View Full Version : STUPID NEWBIES, I WISH I COULD PUNCH THEM IN THE MOUTH!!
elTwitcho
05-05-2001, 02:44 PM
While sorting through the god awful mess that is the "bad review" section, I'm starting to see a trend. That trend, is that nobody understands what bps means. I cant even count the number of people who claim "My Rebel LE shoots 12 bps if you have a fast finger" "My compact isnt as fast as an angel, but it can shoot 14 bps" "After shortening my trigger to .3mm I get 11 bps".
NO YOU DONT
If you've got a gun (electro) that allows you to adjust BPS, then you know how fast 10,11,12,14,16 sounds like. And I've never in my entire life heard a compact ripping off rounds at 10 balls per second, unless it wasnt recocking and the hammer was fling back and forth makin a mess of the breach. Sorry if I've offended anyone who thinks their compact shoots faster than a shocker or exaclibur, but I've gotta vent because this is nuts some of the things people are saying
Well I can see both sides. I started with a Spyder original and the upgrade to a Spyder Xtra made it seem like I was shooting 100 balls a second. I quickly thought about it and realized it wasn't doing this. They just need to think logically when they post these reviews. Remember these post are coming from guys who are not sure which end of the squeegee to use first.(my dumbest newbie mistake)
Skull
05-05-2001, 03:07 PM
I completely know what ur sayin... i've got a piranha pro with a lightened trigger pull, and i do have a fast finger, and i'll be lucky if i can get 7 bps. Theres almost no way that a semi could rip much more than that out at one time
Mr. Kitty
05-05-2001, 03:27 PM
I get like, 3 bps if i'm lucky..... seriously. My trigger pull is not adjusted at all and I don't have a revvy. 3 bps is actually as fast as I wanna go though........
Paint Bulley
05-05-2001, 04:15 PM
Why would you ever need to shoot 16 bps?
dawgs712
05-05-2001, 04:17 PM
i maintain that after counting "1 mississippi" no more than 10 shots can ever come out of a paintball gun until i see it. count it and really think about it.
orryn
05-05-2001, 04:35 PM
I timed myself, and I think I have pretty fast hands, and I could only pull 7 shots per second (didn't shot gun, just pulled trigger). I have a Rebel LE, and I don't think the gun could hold up that rate of fire for long. I'm guessing mebbe 5 bps, which is plenty fast for most purposes.
Richy_C
05-05-2001, 05:18 PM
tension on the trigger is lighter when you aren't shooting, but i know my micro can get 7 if i try
harrysacks
05-05-2001, 05:24 PM
a 9volt revvie can only get 6-8 bps, but shooting over 6 without a revvie or electro gun? thats hard to believe
MuckRaker
05-05-2001, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Paint Bulley
Why would you ever need to shoot 16 bps?
:D
Twitcho is a subscriber to the "Accuracy by Volume" theory.
ammoman
05-05-2001, 05:30 PM
I shoot like 2 balls a second....its not a slow gun but i have a very slow finger.....my friend can get like 5 or 6 a sec.....:D
Lord Delta
05-05-2001, 05:37 PM
Just so everyone knows, I am not only a member of the "Accuracy by volume" club, I am also the president. Only on the west coast we call it "Spray and Pray"
ry_goody
05-05-2001, 05:51 PM
I could shoot 11 balls per second with my PMI TITAN, I recorded my self shooting for exactly 1 second. Then I counted how many shots there were. Also, I can shoot a Model 98 2 or 3 bps more than my PMI TITAN because the model 98's trigger is 3 times lights and shorter. I know it sounds crazy to do, but you don't pull the trigger normally, you turn your hands sideways and then kind of vibrate your whole hand back and forth. It requires a little practice to do and alot of extensive practice to do reliably. But after a year of owning my PMI titan I could shoot 11 balls per second while holding it steady because whenever I had extra c02 I would practice until it runs out. Now I have my cocker and the trigger pull is way way lighter than anything else and, although I haven't recorded myself shooting to get a exact measurement, I know I can shoot it somewhere in the 16bps range because it outshoots the 12v revvy. But I can't do it quite as reliably on the cocker because I don't practice and don't have a need to practice because it is pointless to do it on a cocker because it outshoots the revvy.
