'm really excited about getting them online for everyone.

Later

Sean Rutan
UnitedPaintball
http://www.unitedpaintball.com/

[ippmann]

now people can't complain about the foregrip and the back grip being to far apart and uncomfortable

[Freak 5150]

Is it going to be full auto? Tippman once had a full auto marker that had the same feeding device as that. Maybe they are just making a semi with a revi built in.

[Freak 5150]

Ok I saw that it was semi, never mind.

[SolidVSnake]

Ok ... not to put the fight on any longer i just wanted to say that SMG i completely agree with you on everything u said. ever since i bought my tippmann my friends have done nothing but make fun of me endlessy about how crappy it is and how spyders are so much better and this that and the other thing..at one point i was ready to sell it and go buy another gun... then i said to myself i'm not gonna let these junky foreing guns win so i went a couple steps futher and started customizing my gun and man do i love my tippy... and the best thing of all is its made in AMERICA!!!!!!!!

[shocker622]

whats wrong with tournament players that have electros?? im on a team and i have a shocker, not all tourney players with electros go around picking on newbies and teasing them about their guns. thats just a bad stereotype because we have better guns, and some people get jealous. i know that there are some jerks that are like that, but most of us aren't and we just want to go out and play some good paintball like everybody else.

[smg60user]

I welcome the company of any player who loves the game. Especially one who shows respect for the game and player, not the gun. I like (as an engineer) the design and theory of operation of all electros, even the first sear-trippers. But as a soldier, I cannot ignore the inherent value of ruggedness and reliability. This A-5 demonstrates the design genious that has always put form following function. I think that this will be the greatest Tippmann to date. Someone please buy me one!;)

[smg60user]

Happy Easter everyone!

[noggins_1500]

Tippmans are probably the ultimate woods ball guns, they never break, theyre not too flashy, and you can use them effectively in almost any situation (id prefer something a little lighter and more compact for speedball, but ive used tippys in speedball tons of times.) Now, like the rest of you should be doing, on the the A5.

I like the idea of it already coming with a sweet feed, no more overpriced revvys. On the other hand, I am not a big fan of "real gun" design. Im sure this gun will attract lots of newbies cuz it "looks real!". The MP5 might be an excellent weapon for real life situations with bullets, but this is paintball. I think they could have made the shape of it more suited for pball, im sure its bigger than it needs to be, I bet youll have to buy those damn vertical adaptors, its probably heavier than it should be, its probably gonna be wider to resmeble an MP5 but that means more gun hits for us, and it will probably spark some violence in pball issues. Ive gotta give it credit for originality though.

I think they should have made a model 99, basically a M98c that is smaller, lighter, fieldstrippable, doesnt need a vert adaptor for x chambers, maybe replace that foregrip with an expansion chamber, a double trigger with a lighter pull, and a better sear (the sear wears out on model 98's every 30000 shots, but other than that it IS the most reliable gun out there). And maybe make it cocker or spyder threaded.

I wonder if they are gonna sell that feed system for other markers other than the A-5....

By the way im not bashing tippmann, i love the m98, i agree with everything SMG said, but i am not saying that tippmanns designs are perfect cuz they are not. I just think tippmann may be sacrificing practicality and performance for looks here.

[automagdude]

i tottaly agree with noggins_1500. But tippmanns are great speedball guns too if you know how to use them, but mostly woods are where they shine:D

[Donut62]

I love the A-5 already. I sold my M98 for a shocker last year and regret it. I don't regret getting the shocker- I regret selling my ol' trusty 98. Looks like I can add a tippmann into my closet once again with this A-5.

I love the ghost ring sight. For anyone who has truly used a ghost ring such as on the MP5, it's a fantastic little device that provides for quick target aquisition and accurate fire. I can't wait for the A-5, great back up for the shocker.

[GreenPic]

How did u get it stuck in your head that tippmann made the A-5 to "look" like a MP-5. im pretty sure they made it that way for the comfortablility, compactness, ruged, and reliability that this design offers. I mean why start with a totally new design when u have an excellent tried and true design sitting around?

you shouldnt be comparing this gun with the MP-5, its not an MP-5. it only has the comfortablility, compactness, ruged, and reliability like one, other than that its totally different.

