Spoiled newbies!!!

[WillyC2106]

The one thing I hate other then wiping is a spoiled newbie. I have known and met so many newbies whos first gun is a ripper timmy to angels and tricked cockers . I've been playing for a while and the best gun I could save up for is a EM1. Thier parents buy them top of the line guns for doing nothing. I'm not trying to make fun of or direct bad comments to newbies or fellow paintballers.I was just wondering if anyone who has ran into the same problem. I do respect the newbies if you where just wondering that.:pissed: :pissed:

[Paint Bulley]

that's why you do good, in school, get a good job, and invest wisely so when you have a kid, you can get him a nice marker and have everyone hate him, and be jelous of him....

Dont blame the kid, blame the parents.

(and no im not one of those kids, parents dont buy me jack)

[AK47]

Ive seen 10 yr olds with magics, If your better, hold your head high.

[curt]

i have bought everything myself to:)

[WillyC2106]

You guys hit it right on the money we all work hard to get our paintball stuff. Oh yeah I do get Decent grades A's and B's work friday and sunday nights and paintball on sundays with what little green I have.

[VeNoM]

ya, parents feel good for helping their children by getting them things they want . . . its not always right or fair, but why worry about it? play the game and dont beach about what other people are shooting . . .

[Guillotine]

yeah, it is nice to be able to say that you have paid for everything yourself(I can...)

but, I sure would love to have my rents give me 2000 so I could get myself a nice IR3 and a good N2 tank, that sure would be nice(and all you "I paid for everything myself, so I am better than you" holier than thou attitudes, c'mon, admit it, if someone gave you an IR3 for free(or other high end gun that you have always wanted) would you not accept?)

[Blazestorm]

It's more fun shooting a talon.

Because when you do hit someone, you get to rub it in their face, they got hit by a talon :D :D :blah: :crazy: :laugh:

[NSUCK]

I saw a kid the other day, he has a brand new Angel, WITH a NORMAL hopper, this kid is such a n00b, he knows nothing about paintball, has no pack etc.. he stays in the back, and shoots 1 ball at a time, scare to pop out of his bunker.. i hate that kind of stuff

whats even worse is the kids that just get that brand new gun and think there good... I ref at a field and that annoys me the most.. (other than getting shot)

the other day a kid comes out with a brand new timmy (granted hes not a n00b and its not his first gun) but his attitude sucks.. he yells at people saying things like

PLAYER YOU KNOW YOUR ELIMINATED etc etc

and I hate the kids that cuss every chance they get... like HEY GET THE F*** OUT I HIT YOU ON THE F***IN PACK MOTHER F***ER so annoying..

[SkunkTeeth]

my parents teach me how to spend money right and how to manage it. they dont go buying me anything I want, i have to save for it or wait for a birthday or xmas. i think all parents should do this as it teaches children responsibility and money management. even though they could go buying me angels and crap they wont, because thye dont want to spoil me :)

[NSUCK]

i think money management should be common sence... i mean you should learn a few things on ur own, but please.. ur parents dont need to teach you how to manage YOUR money, do with it as you please and learn as you go along...

[SkunkTeeth]

i can buy what i want but they dont go buying me stuff whenever i want

[halB]

those kids infest my field. i swear one of these days im just gonna bunker one of those rich kids and while they surrender steal their marker.

[WillyC2106]

The funniest thing to see is a noob with a nice cocker break it after the first time they use it and spend more time trying to fix it then play paintball.:laugh: :D :laugh:

[WillyC2106]

I do bunker those kids but with out saying surrender more like shooting in the back a few times then wacthing them B!#&* about thier gun not working or if I did so and so or my team sucks or something like that.

[WillyC2106]

Most of these guys dont even know how to snap shoot or know what a stand up beer can is or know what it means when some says the back left lay down is hot. They call them shevles out on a bounce.

[WillyC2106]

Some of these guys waste paint like crazy and have no skill . Thiers an old saying for noobs who waste paint " ONE CASE ONE KILL".:laugh:

[akur8sh0t]

If you expect your parents to buy you ANYTHING when you could work for it and get it yourself, then you're spoiled. Wether it be a Brass Eagle Blade, or an Orracle(you expected me to say angel didnt you?).