MuckRaker
05-05-2001, 05:54 PM
My name is Steve Austin, and I can fire 2,894 BPS ... I am the Bionic Man.
Creek
05-05-2001, 06:02 PM
hmmmmm I see where my supperman act holds no bars to steve austin there,only I can kick austins butt lol:)
Dräko
05-05-2001, 06:26 PM
I dont think people think about what there saying.
bps... Balls per SECOND
now while your sitting at your computer open up your little clock and watch a couple seconds pass. Now 1, now another, now another.
Now...
get your gun and try to fire it 14 times in ONE SECOND, alot of people think that BPS is balls per 3 seconds or even 2 seconds. Without somekind of counter or an electro theres really no way the mind could keep track of how many balls you shoot in just ONE second, WHILE giving the command to your finger to pull in. It might be possible if your shotting at 4 or lower bps, but can you even count to 14 in one second i doubt it. Try it count from 1 to 14 in ONE second, tough eh? not tought impossible
20belowzero
05-05-2001, 08:34 PM
do u hate newbies, or just how they dont know much? seriously twitcho, newbies allow the sport to grow.
gouldpball
05-05-2001, 08:57 PM
yea...but hes talking about those newb's who think they can rule an angel with a Talon, its those people who dont learn from there mistakes, they improve the amount of mistakes. like for instance... my freind thinks he can take on my 3 man team with his poor old stock tippmann while 2 of us own timmys, i soon will be supporting my team with a 3rd timmy but i lauph when he thinks you dont need a better gun you need a better person. correct me if im wrong :confused:
FlyBoyNZ
05-06-2001, 06:46 AM
A better person should be the way to go.
gouldpball
05-06-2001, 08:14 AM
better person or better gun?
both matters, you can a little of both but you cant have just one, the person with the nest aim needs a good gun to aim with.
elTwitcho
05-06-2001, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by 20belowzero
do u hate newbies, or just how they dont know much? seriously twitcho, newbies allow the sport to grow.
Not at all bro. To be honest, I love being at the field with new players, because they usually ask questions and give you a chance to help em. You help them out and they've not only got a better chance of playing again, but they're more likely to be more helpful and sportsmanlike players as well. It's just getting nuts the kinds of claims these people are making. I've seen 14 bps in full auto, and that's difficult enough trying to get with a shortened electro trigger, let alone a PMI Piranha or whatever gun they claim to be using. Here's something to ponder (just for frame of reference)
http://www.ips.k12.in.us/pix/mpg/excal/excalibur-04.mpg
That's an mpg of auctionjunkie playing with his excalibur. That guns ROF is capped at 10.5 balls per second. You're telling me that a Spyder is shooting 3 balls per second faster than that? Somehow, I doubt it
orryn
05-06-2001, 10:07 AM
do you know where there are other movies like that? It was cool to watch.
martlet1
05-06-2001, 10:40 AM
i dont think 10 balls will feed out of a hopper that fast unless you have a electo hopper? I put 10 in my regular hopper and it took just over a second for them to all roll out with agitation. Now that is without even backing the balls up into the gun.
oh, and violence is a tool of the ignorant.
jizz186
05-06-2001, 12:28 PM
i hate people bragging about there balls per second, even though its ludacris how much they exagerate. ive got the response trigger on my tippman, and yea i really have no idea how many balls per second it can shoot maximum, maybe 10-14?. but who would actually shoot that fast and use that much paint with a tippmann. i have it set just right to where i can shoot off 2-3 round bursts, who needs more?? it annoys me when people say that they shoot 20+ shots per second with there RT kit.
