View Full Version : To Bunker a Newbie or Not (Poll)
Ive done it, not to newbies who's first time out it was. I'll usually wait a few games seeing what his or her weakness's are, then do it.
C4pyro
05-08-2001, 10:14 AM
I say only if he deserves it cause your eally don't want to give the guy/gal a bad first experience, but if he's all cocky and being a total punk like he thinks he's god of the field, then feed it to him.
memph bLeek
05-08-2001, 10:23 AM
i got bunkered in my first game of paintball and from then i decided i loved paintball because i wanted to bunker others. i spread the wealth by viciously bunkering every and all newbies i see (j/k)
c4pyro, thats exactly my theory
iipaintballer
05-08-2001, 11:06 AM
I really dont see a problem with bunkering a newbie. But I would do one of 2 things.
1. Give them the Surrender option. Which is pretty cool in itself. To be screaming "GIVE IT UP!!" at the top of your lungs with a marker in their face.
2. Dont shoot them too many times. Once is enough.
Bunkering is part of the game. Just dont hurt/scare them so bad that they dont want to come back.
C4pyro
05-08-2001, 11:07 AM
Yeah, we don't want to people hating the sport because they came for a birthday party and got hosed be a vet, but if they think they are the almighty, they need to realize that there is always someone better and more experienced.
elTwitcho
05-08-2001, 11:09 AM
Bunkering newbies... no, it just aint right. As for bunkering other players, I'll do it even if they arent jerks. You dont bunker someone to get even with them, or put em down, you bunker them to remove them from the game. If I bunker someone, they know it's no more personal than if I nailed him from across field, and I feel the same when i get bunkered (Which is never :) )
Mirot87
05-08-2001, 11:29 AM
what exactly do you mean by 'bunkering'
yes im a newbie.
TheMuRph1018
05-08-2001, 11:48 AM
Im pretty sure its when you leen over the bunker and shoot them at close range. Never happens in rec ball though. Only if there are experienced people on the field and they do it to each other.
elTwitcho
05-08-2001, 11:50 AM
Copy and paste owns. For example
. To bunker someone, you in effect use the person's bunker against them. Think about it. When you are in your bunker, you really don't know a whole lot of what is going on in front of your bunker unless you can see through some cracks or if you have a good back player shouting out what is going on in the game. You may be safe from incoming paintballs behind the safety of your bunker, but you are still venerable because you can't see everything. Meanwhile, some guy on the other team knows exactly where you are, AND knows that you probably can't see him. To "bunker" you, he just has to get up, run at your bunker, come over the top, or side and shoot you out. Simple enough? Maybe, but bunkering is really an art. I suggest that there are three types of bunkering moves. There is the strategic bunker move, distraction bunkering, and then there is the last resort bunkering. Really though, almost all bunkering is a result of "last resort". If you could shoot the guy out without having to get him and run down on his bunker you probably would. Most of the time we can't do this, so we resort to bunkering. The strategic bunker move is what almost everyone tries to do, but does incorrectly. Look at this situation. It is a 10 on 10. You get up, bunker some guy, and get shot out. Now it is a 9 on 9. Have you really gained anything? Maybe, but the odds are still pretty much even. In a strategic bunker move, you don't just bunker any guy on the field. You probably have some sort of plan in mind. Maybe a head of time you said to yourself, "If the other team gets in that bunker at the start of the game, they has to be bunkered."
Mirot87
05-08-2001, 11:51 AM
If someone did that to me and im new, i would take it personal and perhaps not get a good view of paintballers in general.
At least if youre going to do it to a newbie, try to be friends afterwards.
elTwitcho
05-08-2001, 12:03 PM
Usually there are easier ways to take out newbies than bunkering. Experienced players I find dont really mind it, and as a front player, i dont get bunkered much. I've got back players covering me :) As for those guys, well when all us front guys are out, and there's 2 of them, and 5 on the other team, they're gettin bunkered. Oh well, sometimes it's good to be the first out
DIRTY HARRY
05-08-2001, 12:48 PM
To bunker or not to bunker. That is the question. I couldn't bring myself to bunker some poor kid who's playing his first game with a rental. Everyone else....that's paintball.