Go mow somebodys yard or something. Make some money, buy it yourself

[AK47]

Il rather just have $100 for my own thing and work for a marker, its more satisfying if you work and get rewarded for it.

[SkunkTeeth]

its all about mowing lawns :)

[Blazestorm]

Another way to get paintball money yay!

Babysitting
Mowing Lawns
Washing Cars

w00t, wonder what I could buy at the end of the summer. ;)

[Paint Bulley]

you want money... you in highschool? they always have a list of jobs in the career center.

Throwing DEAD ducks also is semi-fun and you get $50 a day, so not bad.... some times it is really easy, and some times really hard. i've done 13 hours and 5 hours... all for $50 it doesnt change :) wierd

[joshthefrosh]

so i shouldnt get an autococker? i should get a brasseagle gun? whoa, maybe if i hold off even longer i will have saved up enough to buy that warped sports dark angel lcd only to be flammed by all you guys. i dont know maybe those kids did something to deserve a nice marker. or maybe there like my spoiled rich mormon neighbors with their dam dirtbikes and jet skis throwing their backpacks in the path of my $500 gas rc car having to hide my marker when i practice seeing them look over to see what the pop sound is :pissed: so am i not suposed to have nice things because it LOOKS like i suck i dont mean i suck i got rid of my spyder to get a basic vert autococker but im just trying to make a point dont be like my spoiled rich neigbors wearing their abrocrombie and fitch wait there is nothing wrong with that. i guess dont be a brat and dont get all jelous about some little kids fancy electronic gun from europe just light that person up no dont because their beginners and thats mean

[Blazestorm]

Speak proper grammer er grammar.

I sense make none of what speak you.

[Dr. Isotope]

Hey Josh... all those weird little symbols that aren't letters are called punctuation... Aren't they neat? :rolleyes:

[Scarecrow]

Everyones seen these kids. I remember two brothers with cockers who must've been 15. Not a scratch on the marker, brand new goggles, etc...

Of course they aren't good, no parent can buy you skill. Don't hold it against them though. The parents don't know anything about PB, they just walk up to the counter and say "Jr. here wants to play, whaddya got?" And the lightbulb above the clerks head reads "$$$$" and 1500 later Jr.'s got an Angel.

If the kids smart (which they won't be right away) they'll learn sportsmanship, how to care for their marker, and they'll become good players. Maybe after they get bunkered once they give it all up... another cocker collects dust.

The parents just want to get the kid whats the "best." I don't blame the parents or the child. Lord knows I wish my pops would've hooked me up with all the good toys, but just because he couldn't doesn't mean I'm gonna hold it against the kid that has everything I want.

You see a kid with the gear but not the skill, take him under your wing and show him there's more to paintball then throwing paint.

The Exceptions to Every Rule:

A) The father that thought the cocker would take care of itself, and flew off the handle when the airsmith said it should probably be cleaned. (Forgot to read the intructions eh?)

B) The grownups (youg adults) who try to buy their way into the game, and don't give a crap about the sport. These are the guys with the Angels that keep up the full auto ten seconds after the games over, and consistently overshoot people.

[teso_tom_green]

are you telling me you wouldn't take a nice gun your parents bought for you and WANT you to have? i think you would.

edit - no, my parents didn't buy my -USED- gun. i worked for it myself, by reffing at working at an embarrassing part time job, so back off. :p just making a point.

also, if you're gonna come back with "well still they are newbies and can't play" then show em a thing or two about the game. if you're so good and you busted your butt for an angel or a nice cocker, you should have enough honor to atleast give them some friendly tips. people at my field own expensive guns and just yell at the new guys (even without the good guns). They put them down and hurt their feelings instead of talking things out with them, and giving em tips.

[Bodyguard]

My 2 cents worth, let The Flaming begin!
**********************************

No matter whether they have a $20.00 Wal-Mart gun or a $2500.00 Custom made gun, the point is they are interested in and supporting the sport of paintball.

Why not try to become a Teacher, Instructor,Mentor for these newbs instead of being jealous, or critical.