If u really want to, we can compare our 98c's with an uzi you know, it kinda looks like one.... :rolleyes:

[specter542]

greenpic is right.
guys, who care what the gun looks like!! as long as it performs as good as or even better than the 98c, than its a good gun. the 98custom is an ugly gun. but it is the Carmen Electra of performance. and thats what mattes. who cares if it looks like an mp-5, ak47, m-1, uzi, etc etc, it is a paintball marker and thats what matters.... people make there 98customs look like m-16's all the time and no one ever has a problem. ...

[GreenPic]

EXACTLY! :D

[specter542]

:)!!!

[Tippmannmann]

when is the tippmann site going to update for the new marker?

[automagdude]

But it does have the looks of the mp5k. It has almost the same handle, the same sight, compactness. All they need to do is had on a clip.:laugh:

[Blimpey_boy]

I still think my model 99 may have been a better idea, but that guy had a point, as long as it performs well, and i suppose it could be practical

[shocker622]

i dont know if people have noticed yet, but paintball is really starting to come out of the woods, actually its been doing that for the past 7-8 years or so. we are trying to get pball on tv and promote as a safe non warlike sport. making/buying guns that look like mp5's and m16's and etc. wont help at all.

[automagdude]

that is crap. It doesn't matter if it looks like a mp5 or m16. Paintball gun is a paintball gun. It may look like a m16 but it doesn't shoot like one. It just makes people buy them. I think it is a good idea. People can make videos and movies with paintball guns.:laugh:

[shocker622]

you dont get it do you?

[automagdude]

i sort of get what u are saying. Not to make paintball guns look like real guns. But paintball guns are sort of guns in themselves. Paintball guns look almost like guns. So why not make them look like real guns and they look cool too.

[youm0nt]

if the gun was cheaper i ddfeintly get it.the cyclone feed looks amazing.i want to see that thing in action against angel.id be awesome if you can put it on a c98.too bad procarbine threads.limited to barrels.the tippmann site is now amazing.a nice entrance and they show pics of a5 and show systems.nice job tippmann.

[ghcaz]

Do you think/know if Tippmann will release the Cyclone feed system for the 98c? On the updated website, it just says that the "Cyclone Feed System is available stock only on the all new Tippmann A-5," but no that it will not be available for purchase. I know that I would sure love a system where blow back and incredibly fast rate of fire is possible! Tell me what you think/know.

[youm0nt]

the site is already updated.

[GreenPic]

hehe, i think the cyclone system will only be for the A-5. Why would they try to sell u a 350 gun when u could just upgrade your 98c with the cyclone for half that. tippmann would then be effectively competing with their own products, and thats a no no in the business world.

good idea but i really dont think itll happen, maybe PB or another company will come up with one, but i bet u that tippmann wont. ;)

[Mr Angel]

its a april fools joke dur!

[GreenPic]

hehe

i was never one for april fools, flame away! :D

[werty7373]

ok tippmann is a good company but look at the diagrams look wat they say. its a fancy m 98. no relly good improments.more field strippalbe but still looks like a pain there are 12 seperate pieces when you field strip it like 5 pins laying around waiting to get lost. the gun is selling for 369 and all it has is a bottomline?!?!?! the feed system is a can. probably cant except other loaders with out an adaptor o yeah the hopper holds 150- probaly 170 not 300. 15 bps and they say on co2???!! CAn u say shoot down, frozen orings?????? looks nice is it me or does the pics make it look plastic?????? or maybe it is???????? they should stop adding to the m98 dynasty and make a totally new line. tippmann dissapointed me on this 1


( u want field strippable look at a TL+ pull a pin pull the bolt out have the internals come out easy

[specter542]

correction: tippmann is the ONLY company.
:laugh: :laugh:

[shocker622]

yea tippmann really does need to come out with a completely NEW gun, maybe some high end semi or electro that isnt a model 98!!!god! enough with that m98 crap they need to do something new, not that i would buy it or anything but other people might. as for me i'm happy with smart parts and my shocker.........