i totally agre with you who needs 8bps of your shooting at a damn tree! The only time it counts is when you hit someone not how fast your gun is. lets face how good can a gun be if it is being used by a backstreet boy? not even an angel could save them in a paint fight against a mental deficent 2 year old. Its all about the player the rest is the gun...(there is the possibilty of a talon taking down a angel it just depends on who is using it)
ammoman
05-06-2001, 05:18 PM
I know...when I played today i was only firing in like 4 shot bursts..... and those were very accurate shots...now my friend was shootin 20 shots with every volley of fire.. even though he was only shootin a few balls a sec... but I would rather be accurate than fire 30000 balls a sec...its just also a plain waste of money.. now i might have lost today but I still only used 50 of my PMI Premiums..and my friend used all 200 of his Big Balls :D in the same game (which by the way lasted a frigen hour)....and also my friend has horrid accuracy..to show this..after the game we were shooting each other for the fun of it and when he went to shoot this one kid like 30 feet away, NOT EVEN MOVING,it took him 10 shots to actually get a hit...:eek: holy! #$@%!
ammoman
05-06-2001, 05:20 PM
he blames his stock barrel but I use my stock barrel and im fine...(i have a rebel bottomline and he has a spyder extra)
PetWoody
05-06-2001, 05:28 PM
oh, oh , i can shoot 14 bps.
..when i hold down the trigger in full auto mode.
ammoman
05-06-2001, 05:33 PM
hey! Petrified Woodrow shut your dang mouth...:D
ry_goody
05-06-2001, 06:02 PM
Alirght I know some of you people will not believe the fact that a spyder\tippmann or whatever can shoot 12 bps because it puts all you guys who spend 100's on electro guns to shame. BUT IT CAN!
orryn
05-06-2001, 06:14 PM
I'll believe that when I see it....:rolleyes:
jizz186
05-06-2001, 06:51 PM
ry_goody, i sort of agree. most of you people that defend their electro's and cut down are lower end guns, are possibly pissed off that a 300-400 (m98 w/ RT kit and accesories such as the ones in my sig) dollar gun can hold their own against theie unreliable 500+ electro gun, lets face it, tippmanns need a whole hell of alot less maintanence than an electo, but thats because its more complex. but i think this is also fed by users of tippmanns, spyder ect users who brag and cut down electro user. i can also see that if you play alot of tourny's and how maybe they think a blow back gun isnt for them. but howabout both sides just chill
gouldpball
05-06-2001, 06:56 PM
i still agree, we need to see it before we can believe it.
orryn
05-06-2001, 07:02 PM
I think blowbacks are great guns (play with one), and in the right hands they will get the job done. However, a fact is a fact, they cannot shoot as fast as an electro gun. On the other hand, I still do not know why someone needs to shoot 14+ bps, other than bragging rights. It is like having a car that can go from 0-60 in 4 secs. Great....but where ya gonna use it?
It is all about bragging rights. :)
hewy10
05-06-2001, 07:41 PM
i did a trigger job on my gun and shot it in the back yard and i was like wow thats fast then i went a played against two dark angels and then i realized it wasnt that fast. no matter what you do to a spyder it still wont hang with a good electro i dont think that the internal parts can keep up
elTwitcho
05-06-2001, 07:53 PM
Oh god, I've turned this into a "My 200 dollar gun is as good as your 1400 dollar gun". now I wish I could punch myself in the mouth... An RT tippman is fast, but to say a bushy/impulse/matrix/timmey or whatever high end gun is a waste because a blowback is as good, is nuts. I've seen psycho balistics Tippman Electro triggers, I was pretty impressed, amazed even, never thought a tippman could be that good. But am I upset and I rag on newbies because that gun is "on equal ground as mine", no, 'cause it aint. I just started this thread 'cause it was something I'd seen alot, and I wanted everyones opinion on it. It's not to "put newbies where they belong" so dont make it into that.
C4pyro
05-07-2001, 12:27 AM
I know you think you could pull your trigger on you titan fast and get 11 bps but lets think logically man...there is no way in H-E double hockey sticks that you could do it. I had an old tippmann prolite about 3 months ago and when I first got it I was able to totally outshoot the regular hopper. I thought that I was pretty fast with it. I upgrades to a rev loader and was totally fine but realistically on those types of guns your only going to get a max...and I mean max of 6-7 balls a second if you are really lucky. Its not that 6-7 balls isn't fast, even 5bps is not bad, the paint gets out when you need it. But later I upgraded to a shocker turbo and when that turbo first kicked in on me the first time I used it...it made my prolite look like a stocl gun man. As fast as you think you are ...I'm soory but your not. There are not many who are that fast...thats why there are all these little electronic toys out there to help people shoot like crazy cause the human body can only do so much. I am not trying to burst your bubble but lets just try and use some common sense man.
