Tippman Vs Spyder

[Rob1313]

What do you think

[RedWidow]

I feel that tippmans look like a stick with handles, and are way overated, they may cost more then spydrs but it doesnt neccesarily mean it is better, another thing is tippmans have the worst stock in the history of paintball guns.spyders have much more complex design aand is much more upgradable. Besides what gun do you have anyway???

[Counterfeit]

Spyders are not more complicated than tippmans. They both opporate on the same basic principals. Just a different design.

[Eladamri]

Both guns have their pros and cons, I have a M98 and my brother has a TL+. Both of them are great entry lvl guns. I personally like the feel of the M98 better than the Spyders and clones but the clamshell design is a pain in the ***. Id have to say that which one is the better gun is totally dependant on the person behind the gun and which one they feel more comfortable with

[blades of ice]

i like the spyder design better its liter and more manuverable tippmanns are long and ukward and aren for me the spyder has its cons too if your looking at guns look at infernos and bruziers there my faveroits they both are sturdy and well manufactored and bruziers take spyder parts

[TLplus84]

teh tippman guns and spyders both have the over under internal structure. The bolt is on top of the striker, and the sear releases the striker to hit the valve pin, which opens up the cup seal, and lets air to shoot the paintball and recock the gun. They are not the only ones like this, there are numerous others that follow this basic design.

[PaintKiller]

Spyder all the way!!!!!!!!!!

[A damn fool]

spyders rule, get it over the tippman, it has a nicer feel, and theyre easier to upgrade. Definetly spyder!!!!

[PaintKiller]

Yep I love my shutter it is the best.
But I HATE THE STOCK BARREL!!!!!!!
You probley have the same problem as me when you are outside when its really really cold out it freezes and wont cock back.
1 word of advise dont force it back out like i did but it does work.
I fear that chance of breaking it.

[bowman57]

why do people keep asking this question? tippmans and spyders are both good guns. its all really a matter of personal preferance.(or however you spell that)

[TLplus84]

man..this could go on forever...

[Richy_C]

don't worry, it will.......it will...........

[polarbear]

Originally posted by bowman57
why do people keep asking this question? tippmans and spyders are both good guns. its all really a matter of personal preferance.(or however you spell that)

Spelled right or not the point exactlly correct!!!!!!!

[Ajax]

People keep asking this question because they are new to the polls and don't know the answer. I am guilty of this as well. I know that we should first do a search of the forum, but it seems easier to just ask.

[PaintKiller]

OK i think its time for a new poll.!!!!!

[TLplus84]

i got it~! A POLL ON (drumroll): SPYDER VS. TIPPMAN~! WOO~!! :eek:

[SmartBall]

Lets just say it's over!

[PaintKiller]

OK we proved that spyders are better then tippens however they spell it.
Here is how i say it titeans.

[TLplus84]

we never proved that..we proved taht as usual its the preference of hte player. NOW iT IS CLOSED~! -=poof~!=-...oh wait....it didn't close the thread...:( ;)

[JesterDude15]

Counterfeit is trying to sound smart....

A spyder is a paintball gun that performs with a spring while a Tippy (Pnuematic) performs without a spring.

[iipaintballer]

I believe both are excellent starter markers. Between the two I would reccommend the Spyder. Has more after market parts and is more easily upgradable, however the custom is pretty easy now as well. But that is for higher end upgrades.

http://www.iisports.com

[C4pyro]

Both are good guns but tippmanns just make better field guns...you can do almost anything to them and they will still shoot straight...the spyder does look better and have the most upgrades for it...although the m98 has a lot as well...otherwise...both great guns.

[mefunny]

Spyders 4ife!!

[ry_goody]

Tippmanns are better, there design makes the more reliable and efficient and the trigger pull on a tippmann is much much nicer. I'd choose a model 98 over a spyder any day.

[DasBaldDog]

Both are very good entry level guns but they both pale in comparison to the regality of an autococker. Don't bust on a cocker till you've played with a well-tuned one. I love my many-moon old Prolite. Spyders are basically the same principle just a different approach.