[L_Dogg]

The guy I buy my gear and paint from has them for $289....
http://www.tippmann.com/index/main.jpg

[RRjoker]

Hey everyone interested in the A5, i just got off the phone with tippamann and got teh 411 on this new gun. So before you go buy, you might wanna read this.
Yes, they've gone and done it again. The A5 comes with another kind of barrel screw. In fact, its not even a screw, its just a clamp, kinda like whats on the blazer. So, for maybe quite a while, if you buy this gun, you gonna be stuck with the stock barrel until someone realeses either a barrel adapter or they start making A5 clamp barrels. Which, if the gun doesnt become that poplular, could be quite a while.
There are, as of right now, no upgrades in the forseeable future. The person that i talked with said that Tippmann has no plans for upgrades in the future, and no upgrades for like the 98 will fit the A5...ie, that sweet pro team CAR stock for the 98, you cant fit it onto your a5...kinda stinks, cause i WANTED that damn stock, go out all military like; but not any more.
Please note, this is right as they released it, so they could have some awesome ideas for in the future. However, for right now, i'd suggest holding off on buying the A5 until we see what else tippmann releases as an upgrade path. just my 2 censt, hope it helps ya'll out.

[Surreal]

how much ammo does that wide mouth loader hold? 500 rounds? it seems like it holds wayyyyy more than 200 rounds...

[akur8sh0t]

Originally posted by RRjoker
Hey everyone interested in the A5, i just got off the phone with tippamann and got teh 411 on this new gun. So before you go buy, you might wanna read this.
Yes, they've gone and done it again. The A5 comes with another kind of barrel screw. In fact, its not even a screw, its just a clamp, kinda like whats on the blazer. So, for maybe quite a while, if you buy this gun, you gonna be stuck with the stock barrel until someone realeses either a barrel adapter or they start making A5 clamp barrels. Which, if the gun doesnt become that poplular, could be quite a while.
There are, as of right now, no upgrades in the forseeable future. The person that i talked with said that Tippmann has no plans for upgrades in the future, and no upgrades for like the 98 will fit the A5...ie, that sweet pro team CAR stock for the 98, you cant fit it onto your a5...kinda stinks, cause i WANTED that damn stock, go out all military like; but not any more.
Please note, this is right as they released it, so they could have some awesome ideas for in the future. However, for right now, i'd suggest holding off on buying the A5 until we see what else tippmann releases as an upgrade path. just my 2 censt, hope it helps ya'll out.

Well, i dont know if you're just spreading bs, or if tippmann is trying to keep the new stuff on the dl...but you are poorly misinformed. Here's a little snip from a message from mike over at countypaintball.com

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Colin, owner of Lapco, has emailed me about some new products they're already working on for the new A5.

Barrel adapters for all popular markers, including the M98.
Dial and Adapter to replace the bottomline, allowing you to use a drop forward. Basically, it will take the angle out so you have a flat surface to work with.
Considering a metal cocking arm.
Confirmed that Lapco Prolite barrels will fit the A5.

Psycho Ballistics has also sent me some information:
They're working on a 2-finger trigger.
A5 Aradus (threads are same as ProCarbine but neck is longer.)
Few other things not disclosed yet.

Enjoy!
Mike


CountyPaintball.com - Online Super Store
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And seeing as how it says on tippmanns site that they are making an RT for the a-5, and a flatline as well

[Enos_Shenk]

well obviously nobody else from the tippmann forum has been around to clear up some of these misconceptions. also obviously, nobody here has even held one of these gems in their meaty paws. i have.

so here we go, for the guy who said the feeder is bulky, its alot less then youd think, but i still imagine there will be shots to the feeder on the side of the gun from firing out the right side of bunkers.

i believe i saw someone figured itd be heavy, its not. i thought itd be heavy too, but its actually very light for its size.

no, you do not have to buy a vertical adapter. the vert adapter is built right into the bottom of the reciever.

and yes there will be upgrades. RT, flatline, and e-bolt upgrades are going to be released very soon from tippmann, as another someone posted, lapco is very interested, the owner of lapco has been lurking about the tippmann forum and the tippmann irc chat inquiring about what people would like to see in upgrades already.

i also figured the non-45 grip would be awkward from looking at the pictures, but its very comfortable.

i found the trigger to be quite nice. comparable to a slightly tuned 98.

the sights are very nice, easy to acquire a target. but in case you dont like em, theres about 3 inches of standard sight rail on the top of the reciever.

the price is a bit steep, but as soon as i get the money it will be sent off to tippmann. i wanna get my hands on one before all the low serial numbers are taken. the guys a5 that i got to play around with was number 00051, and the first 50 were only for in-factory testing, so the lucky guy had the first production a5.