And the others are right. It doesn't always make a difference who can shoot the fastest. It does have a lot to do wiht skill. Even if you go to warpig you will see guys in speedball tourney's using sniper one's and two's. Its not always about speed but lets not delude ourselves about our capabilities.
C4pyro
05-07-2001, 12:33 AM
I forgot to say that its like twitcho said...it doesn't mean you suck...thats not what we are saying... for all we know you could see one of us at a field with our electro pistolas and kick our asses in a round...your paintball skill is not being put to the test...just the bps issue.
dawgs712
05-07-2001, 06:15 AM
to ammoman:
the spyder xtra stock barrel is mad good-tell yur frind he sux lol
I can shoot 14 BPS with my Timmy in semi-auto. That's of course when I adjust my trigger so short that the recoil causes it to fire again...pretty much making my gun full-auto all the time...
I dont know what you are all talking about... My Samuri can get 15+ balls a second! Heck I can get 200! well that is when I actually throw the marker and a full hopper!LOL (kidding about the 15+ too!) I jsut think that people need to learn how to aim and stop pulling off so dang many rounds!
DIRTY HARRY
05-07-2001, 10:08 AM
I've been playing paintball since 1987. I've used all sorts of markers. I still can't shoot faster than 5bps with a tricked out Extra.I am slow....so.....slow. I'm giving up, I can't hang with the 7bps people.
jizz186
05-07-2001, 12:48 PM
yea im really slow at ripping rounds. i cant really even shoot fast enough to be effective, my finger is really stiff. now i set my RT trigger to about what a moderately fast trigger finger person could do. 4-5 shots a second, but i usually just pull off 2-3 round bursts
Phaelon Veritas
05-07-2001, 01:30 PM
Well I must say I have been guilty of over estimating my rate of fire by 1-2 balls a sec. I have owned a pirahna with a trigger job a 2001 cocker and now a bushamster LCD and I will tell you from experience I have never seen a pirahna rip off more than 5-6 bps PERIOD !!!My cocker was lucky to pull 7 on a good day.But now that I have my bushmaster LCD and it fire 13bps You just never know how fast that actually is all of you with spyders claiming insane reates of fire take your 3mm trigger pull and turn that down to 1mm about the average of a mouse click now take your mouse and have some time you and try to reach over 8 clicks a sec it is damn hard my lcd a shot counter and I take 10 seconds from 0-10 andbegin pulling on the trigger furiously and could only reach 9 bps at best (on semi mode) now take that into consideration and figure how many shots you are truly firing.,.. I have had my bushmaster on full auto and cranked out 13 bps and let me just say I can'tmovemy finger that fast there is now way in hell someone with a mechanical trigger could ever pull that fast if you get the cahncedo a side by side comparison then you will understand eltwitcho's beef ....
ammoman
05-07-2001, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by dawgs712
to ammoman:
the spyder xtra stock barrel is mad good-tell yur frind he sux lol
Dawgs712 I didnt say that the xtra stock barrel sucked..I just was trying to show that my friend blames his bad accuracy on his barrel (which I meant that he was wrong of doing so)....so dont think I said the stock barrel sucked
ammoman
05-07-2001, 02:14 PM
and yes my friend is a bad playa! :D
dawgs712
05-07-2001, 02:36 PM
i know you didnt, it sounds like he did though. i sadi that cuz it seemed to be his excuse. you wanna see bad stock abrrel-check out the se-wow
elTwitcho
05-07-2001, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Imus
I can shoot 14 BPS with my Timmy in semi-auto. That's of course when I adjust my trigger so short that the recoil causes it to fire again...pretty much making my gun full-auto all the time...