[davidb]

I own a Spyder Shutter, and a few of my friends own Tippmanns, and I just have to say, the M98 absolutely owns the Spyder as far as speed/trigger pull goes. I like the feel better too. Neither one is better than the other really, but honestly, if you got a Model 98 and put a new barrel on it it will be better speed/accuracy-wise than a Shutter, which costs nearly 2x as much. Then again, it will also be bigger and less maneuverable (sp?) but one thing about Tippmanns, they are (with hopper on both) close to half the height of a Spyder. I wish I had gotten a Tippmann, but that's just my personal preference, and it doesn't mean they are better. Taking apart a Tippmann is no picnic, but you don't really have to do it except at home to mess with the inner workings, you can clean it without taking it apart.

[TheMuRph1018]

I like spyders because I feel they are more user friendly and more upgradable, although tippman does have some of the coolest upgrades I have seen such as the response trigger and the fully electric grip frame. The spyder has more of a variety of upgrades. Have you ever seen more than two upgraded spyders that look the same? I have seen many tippmans that look the same. The syder has overall better performance, style, customizing features and upgrades. My vote goes to the syder.

[ds613]

I like them both and started with a tippmann, but I play speedball/hyperball and think I would rather use a spyder than a tippmann because of the size. For woods I think I would want a tippmann.

[filasophikal]

i think tippmann... have you seen any spyders in a pro tournament? have you seen any tippmanns in a pro tournament? i have seen tippmanns go against angels and the like... check out tippmann effect... they never win... but always place within the top 10-20 at most nppl tournaments. and think about this if you threw an m98 like the guy did with his angel in the push movie... nothing would happen, if you drop a spyder on the ground... the powerfeed will break off, the hopper will come off, the gun will break into two pieces... now tell me, which one is the better of the two... after reading this post....

[PaintKiller]

Yeah I saw the video online.
And the part where he does that to his marker.
I would say.Before you decide to break it..how about giving it to me?....SO I can break it.Yesssss

[filasophikal]

where you saw it online... was it a teaser or the full length 70 min. film...

he didn't break it, balls fell out of his hopper, probably scratched it... but that's about it... everything remained together...

also another thing about tippmanns, there made to last... why u think so many field owners use tippmanns as rentals... they can take the abuse of any newbie, any day.

[PaintKiller]

Yeah thats what happened.
go to http://www.google.com and type in .......ummmmmmm
type in push video download or
streaming paintball video...Yeah thats what I type and a big list of pball videos pop up

[ry_goody]

I bet alot of you that are saying spyders are better than tippmanns have never even shot a tippmann. The tippmann is lighter weight, more durable (the field I play at rents out model 98's and those things are so banged around and messed that the anodizing has nearly come off on all of them, but when I played with one it worked perfectly, never sputtered or anything), the trigger is way better (its shorter and lighter), tippmann's are also very comfortable to hold, there upgradability is very good (you can get anything a spyder can have but you can get flatlines, reactive triggers, electro pnuematic triggers). The only bad thing is that teh stock barrel on a model 98 sucks SO bad.

[MateoTheConquerer]

personally tippmann would kick Kingmans ***........

the reasons

1. tippmanns are A LOT more durable....can takes mass punishment...
2. tppmans are easier and more durable...spyder break easily chop more and are harder to clean...

in other words Funk spyders..........

[in trauma]

Originally posted by MateoTheConquerer
personally tippmann would kick Kingmans ***........

the reasons

1. tippmanns are A LOT more durable....can takes mass punishment...
2. tppmans are easier and more durable...spyder break easily chop more and are harder to clean...

in other words Funk spyders..........

PREECH IT BROTHER!!