BTW for the record, the cyclone feeder is adapted from the factory f/a star feeder.

now im going to rant a bit, this is a bloody new gun. people complaining that this isnt a new tippmann, that its just a glorified 98. well as far as im concerned, if you change the reciever, the grip frame, the trigger, the feeder, the sights, the barrel (looks like a stock 98 but its not), the bottomline, the valve, the internals, ITS A NEW GUN. kingman comes out with a "new" gun every few weeks, but does anyone complain that every stacked tube spyder is the same (well, actually most people do, but some dont) every tippmann since the 68 special has been an inline design with the same basic theory, but are they all the same gun?

hope ive cleared this up.

hope this clears some stuff up.

[Nautica King]

ok this is ****ed up so ur saying that the upgrades will br a while ?! who the hell wuants to buy a stock gun and keep it that way for a while ? HELLO TIPPMAN ! u want to see if the gun sells first ? who wants to buy a gun and cant trick it out for a while ?! i was like ooo i got to get this gun and then i hear they dont have anything for it ? ! o and u can get the gun for 280 at edge paintball www.edgepaintball.com

[Nautica King]

o sorry here is the real edge paintball sute http://www.edgepaintball.cjb.net/

[Kreno]

That was a dumb move on Tippmann's part if they made it with pro-carbine threads... They have the abillity to use 98 threads, why don't they make them with that? I mean is it just me or are there more barrels available for the M98? Like.... EVERY SINGLE ONE IN EXISTENCE JUST ABOUT?! Yeesh...

[ncpaintballkid]

I think this is what tippmann is trying to do with the a-5 barrel threads is this.... You know how there are basically no barrels for the pro carbine right now? Well they most likely think that a lot of people will want the a-5 and there will be a large demand for pro carbine aftermarket barrels. So then once companies start making pro carbine threaded barrels a-5 users and pro carbine users will start buying a lot of new barrels. In a way they have helped the pro carbine and there company by making the gun like this. This is just my theory so feel free to think or say different.

[Goose]

um, maybe other barrel makes will make money becuase tippmann doesnt make good barrels, sure they make barrels with pro carbine threads but so do a bilion other barrel companies

[ncpaintballkid]

I know i didn't really do a good job explaining this. I think you are right I kind of confused myself there or something. lol.

[FrOnTMaN]

dont worry about it. you made perfect sense. by making it p/c threads it gives the poor pro/carbine owners the chance to buy some aftermarket barrels. its good bussiness. it gives your older guns a better chance of surviving. although not a very good decision, as the m98 threads would have made many people happier, but oh well. u gotta drop another 50-100 bux on a new barrel. live with it.

[smg60user]

Um, I don't understand all the whining about the barrels. I had about 6 barrels that I had acquired for the Scoprion which had Spyder threads. Instead of buying the barrels for the 98 that I wanted, I just bought the $10 t98 to spyder adapter, and now I have like 10 barrels for the Tippmann. There is an adapter for almost any barrel to go into any gun. (automags excepted of course) Just relax. Everyone is like me, and Lapco or someone else will be making an adpater so you can put your stinkin boomsticks and stuff on there.. Relax. It will be ok. I am sure that release of the marker was relative in timing to things that non-business owners don't care to grasp, and the accessory market will take care of itself. It is not Tippmann's place to strongarm other companies into making barrels on Tippmann's schedule, and in return, Tippmann wasn't going to wait on the catching up of aftermarket manufacturers to release the hottest product in years. Everyone is so whiney. I am just glad to see the thing released. Soon enough I too will try one out, and tell the truth of what I find.

[ncpaintballkid]

Thanks that is exactly what I was trying to say.

[ncpaintballkid]

Hey people my post above doesn't make sense right now becasue i posted it at exactly the same time as smg60user so kine should be above his.:confused: :( :crazy:

[Gestapo]

From what I've heard they don't make any adapters that fit the 98 threads .There are some people who have spent alout of money on tippy barrels ! After all that money in barrels, they could only use them on Model 98's! " I just heard this,and don't know if this is true ,but I also looked for one on the net,and I could not find one". I dont know about you ,but me myself spent about 250$ on Tippy barrels,and if i do get the A5 it's really gonna suck If i have to buy even more barrels.

