Auto paintball guns?

[Carlos Hathcock]

I am just wondering why they don't make mechanical automatics anymore. I know fully auto is on its way it but the fully auto feature on an electronic gun is still a major selling point to many people. I am just wondering why they have basically quit making them. I know there is the AT series of guns, which are fully auto and mechanical if I am not mistaken. But why aren't they made by a larger company?

[Letchworth40]

best selling point?? i dont think so... The best selling points are probably the ability to change the ROF in semi and turbo, or using locks. Tournys outlaw anything that is non semi and on most guns its faster to shoot in semi because the auto feature is set at 8bps at the factory.

[Carlos Hathcock]

I didn't say it was the best selling point, I said it was a major selling point to some people, mainly newbs. And like I said earlier, I know fully auto is on its way out. I just am wondering why fully auto mechanical guns have not been marketed by major companies.

[Congobongo]

plus most fields outlaw the use of full auto to

[Delutignot]

Well, the way i see it, to have a mechanical means of adjusting rate of fire, modes of fire, etc etc would require something way bigger than there is space in a hand held marker. Aside from size, the sheer number of moving parts would probably make it very difficult and expensive to maintain, not to mention manufacture. Using electronics is the smallest way, without any moving parts to break, and the circuitry can be somewhat easily replaced.

I don't think it'd be very efficient to make it mechanical.

[Lavahead]

The AT series of markers weren't actually developed for rec play as a primary use, they were developed for use for SWAT team and other close-combat training purposes, situations where range isn't a big issue, just response time and tactics. That's why they have the clip, to simulate the weapon the user would be using in a real situation. They simply market them to players for some extra money (fair enough). Their official ROF is 12 bps if I remember right. Here's their site. http://www.getrealpaintball.com/intro_set.html
Apparently they've started marketing to players more now, sorry. All the above is info I got from their older site. Anyway, yeah, lots of fields don't let people use full auto anyway, even though super fast electros with burst fire are allowed(?):confused: I heard the reason for this was insurance issues (again, :confused: ). Some places will allow them for scenario games, but that's about it. So there really isn't much of a market, and they probably cost more to make a reliable one than a regular gun with a new grip-basically the Spyder-style electro. Not that Spyder-type guns are bad, they just take the regular gun body and put a diferent grip frame on it and there you go, ELECTRO!

[FinnMcKool]

I still don't get why someone would want a gun like that anyway. Ans I also do't get how a non electric gun can go full auto, please explain this.

[CadaveriInumeri]

Burst mode is not allowed at most fields as well. The rule is NOT that full-auto is ilegal, the real rule is a bit more involved to prevent people from coming up with loopholes. I believe it states that for every SINGLE trigger pull, the 'gun may NOT fire more than one ball. Burst and Zip modes violate this rule.

[FinnMcKool]

they should make a gun that has enuf recoil to set off a very short trigger.thatd be nice

[TOWCHBob]

you can use a trigger clip http://www.firequest.com/catalog/trigger_system.html

[133+ Player]

The way things like reactive trigger work (i hear) is that they use some of the blow back air to recock and fire, or sumtin like that.

Also the main selling point to a little more exsperienced player is the electric trigger. With that people that are good with it (like twicho) can do 13bps in semi. That is the main selling point and the reason people don't like many full auto machinicals.

[CadaveriInumeri]

I don't know if it's universal, by the RT that can be fitted to a Model 98 works like this: Held in the grip is a small chamber that receives a bit of the air that originally just pushed the bolt back into the "ready" position. Protruding from the chamber is a small spring/rod combo, which is situated just behind the trigger. When you pull the trigger, the gas not only pushes the bolt back but it also shoves the spring/rob forward, which in turn pushes your trigger forward.

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