AMEN!!

that's why they are the rental guns! they are durable

[Wasimodo]

My bro has a Tippman, and I've shot it, so I figure I'm qualified to talk. First of all, to ry_goody: I can't believe you'd say a Tippman is lighter. Tippmans are heavy, heavier than Spyders. Plain and simple. Second, about durability: Yes, Tippmans are more durable than Spyders. But unless you're going to be throwing your gun around, who cares if it can take a beating like that or not? Just be very careful with your gun and don't do anything stupid and you won't have to worry about breaking it. Third, it's a hell of a lot harder to take apart a Tippman than a Spyder. I can get at any part of a Spyder in a fraction of the time it takes to get at a Tippman. Hell, there are about 12 screws sitting around my bros gun when he takes it apart. Fourth, and finally, the trigger isn't a big deal. I spent a few hours (it only took me that long because I kept screwing up) working with my trigger, and one spring and two pieces of epoxied plastic later, I had a better trigger pull than my bro's Tippman. Now, to give credit to Tippmans, they do seem to be more accurate stock than Spyders. However, the amount of things I can do to my Spyder makes me favor it to Tippmans.

Phew!

[I win]

Spyders are trendy! Tippmann's have better reviews too.

[CDietz]

I owned both, and look at the gun in my sig that i still have. Spyders rule!!! (mags are better)

[Thor the Mighty]

i'm getting an extra pretty soon! hell yeah! dye sticky grips, 12" nyte stykk, 12volt clear revvy, 20oz tank! i am gunna rule!

[unreal7]

SCREW TIppmann,They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!

[JesterDude15]

Tippmans have better triggers but it is hard to get into any rythm with them because the pull is hard and has a nice return. Spyder triggers are REAL easy to get in a Rythm with because they are kind of long but soft.

Tippmans are a little more consistent but they are LONG. Both are not speedball guns. I only use my Spyder for woods play. That is were blowbacks EXCEL. Cause in the woods there is hardly any reason to play tight.

[larson]

I owned both a Spyder TL and a Tippmann 98 at the same time and after alternating them a couple times I ended up selling the Kingman. The reasons?

1) OK, so the Kingman is more customizable. But those aren't performance upgrades, their cosmetic. Most of the Spyder's "upgrades" were changing something that does little except alter the look of the gun. Compare that to Tippmann upgrades. If you want you can still waste money and get cosmetic alterations on your Tippmann, but you can also well spend your money on Tippmann exclusives like the Flatline Barrel System and Reactive Triggers. Sure, you have to spend $20 to get a double trigger for a Tippmann, but I personally dislike double triggers. If double triggers were so much greater, don't you think the M-16 or AK-47 would have one?

2) DURABILITY. Ok, compare the amount of plastic in each marker. The Tippmann has about 3. The end cap, the foregrip, and the ball latch. The Spyder is half made of plastic with too many parts to list. So what if the Spyder is "pretty" and blue while the Tippmann is plain looking? Your Spyder's pistol grip will snap off if you drop it while nothing will happen to my Tippmann.

just my 2 cents

-lars

(ps if i dont make sense its because my wisdom teeth just got pulled and my morphine pills are wearing off)

[filasophikal]

Originally posted by unreal7
SCREW TIppmann,They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!

read below:

[PBSouLjAh]

this is for tlplus84.......

tippmanns aren't of over under/ stacked tube design. basically a spyder except instead of stckign the tubes, they are put infront of each other, and the bolt is connected to the hammer by a long rod.

[JesterDude15]

tippys are excellent guns, so are spyders, they are both blowbacks designed for beggining to lower advanced players. They are both very reliable and great for woods. Tippmanns happened to be suicide for speedball (the concept of playing tight comes into play at times :) ), I like me Spyder for Speedball, the trigger is a bit softer but it is still WAAY too long. Tippmans and spyders can turn into anything you want them to be. They have Electro kits, grip frames, every single barrel on the market, unlimited numbers of things you can do. In the long run, Tippmanns are more reliable, but are not as easy to maintain. I know they are easy to maintain but not as easy as a spyder.

They both stack up pretty evenly, I think a cheap compact would be your best bet if you are on a budget. But if you are not and have $0 - $150 or what not get a Tippmann.