[Crime Dog]

I might be confused here too...but...I had a Cocker to Tippy 98 barrel adapter awhile back. I had a J&J Barrel with autococker threads, and i wanted to use it on my 98...and I got an adapter that allowed me to do that. But maybe you're talking about a 98 to something else adapter...

Anyway...

[Gestapo]

" I think that the new A5 will come out with a X Chamber that looks like a mp5 clip". I've seen other mp5 PB guns that came like that, can't the new A5 do that too?

[General Lee]

does any one know if this thing really has to cost $350 or is there some price fixing going on here?

[General Lee]

I'm kind of sorry to be saying this, but Tippmann is starting to piss me off. I know I just put a post up, but then I started looking at the facts and it's starting to piss me off. For starters the marker cost $350 There's know way it needs to be that much, the only big difference for the 98 is the feed system. Looks cool, but that is the only thing that interests me in the A-5. Now lets see, the new marker has Pro-carbin type barrel threads. Half the people who own tippmann's have 98's but they make it with pro-carb. threads? Hey thanks a lot Tippmann! As far as "It looks like a real gun!" I don't really care for the most part as long as it performs, but a lot of people are buying the marker because it's a tippmann (who's is known for making good stuff) and its looks. :(

To summaries this, I love Tippmann, but it seems that the sole purpose of the A-5 is to make as much money as passable. I really don't think the A-5 is going to carry on the legacy the 98 laid down for Tippmann products. They took a great marker (The model 98) Made it look a little different, new feed system, add a little here and there to make it look like they actually did something, and then charge $350 for it.

Tippmann I love you, but from all the articles I'v read...... :bawling:

[Crime Dog]

I"m almost inclined to agree. To be honest, I'm not really that impressed with the A-5 (from what I've seen and read.) But then again, 15 bps doesn't impress me period. I much prefer my stock semi-auto, without the aid of a Revvy or anything... Makes it more of a challenge. Guns that shoot fast, and the systems that accompany them just plain don't do anything for me.

I have to admit, I wouldn't spend my money on the A-5. But that's just me. My friend Elrond has mentioned he may get it...but I'd rather save my money for something else. Just not enough there to make me go "Wow!"

[pyropig]

i dont know if anyone has posted this but i found the A-5 at
www.unitedpaintball.com for $319 and if you call 888 paintball and tell them that you found it for that price they will beat it by 10% of the differance and they are selling it for $368 :)

[automagdude]

I disagree with the Crime dog. players need these fast shooting guns. At least front players. I play front my self. Sometimes you have to shoot fast burst. I am not talking about long burst. I think shooting some one over 7 times is wrong, but if they don't call out after a while. Well i will make that up to you to decide. Front players need fast shooting gun because they have a person pointing their gun at you ready to shoot when you come out soooo you need to quick pop out and shoot like a 3 or 4 rounds. Snap shooting is the way to go. :)

[Meph]

I don't know why I bother with some of you idiots. I'm not going to point out the built in "rocket cock" or that it's got a force-feed system which requires no batteries, removable grip frame, field stripped with no tools in 60 seconds, built in vertical adapter.... I'm sure all of this crap which seperates it from the Model 98 is already been posted.

However, are you people seriously this stupid? "Oh they piss me off, they're charging 350 for it". Yeah well guess what genius? It JUST hit the market. Gee, don't you THINK (of course you don't think!) that maybe that is why they are charging full MSRP price?

What is the pro/carbine MSRP? $249.00. What can you get it for? $135.00. That's right, from the MSRP after a while, the price has dropped $114.00.
The Model 98 MSRP is what? $199.95. How much can you get one for? Hell, you can get a Model 98 for $130.00. That is ALSO dropped price of *drumroll* $69.95.

And now let us, children, put 2 and two together, shall we? Hmmmm, in the past, as we have learned, the MSRP is something that will become a very high price as compared to what you can buy it for off the shelves. So with time, that means the price drops? Indeed!