That's called trigger bouncing, and I can do it too and get 14 bps, but that's a whole different argument :) As for actually pulling the trigger (bouncing is hard to do on command, not exactly practical during a game) I doubt I'll ever get 14 bps in semi, but I'm ok with that
paintballer56
05-08-2001, 05:30 PM
i agree
simon woodstock
05-09-2001, 11:59 AM
ok there's no way somebody w/ a piranha could shoot 14 pbs after i did a trigger job i filled my hopper w/ 24 balls, i had my brother w/ a stop watch, he told be to go and he started the watch at the same time it took 2.9 seconds to unload the 24 balls, that 8 bps, i tried more balls the next time but my co2 couldn't recharge fast enough, there as massive shootdown, and the balls chopped like mad about 1/2 way through the balls
elTwitcho
05-09-2001, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by simon woodstock
ok there's no way somebody w/ a piranha could shoot 14 pbs after i did a trigger job i filled my hopper w/ 24 balls, i had my brother w/ a stop watch, he told be to go and he started the watch at the same time it took 2.9 seconds to unload the 24 balls, that 8 bps, i tried more balls the next time but my co2 couldn't recharge fast enough, there as massive shootdown, and the balls chopped like mad about 1/2 way through the balls
And so Simon saw the light, and the townspeople rejoiced
DasBaldDog
05-11-2001, 06:34 AM
Let's do away with newbies. Yes I realize that will never work but let's give like liscense tests. Hmmmm....a "Non-Newbie Liscense"
The Billionare
05-21-2001, 02:26 PM
I think this thread has run it's coarse. I shoot 42.9 billion balls per second with my slingshot so don't tell me I cant do it faster with my piranha. I know how fast I shoot. Stupid oldies, I wish I could punch them in the mouth. 12 bps, that's for the birds. That's like pump days for this finger.
The Billionare
05-21-2001, 02:36 PM
Sorry twich I couldn't resist. I do agree with you though. It's just that when you're pulling a bps out of thin air, it's hard to pick a believable number. Yes that is an accusation, I am accusing these newbies of being LIERS!! down right out and out dirty low life LIERS! Anyway, you don't want your number to be too low, because you'll look like a wuse, and if it's too high, twich makes a thread like this! So everybody do like mr. woodstock and pull out a stop watch, fill your hopper with 200 rounds and empty it as fast as you can. Then average it out if you don't outshoot your cheezy 8 dollar hopper and see what you are actually shooting then post your review. I can outshoot the guns of naverone so don't get any dillusions of ever being better than the Billionare <- misspelled for a very specific reason by the way so when typing my well thought out and meaningfull alias, please misspell it correctly.
thanx,
nick
Chaser202
05-21-2001, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by MuckRaker
My name is Steve Austin, and I can fire 2,894 BPS ... I am the Bionic Man.
LOL.
mikek2111987
05-21-2001, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by The Billionare
Sorry twich I couldn't resist. I do agree with you though.
of course u agree,elTwitcho always makes a good point. ive never seen someone that disagreed with him :D
NICKYB
05-21-2001, 04:16 PM
I DISAGREE WITH HIM!!!!!!!! not really though
green_goblin
05-21-2001, 07:21 PM
I saw your cartoon lol
pr0kch0p
05-21-2001, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by ry_goody
I could shoot 11 balls per second with my PMI TITAN, I recorded my self shooting for exactly 1 second. Then I counted how many shots there were. Also, I can shoot a Model 98 2 or 3 bps more than my PMI TITAN because the model 98's trigger is 3 times lights and shorter. I know it sounds crazy to do, but you don't pull the trigger normally, you turn your hands sideways and then kind of vibrate your whole hand back and forth. It requires a little practice to do and alot of extensive practice to do reliably. But after a year of owning my PMI titan I could shoot 11 balls per second while holding it steady because whenever I had extra c02 I would practice until it runs out. Now I have my cocker and the trigger pull is way way lighter than anything else and, although I haven't recorded myself shooting to get a exact measurement, I know I can shoot it somewhere in the 16bps range because it outshoots the 12v revvy. But I can't do it quite as reliably on the cocker because I don't practice and don't have a need to practice because it is pointless to do it on a cocker because it outshoots the revvy.