[Thor the Mighty]

i dunno, i think that spyders are a heck of alot more upgradable, but tippies are good too

[DasBaldDog]

Originally posted by unreal7
SCREW TIppmann,They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!

Have you even SEEN a tippmann? People, this is what I'm talking about, the little stupid newbie coming in, without any so much warning as a mouse fart, and flaming without cause, explanation or obvious motive (other than to be an idiot). I have no problem with people who don't like Tippmann, personally I think it lacks in some areas, but if you are going to state your opinion, please do it in a more reasonable and educated manner than
Originally posted by unreal7
SCREW TIppmann,They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!

[Wasimodo]

Originally posted by DasBaldDog
Originally posted by unreal7
SCREW TIppmann,They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!

Have you even SEEN a tippmann? People, this is what I'm talking about, the little stupid newbie coming in, without any so much warning as a mouse fart, and flaming without cause, explanation or obvious motive (other than to be an idiot). I have no problem with people who don't like Tippmann, personally I think it lacks in some areas, but if you are going to state your opinion, please do it in a more reasonable and educated manner than


Very well put DasBaldDog. After thinking about this some more, I'm going to change my previous post a bit:

Stock:

Tippmans are definitely better for the cost if you're going to keep the gun stock. My spyder shot like crap without a barrel upgrade, but once I put one on it was very nice. My bro's Tippman, on the other hand, shot very accurate without a single change to it. He was even surprised to find that upgrading to a 32 degrees carbon fiber provided minimal additional accuracy. Overall, Tippman beats Spyder stock.

Upgrades:

This is difficult. To start, there are definitely more upgrades out there for the Spyder. Someone said that they were only cosmetic - not true at all. There are things like regs, bolts, spring kits, etc. that upgrade the performance of a Spyder. Putting these sorts of things on a Tippman is difficult, because Tippmans only take Tippman upgrades. For instance I just had to buy a reg to hook one up to my Spyder. My bro, on the other hand, had to first buy a vertical adapter. When he went to install it, the clam shell design gave him so many problems that he had to pay 10 bucks for our proshop to install it. He ended up paying the same price to get a stock cocker reg installed that I did for my Stabilizer. So upgrade wise, I think Spyders squeak by with a win.

Modifications:

I don't know about you guys, but I love tinkering with my gun. From what I've seen, there are MANY more mods you can do to a Spyder than a Tippman, because the Spyder has a simpler design and easier accessed internals. Spyder wins here.

Overall:

Overall, you're going to get a better gun for the money with a Tippman. However, you're going to have a smaller, more versatile gun with the Spyder, as you can turn it into just about anything you want. I also think that the Spyder has a better capability of surpassing the Tippman in performance, but you've got to put more money into it to make it better. But like DasBaldDog said, no matter which one you think is better, be tolerant of the other one. Don't be a ******* about it.

[Mecca13]

As far as I'm concerned they both have there strong points just don't go bashing anyoneelses gun.

[Xander]

We all know that piranhas are the coolest weapons, but spyders are closer to piranhas than tippmans are so thats why i voted spyder!

[M98/Spyder]

Ive got both, granted its a low level spyder and a M98 and I like and the Tippmann better

[Codestar20]

I am going with Spyder on this one. Not just because I own one, but because it feels better to me. I am more of a front type close range player so that is why I have a Spyder. 4 of my friends have Tippys and I have shot one stock and one upgraded. The stock Tippy is a good gun for the price. One friend has the 98 with a flatline, scope, ex. chamber, and a stock. That gun is just way to big for my taste. It's more like a hunting rifle. But as far as upgrades go, I think Spyder wins by a longshot. Spyders are also easier to modify, clean, and maintain. The trigger pull on the Tippmann is great. The pull on Spyders is very long buy easy to get in a rhythm with. This thread is getting too long. That is my opinion so don't flame me for it.

[JesterDude15]

Yes...M98s are hunting rifles...yes...they need a LOT more help than just a drop Forward to fix it...

[Seifer-X]

dont get a cocker

[fate tempter]

they are both the f*cking same. let it go!