And it will be no different with the A-5. You people are *****ing about the A-5's MSRP. Ok, so why don't I hear you ***** about the Pro/Carbs' MSRP? Or the Model 98's MSRP? Hell, why not ***** and moan about the Revolution loader's MSRP? I mean sure you can get these for less than 50 dollars now, but they USED to cost 100 bucks when they first hit the shelves.

Lesson here. I hope my sarcasm has taught a little lesson to you people who are digging and scraping for every single little reason to complain about a Tippmann product. Here's a novel idea. Before you even have a thought about how good or bad it is and then posting it as if you know what you are talking about... how about you, oh I dunno, actually hold the thing and shoot it, or even play with it in a game first?

[Carlos Hathcock]

VERY well said!:nod: :nod:

[Bocasean]

I finally got a chance to shoot the A5 this weekend. I'm still having problems with our video feeds, but they'll be online ASAP.

Anyways, it felt like a Model 98 in some ways, mainly because of tank position and heft. It had a slight recoil like the M98, but it "felt" different. Another field owner who was firing it too noted that the recoil went "straight back, where the M98 kicked upwards." That may explain it, but I guess you'll have to feel it for yourself. Either way, it was a slight recoil, and it wasn't a problem. I actually liked it.

I don't know about the stock barrel, since the one I was firing had an ACI barrel on it. It takes Prolite threads, which means there are plenty of aftermarket barrels available. It shot accurately.

The ROF is usually the hot ticket with this gun, so I'll get to it. I was able to fire some quick bursts with my shooting style (I used my non-holding index finger to slap the trigger) and so was the other owner with a standard shooting style. We couldn't out shoot the feed, and we were definitely in the mid teens with our BPS. The most noticeable thing about the speed was that no paint broke at all. That was impressive. We were fanning, shooting in varying rhythms, and shaking the gun. It performed well.

Overall, I liked it. The foregrip was comfy, and the feed didn't stick out like I'd worried it would. The trigger could be better as a double blade, with it maybe sitting closer to the frame. It's easier to rip off some fast shots with bent fingers than extended fingers it seems. Just a finger travel issue I guess. Oh yeah, the front circle sight was nice, as it gives you an accurate frame of reference without really "aiming." I wish they would've flashed it up a little and gone away from the cast black look of the M98, but it's the target market they are shooting for. I'll let you know more once I get some film of it.

Later

Sean Rutan
UnitedPaintball
http://www.unitedpaintball.com/

p.s. That 10% thing with 888 is the whole reason that I'm spending most of my efforts on our own products. The little guy gets no love, and despite all of our efforts with customer service and decent prices, people still leave us for so little.

[werty7373]

wow rocket cock vertical adaptor botttomline field stripable. look at a TL+ has all that plus a gas thru fore grip(u can say mini x chamber but those are useless making it a fore grip) no tools neded on a spyder and no six pins rooling around (Maybe 1:) ) a can on the side what about lefties they cant aim down the side that well. also the barrel system on it is screwed up

[Surreal]

lol what an idiot.. yes, and why would leftys aim down the side when they can aim on top of the gun ??? gj genious. when was the last time you seen a spyder NOT have a breakdown? okay, never. spyders are indurable loud pieces of sh*t. the A5 comes with a front grip and you dont need gas thru foregrip because the gas goes into the gun anyway. face it, your spyder is inferior

[werty7373]

indurable??!? yeah if u shove the barrel in dirt well i have to give the m98 the award for most durable gun and what no upgrades planned when it was released and a clamp barrel it looks good though. No 1 can ever win this thread because it's about opinon. who doesnt like the a5 and has a tippmann m98. it is a good medium semi because of the fast rof. There should be a regulator or x chamber to prevent shoot down in the rof and liquid co2. and about loud get a new barrel

[automagdude]

You can just buy a Xchamber!!!! and put it on. And The a5 i would have to try it out to decide if i like. (and i have a m98) Sooo why would i buy other gun that has some changes and it is all most like the m98. I would probably save up for like a cocker or a angel.