wow ry_goody you are more retarded than i first suspected
please come to hit n run so i can beat you up, love CE :D
it doesn't matter what gun you own if you suck...i could own the baddest most expensive marker know in all the land, but if i suck, then it doesn't matter. i've seen people with pumps taking out people with autos. if the gun is so important, then why do i see the people with the phat guns sitting around in the dead zone?
the person who initionally said this(page 1) is obviously a paint mule and a *****, how else would you explain this statement? by the sounds of it, he probably has the flatline and put hundreds of dollars of mommy's and daddy's money into it, and is *****in because he got gunned down my some 12 year old kid with a "better gun". get over it.
you talk of newbies messing up the game...what the hell were you when you started out? i know, you must have been great one shot paintball guru, that me and the rest of the tribe heard about as we were growing up. it is said in the legend he knew everything about the sport before you could even walk, that all men will follow his teachings and become one with his gun....sound about right?
i would bet that me and two of my friends could take you on with nothing but sidearms and still kick your butts.
Originally posted by The Billionare
Sorry twich I couldn't resist. I do agree with you though. It's just that when you're pulling a bps out of thin air, it's hard to pick a believable number. Yes that is an accusation, I am accusing these newbies of being LIERS!! down right out and out dirty low life LIERS! Anyway, you don't want your number to be too low, because you'll look like a wuse, and if it's too high, twich makes a thread like this! So everybody do like mr. woodstock and pull out a stop watch, fill your hopper with 200 rounds and empty it as fast as you can. Then average it out if you don't outshoot your cheezy 8 dollar hopper and see what you are actually shooting then post your review. I can outshoot the guns of naverone so don't get any dillusions of ever being better than the Billionare <- misspelled for a very specific reason by the way so when typing my well thought out and meaningfull alias, please misspell it correctly.
thanx,
nick
you obviously can't spell LIAR either...dumb*ss.
C4pyro
05-21-2001, 10:09 PM
Yo...I think you shouyld really watch what you said...because if I am reading correcrtly, the things you said in your last two post were aimed at twitch...and well...whether you think he's right or wrong...you always lose against a moderator...in a forum anyways...and anyways we aren't trying to say people suck here...we are just saying that when it comes to rate of fire...you can't tell me that your titan can shoot 14 balls a second...its impossible...so just try and show a little respect. No I don't always agree with twitch...but he ussually makes some valid points....and like in your case if he really pisses me off...which he hasn't yet so now worries...then just keep your mouth shut...more people here like twitch then you.
elTwitcho
05-22-2001, 04:53 AM
lol, I stop reading a post for 3 days and it turns on me, my beatiful creation... like a few people have said already, get out the stopwatches, Almost nightly I pull about about 2000 shots on my trigger with the gun on but no air. Start a timer, pull away for 10 seconds, look at the shot counter and figure out your BPS. Fastest I've ever gotten was an even twelve (stopped right at 120) and believe me that's hard. Just try it with a timer, and you guys can appreciate how fast the quotes you're giving actually are. Not that there's anything wrong with not shooting a hopper every time you blink, I let my bro use my timmy and still eliminated alot of players using a PMI Titan with no revvy and a messed up elbow that jammed constantly, in the end your BPS isnt gonna make or break your game, it'll make a difference, but not that much of one that you cant play competitively using a blowback
Longbow_UMD
05-22-2001, 07:30 AM
Just a little RoF comparison here.
Did everybody see "T2: Judgement Day"? Remember the minigun? That's the GE M-134. It has an adjustable cyclic rate of 1000-10000 rpm. That's about 17-170 rps. The gun wrangler had to modify the gun to shoot SLOWER than 17 so it wouldn't sound like a monotone buzz. According to him, the gun was shooting around 11 or 12 rps as seen on film.
Now think "Predator." That the exact same gun, the M-134, NOT mechanically slowed down, and shooting at 17-20 rps. Notice how you can't differentiate between individual shots fired.