Richy_C
05-08-2001, 01:18 PM
If he/she has mad skill and wants to learn it all, i'll sick it to em and explain it later. But if its regular johnny pop renter, i'll shoot his foot, or anything else hanging out of his bunker
ammoman
05-08-2001, 01:49 PM
I am a newbie and if someone did that to me....WAIT! I forgot I usually go in the front...not the back...hehe! :D
Holiday
05-08-2001, 02:15 PM
im a newbie too, although i have had many chances to 'bunker' other newbies i didnt know that was legal... i thought you had to tell them to surrender anywhere inside ten feet. now i have an option when a guy pops up from behind some tire and raise havoc on my team, hurray!
I voted no but I have seen some newbies do some evil sh1t to other people! I watched a newbie shoot anther moderate player in the back like 5 times (playing pump that is a grip of hits) in the back! I wouldnt but if he angered me I have to say ya.. I would... but safely!(NO GOGGING!)
blinkpk11
05-08-2001, 06:21 PM
i probably woulnt bunker a newbie unless they were making fun of me. then id bunker them but only a 1 shot bunker. anything over that is over kill. i got bunk with ten balls once. that hurt like hell.
Kornithium
05-08-2001, 07:03 PM
NAH! UNLOAD ON HIM!!! Waste his *** and teeach him a lesson!
Thats teh only way they can learn... thats the only way i learned not to run across a ridge ... i still hurt from it.
elTwitcho
05-08-2001, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Holiday
im a newbie too, although i have had many chances to 'bunker' other newbies i didnt know that was legal... i thought you had to tell them to surrender anywhere inside ten feet. now i have an option when a guy pops up from behind some tire and raise havoc on my team, hurray!
Some fields force you to use a mercy rule. You may not be alowed to bunker at your field, so be sure to check first
Creek
05-09-2001, 12:12 AM
Well I found that out friday at the locale field here.Got too give the guy 10 feet. I ran up on him Lean over and grab his marker barrel with my hand and put the barrel of my marker on his head. Never pop off a shot .After that I gave the 10 feet.The rest off the nite I back off.
The guy was kinda a newbie I guess. Now he thought it was a cool move,Me I felt kinda bad about the whole deal.A few games later I almost did it too 2 guys behind one bunker back off hit one at 10 feet but got taken out at the same time.
simon woodstock
05-09-2001, 10:47 AM
normally (in my experience) you don't have to resort to bunkering newbies, most times they'll have a butt or foot hanging out. Here's the scenario, what if the kids mom is letting him go to the field for his birthday to test out his new BE stingray. Then some guy who's been playing for 5 years yuns up right to his bunker while the kid is tryign to figure out how to shoot the dern thing and he gets shot in the face 10 times, you think he's gunna go back to that field? you think he's gunna even wanna play another game? i mean there's no way i'd wanna bruise up some little kid, shoot him in the foot or in the hopper, save your expensive paintballs for a challenge
blake_sw
05-09-2001, 11:00 AM
Silly Newbies, Trix are for Skids! Ya, it's true that if you wait long enough a newbiew will surely make a mistake (ie. leave his butt hanging out). I've been playing for about 5 years and I would only bunker a newbie if he was over 14. For some reason I don't feel as satisfied when I bunker a little kid, it's TOO easy, like walking up to a blind man and pushing him down. Hmm
hmm.. some good responses. I wouldnt bunker: a kid who was half my (sizeblake_sw good point), a first timer thats just mean. But if he/she thought they where paintball god (taking my title :) ) I'd bunker them just to show them (like you said c4pyro) theres always someone better. Thanks for keeping the responses in line with the question, I've seen these things get WAY out of hand.
mefunny
05-10-2001, 09:51 PM
I say don't. Becuase if you do bunker them you might shoot them in the neck and they might not play paintball ever agian. You dont want to give a newbie a bad experince of paintball.
ry_goody
05-11-2001, 01:41 PM
Well, me being 15 years old I would not bunker a newbie thats younger than me. However, someone who is like 16+ I will bunker them no matter what.
Magnus55
05-13-2001, 01:19 AM
hehe nce theory, but I gotta argue with it though. Little kids aren't the only newbies. Once in a while at my local field there are one or two middle aged men going trhough mid-life crises (plural for crisis, I think), trying to prove that they are just as tough as the young guys. I would feel bunkering a guy my dad's age. In short, A newbie is a newbie no matter what their age. An experienced player should be able to see their ability through the player's actions and equipment.
Oh by the way Muck, you don't have to prove anything. We know your tough. ;)
sirhc1210
06-06-2001, 02:54 PM
I would bunker them then just fire co2 instead of paint! It would scare the cr@p outta them! Then i would tell them they are out.
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