[Enos_Shenk]

wow, this is getting heated.

anyway, i got my a5 today, so now lets see what else i can clear up.

heres the story behind the carbine threads. stuck in the front of the a5 reciever is a nifty little chunk of metal called a barrel adapter. This amazing device makes the a5 accept carbine barrels. Now the reason they did this is due to the plan to release the flatline on the a5. You pull out the barrel adapter, and the flatline drops right in. As for why they decided on carbine threads instead of 98 i dont know. But id like to say, as a former carbine shooter, hah hah! Now, i would assume that a company like lapco is busy making cool things to put on the a5, i would also assume one of these cool things would be a barrel adapter that drops right into the reciever the way the stock does.

so, what do i think of it so far. very very cool. But then again, im a tippmann loyalist.

The trigger pull is light as a feather and short as an asian mans....err...well its short.

After i broke the gun down and lubed it, i screwed on my J&J and rigged up my old x-chamber. This thing looks like a friggin monster with an x-chamber hanging off the bottom, very intimidating.

Anyway, pics if anyones interested: here (http://403forbidden.urbanexploration.org/a5pics.html)

Ill probly be adding a few more to that site of some of the disassembly stages, take a look inside the feeder, all that good stuff. Gonna run around 300 rounds of diablo through it tommorow, so ill get some pics of that too.

[Surreal]

sweet enos, ive been waiting for SOMEONE to do that. thanks man, keep those pics commin'

[Enos_Shenk]

I love this gun, i just cant stop promoting it.

anyway, lets see, i fired about 300 rounds of old, settled, crusty diablo midnight through here (figured it was better then trashing it) and about 50 rounds of fresh PMI (im broke since i bought this) the a-5 was stock except for my J&J.

So, i set up a pizza box as a target, backed off about 50 feet and let a couple fly. Very very quiet with the J&J, quiet for a tippmann anyway. ripped off a few more and nailed the box with each shot. I was pretty impressed.

Now i figured it was time to test the ROF. i took it wide open, beat holy hell out of the pizza box, the a5 kept up with each shot no problems. I figured thatd be pretty chilly on a valve running straight co2, but the reciever wasnt even chilled. No suprise there i thought, tippmanns have always prefered a glass of liquid co2 before lunch.

I backed off to about 90 feet or so, figured id be pretty hard pressed to hit consistently, but i nailed the box about 80% of the shots (probly around 50) so i reloaded and opened it up again. still no shootdown or chilling.

Anyway, im anxious to play with this thing, hopefully once i get enough money to afford field paint.

took a few more pics, field stripping pics (http://403forbidden.urbanexploration.org/fieldstrip.html)

[ds613]

Originally posted by automagdude
if they lower the price i would buy it. i love tippmann. there is my tippmann!!:love: I was going to sell it but i love it soo much. It is my sniper gun. Smart parts barrels are the best. The sad part is they stoped making the big daddy. That is the barrel i got. It is great. Some people think it is a teardrop. It is the all american and the teardrop combined. Great barrel. The best upgrade you can get is accurate barrel.

They didn't really stop making the big daddy. The aa is 2 piece now and you can get a freak (teardrop) front with an aa back.

[big dog 71]

enos your a-5 is awesome icant wait to get one after saw what u did with yours and all the pictures on the inside reassuring the quality of the gun. thank you.

[automagdude]

hey dudesss i am sorry i got a little upset back there. I just get mad sometimes.:pissed: But any way. They stop making the orginal big daddy. I know you can get a two piece aa and then buy a teardrop front. I was glad when i saw that like a month ago when i saw it:) :)

[the tipp-man]

ffaf faf v alltho the flatline is coming out for the A-5 i wouldent wast my money on it:pissed: it is probably a good gun but why spend that much money if you allready have a good gun and if youre like me one shot does the trick why would you want 15 i know the game is about having the bigger and better gun but im fathful to my 98 custom and would never put it down nomatter how strong or powerful the other gun is you have to have fath in your gun:blah:

[SolidVSnake]

Right on tipp-man, well said my custom is kick ***, and i dont care how much money is invested in auto cockers and angels ect ect nothing can compare to the love i have for my tippy and the time and work i put into building it! I LOVE MY TIPPMANN!!!!!!!!!!

[zorbie21]

Ok...I posted this earlier but it got closed and said to Look in the Sticked Thread for the A-5. OK...welp I already did and I wouldn't ask questions if there were already info about it....unless there is then I'm wrong and apologize. Ok...done venting.