And you thought that was fast. And they didn't have to pull the trigger every time they wanted to fire.
Practical upshot? You "I get 15 bps on my Stingray" people are INSANE!
C4pyro
05-22-2001, 11:40 AM
Its all in people mind...you think you can shoot fast but you just don't know how to attach the proper number to it. I have a shocker turbo...I usually play just in semi....when I first got it I thought...holy crap I am shooting fast...but I was probably only shooting 7 balls a sec...then for the hell of it I threw it into turbo for the first time and I was blown away...And the shocker shoots only a max of 11.25 balls a second...Those of you who know shockers know that in turbo the basically go full auto to the max rate of fire...It is hard to get your rate up there...but when you see guns actually shoot at 12-14 balls a second and then compare it to what you shoot...you will know the truth and the truth will set you free...hahahaha
Originally posted by c4pyro
Yo...I think you shouyld really watch what you said...because if I am reading correcrtly, the things you said in your last two post were aimed at twitch...and well...whether you think he's right or wrong...you always lose against a moderator...in a forum anyways...and anyways we aren't trying to say people suck here...we are just saying that when it comes to rate of fire...you can't tell me that your titan can shoot 14 balls a second...its impossible...so just try and show a little respect. No I don't always agree with twitch...but he ussually makes some valid points....and like in your case if he really pisses me off...which he hasn't yet so now worries...then just keep your mouth shut...more people here like twitch then you.
i could careless who likes who, obviously you don't know how to keep YOUR mouth shut. i was only trying to make a point. there is no right or wrong especially if it's someones OPINION and to be so naive to think that the moderator could never be wrong just goes to show me and everyone else that you're a complete moron, that you have no thoughts of his own, and everyone that reads this will know what a jack*ss you are. to agree with someone because of who or what he "is" makes you his B*TCH.
none of anything i wrote was directed to you, yet you felt a need to defend someone who is obviously old enough to defend himself. opinions are like a-holes because everybody's got one.
as far as the titan goes...i don't even own one and to direct a statement towards something that i didn't even write makes you a idiot as well. so why don't you show a little respect and suck my D*CK.
Originally posted by orryn
I think blowbacks are great guns (play with one), and in the right hands they will get the job done. However, a fact is a fact, they cannot shoot as fast as an electro gun. On the other hand, I still do not know why someone needs to shoot 14+ bps, other than bragging rights. It is like having a car that can go from 0-60 in 4 secs. Great....but where ya gonna use it?
It is all about bragging rights. :)
if you are at a stop light and right after the stop light the road goes straight into a 55 mph zone and you were at the front of the line at the stop light, then you could use it. :)
hmmmm... apparently the idiots in this forum are breeding faster than the rest of us. jk, i think everyone here has made a valid point except for those of you who think your stock blowbacks can shoot 11+ balls a sec. I've been playing with the same trigger pull for about a year and i max out at 7 bps. How do I know? I went to a chrono with a bps feature and shot my gun over it, the little number came up 7 and I was fanning the trigger FAST AS HELL!
C4pyro
05-25-2001, 02:35 PM
Well Yo...apparently you can't read or interpret anything anyone says so I'll break down what I was saying to you so you and your grade two reading and comprehension level can understand.
First I was not "defending twitcho's view"...all I was saying to you is that if you piss off a moderator buy bashing him...he will boot your a$$...I don't always agree with what twitcho says...read it...it says it don't matter if what he says is right or wrong...just show some mother f**king respect...(sorry moderator) No the mod will not always be right but its the showing of respect to everyone that counts...the fact that you would say and direct that stuff DIRECTLY towards a mod shows how stupid you really are...And the stuff about the titan was a metophor...it was stuff others...not you...had said in the past...I was giving it to you as an example...so I don't know who left that big broom stick up your a$$ but just chill abit and don't try to show how big your balls are by tearing into people...no one will give a damn about your opinion if you treat everyone else like crap....especially the mods...
[Edited by c4pyro on 05-25-2001 at 06:43 PM]
Hey guys chill out. It's not worthing arguing with people on this forum, trust me Hsuve and I butted heads one time. You can't actually solve the problem so I would stop but hey its up to you
please read carefully before you reply.
what you failed to realize is that i never actually bashed this twitch dude. if you read why this was brought up in the first place go look at "gouldpball" and see what he had to say, then talk to me about how i dissed the moderator. nothing i wrote was directed to the moderator.
and the comment about you can't spell LIAR either was towards the billionare(yes he spells it this way) for humors sake.
so before you get all pissy with me, you should show me a little respect, and an apology (i don't really care if you apologize) since nothing that you have written is backed up by any facts. all I was saying to you is that if you piss me off buy bashing me for no reason...i'll boot your a$$ off.
harrysacks
05-25-2001, 08:51 PM
i dont think u have the authority to boot anyone, since ure not a mod and all
this guy started with me for no reason. and the boot your *ss off comment is just quoted from what he had to write to me.
harrysacks
05-25-2001, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by yo
this guy started with me for no reason. and the boot your *ss off comment is just quoted from what he had to write to me.
alrighty then
elTwitcho
05-25-2001, 09:28 PM
Please relax guys. This has been mostly good discussion and I'd hate to have to close this
Richy_C
05-28-2001, 03:48 PM
right.... ok ....... ;)
TheMuRph1018
05-28-2001, 04:01 PM
You would chop balls like a mofo if it was that fast. Unless you have some space age feeder. I doubt the AGD loader can keep up with 26 bps.
ammoman
05-28-2001, 04:49 PM
wow! well I shot 26 BPS with my stingray also so booh-yah! :D
Paint Bulley
05-28-2001, 05:01 PM
mabye he meant shots per second, but still that would be hard
Stealthy_Yellow
05-28-2001, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by elTwitcho
Not at all bro. To be honest, I love being at the field with new players, ... It's just getting nuts the kinds of claims these people are making.
In the motorcycle world, the "Newbie" is the first one, the person naive, asking questions, over cautious. These often evolve into "squids", These are the people on the sport bike, wearing a paint matched racing helmet; followed by shorts, tshirt, and tevas.
The squids are the newbies that think they know what they are talking about.
elTwitcho
05-28-2001, 09:26 PM
So you're saying I'm a newb that doesnt know what he's talking about?
elTwitcho
05-28-2001, 09:27 PM
Oh nm, I see what you're saying
cdbbombsoverbaghdad
05-29-2001, 12:33 AM
ok first off i am not even gonna say something as stupid as my gun shoots at such and such bps who cares?
the question u should be asking is how many can i shoot during an ACTUAL GAME?
and it is not the gun it is the person because anybody with any gun can bunker somebody who isn't paying attention to his surroundings for 4 or 5 seconds.
Stealthy_Yellow
05-29-2001, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by elTwitcho
So you're saying I'm a newb that doesnt know what he's talking about?
No, I'm saying there is a difference between Newbies and Squids... you are talking about Squids...not newbies.
Richy_C
05-29-2001, 12:22 PM
if you think about it 5 bps is quite fast, try counting thatin a secound, and you'll see, its fast enough
The Billionare
05-29-2001, 12:36 PM
and the comment about you can't spell LIAR either was towards the billionare(yes he spells it this way) for humors sake.
Hey, leave me out of this. No one is bloody perfect. I can spell just as well as the rest of you people. Everyone on here has mispelled a word at one point in time or another. Twitch and every other forum surfer will agree that spelling bashing is a pointless hypocritical waist of time. And, YO, thanx for misspelling my name correctly as I instructed on this thread on page two after reading what simon posted, which, by the way, was a very obvious and logical solution. The spelling of my name was directed at simon. He never misspells my name correctly. I think he is trying to tell me that I suck at spelling, but that doesn't anger me, I just hate the fact that there is an "i" in billionaire so I took it out.
thanx,
nick "the ****" bradley
elTwitcho
05-29-2001, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Stealthy_Yellow
Originally posted by elTwitcho
So you're saying I'm a newb that doesnt know what he's talking about?
No, I'm saying there is a difference between Newbies and Squids... you are talking about Squids...not newbies.
Yeah I figured it out
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