I've looked at just about every piece of info that I can find and have been reading all the reviews and posts in the forums...and eventually I know I'll get myself an A-5. I'm drooling on myself right now. One question I have is when you disassemble the gun there's a little lever to pop out the vertical adapter....what I wanna know is how the vertical adapter fits into the power tube or does it? From just looking at the diagrams it doesn't seem like there would be an airtight seal or that there is any connection between the two pieces. Also...when field stripping...you have to turn the velocity adjustment screw in to get the power tube out. Well, when putting the power tube back in...does it align by itself or do you have to tinker with it to get the velocity adjustment screw and its hole to match up? FINAL QUESTION!! Ok...exactly what parts of the A-5 are PLASTIC!! I'm not asking for a piece by piece breakdown....just generally if that's possible. I've read somewhere that the shell of the Cyclone (can lookin part) is plastic and that the rear grip/handle/frame (you know what i mean) that separates from the receiver when field stripping is plastic also. Is it true that these are plastic? Anything else? If so...I'm not so much worried about the Cyclone but hopefully someone makes a metal grip and incorporates some rubbery stickies onto it or somethin. Plastic just seems cheap to me....at least for that part. Theres alot of stress on the rear grip especially if you're one handed shooting for some reason.

thanks....anyone play around Dayton?

[Ebonclaw]

Well...I must say the Cyclone feed is impressive. Now all you need is a hopper that will keep the feed fed. So it really hasn't fixed anything, it's just a miniature Warp feed. I'm sure if you hooked an electronic actuator to it instead of a manual trigger you could still outshoot it. Not to mention the cyclone feed apparently RELIES on a manual trigger...so it's not like you could pull it 15 times a second like they say anyway.

Buuut....it looks to be a very promising gun. Maybe I'll get one if I ever find the money. (We all know how much of THAT a paintball player has in his wallet.) I like the looks, they finally fixed the filed strip problem (well...kinda).....and they made use of a very nice type of sight that you can't really find in Pball, and from what I understand from the replies I've read so far, it's got performance to boot. Maybe one on HPA would solve that Co2 shootdown, eh?

[Blazestorm]

Dude, the cyclone is basically a built in halo.
Its not like the warp feed.

It uses the stock hopper, the reason for the giant hole is for more paintballs to be stacked in one spot! If you have 30 paintballs at the same height as 4, what would be better for long strings of paint, ofcourse the 30 paintballs. =) along with a 15bps feeder, throw on a reactive, you got a friggen nice gun =)

[specter542]

just to let yall know, i held an a-5 today and that guns kicks some SERIOUS butt. the gun looks and feels awsome. just by holding it, i give it 2 thumbs up.

[stray bullet]

The plastic parts include:
Cocking handle
Front Grip
Cyclone Housing
Power Tube "same plastic as 98"

I have the A-5 and this is not a cheap grade of plastic that's used in the marker. It looks cheap to the unobservant but when has Tippmann put cheap parts in their markers.

The hopper is another issue...............

[FrOnTMaN]

spec compared to a m98 how well does it perform, aside from the better trigger. better accuracy?

[Bocasean]

It does not chop EVER. I could not get it chop a ball, no matter how screwy I pulled the trigger. The Cyclone force feeds paint into the breech, which eliminates the problems associated with blow-back. It's great on that end. It breaks down easier than the M98 too, and it's a bit more compact. Plus, the annoying wobble from the hopper feed is gone. At first I was a little skeptical of the $379 price, but it's definitely worth $300, just for the feed alone.

As for accuracy, I did not see any major difference from the M98, but the M98 is actually pretty accurate with a good barrel. So is the A5.

Hope this helps

Sean Rutan
UnitedPaintball
http://www.unitedpaintball.com/

[Enos_Shenk]

for the guy who asked about the air adapter seal, heres how it works. it confused me too when i looked at the parts diagram, but once i opened my a5 up, it was all made clear.

the tombstone shaped piece has a hole in one side. the entire tombstone slides up into a hole in the bottom of the valve, and the hole in the side of the tombstone seals against an o-ring. i honestly cant figure out how it seals so good, but it hasnt leaked or done anything crazy yet.