At the field where I play and Ref there are a lot of these Kids/Newbs with expensive and cheap equipment,who cares? We all started somewhere.

Sure some of them are Spoiled Brats that just want high dollar guns and equipment because they can afford them,who cares? Try to help them appreciate that it takes more than a high dollar gun to be a good player.We have a few that have made awesome players with just a little time and attention.

No you cant buy skill, but its a lot harder to learn skills if someone that does have skills would rather make themselves look better by bunkering a newb or making fun of them than helping out with a little knowledge and instuction. Why not help out a kid that is trying to learn and grow in the sport. The kid you are planning to bunker or make fun of COULD have been you when you started.

I am very happy for all those kids/young people that have nice equipment whether they had it give to them or worked for it.

I am also just as happy for the kid that cant afford a high dollar gun or may be from a broken family and only has a Talon. That kid is just as proud of his Talon as the kid with the new Angel.

These Kids/Young People/Newbs may not become World Cup players or even play longer than a couple weeks,but one thing for sure is they do represent the future players of the sport.

If we look down, pass judgment or make fun of anyone because of their age, the price of their equipment or whether they bought it or it was give to them, then we are destroying the sport of Paintball from the inside out.

[akur8sh0t]

I dont think anyone here is putting down any newbies for whatever kinda gun they have. They're focusing on the newbies who come up to players who obviously have more skill than they do and start flexing because they have a nice gun.

Personally, i dont care what kinda gun you have. I'll play against someone with an Orracle and use a Blade if i dont have anything else to play with, just because I love playing the game.

And to answer someones quesiton earlier, of course i'd use a gun my parents brought me. Although if it's a higher end gun, i'd rather have brought it myself, just so i can say HEY, i paid for it myself :) (and that, young people, you'll understand as you grow up). However, even if they got me a low end pump from walmart, guess what? I'd still put it to use, because i'm appreciative of whatever i get.

Also, you make a good point about teaching newbies. I encourage everyone to do so. But it does make it hard to do that when some newbie gets cocky with you. So just try to keep your cool.

[Bodyguard]

That is a point well taken.

I Have seen Newbs cop an attitude when they showed up at the field when a more experienced player tried to give them advice.

We always just smile and after they realize that the high dollar gun wont save them on the field they usually lose the attitude. Remember Talk is Cheap.

Dont go out trying to teach them a lesson or crush them, just try to be patient and set a good example as far as Sportsmanship.

[billabongboy]

I agree with you all, new players shouldnt show up wit all the high end stuff...In every sport or hobby i have, I thoroughly enjoy paying for all my equipment, it give me great satisfaction. I just got into paintballing in the past 6 months. i didn't have a gun till a little while ago(2 months) But i would just use my friends old stuff....even tho they would whoop up on me, I still loved it...
I just bought my own gun, like i said up there, but my parents helped alittle...I spent around 600 for everything i needed(gun, mask, hopper, co2, case of paint, pack n pods) my parents payed for 250 of the 600...But i had to work around the house to get the 250 outa them. All im saying is its cool if your parents help you out a little bit to get some gear. BUT when they go all out and buy it all for you and get you the most expensive stuff, not to cool in my opinion.

[Dr. Isotope]

The problem essentially comes down to this: thousand dollar Angel or not, you can't buy your way past the learning curve. I come from a time of 10-round tubes, 12 grams, and having to pump-- and it wasn't because we were playing stock-- it's just all there was.

So we evolved as the sport evolved. Players today, for better or for worse, have the opportunity to buy themselves "veteran" equipment... but they cannot buy themselves experience. And that is what will always show through.

A player who picks up a 13bps gun on day one may never learn fire discipline. And that is something of a shame.

[FinnMcKool]

I worked for a year and a half of hard lawn work to get my 400$ for my Black Dragun and thats a low end gun. I've seen kids with the latest Pirahnas and such that they ask me to fix for them, you should see some of these the bolt and hammer coated in paint shells, and twigs and jest about anything. God makes me shudder.

[Ebonclaw]

Woah, $400 for a Black Dragon? You overpayed man, but still, you bought it yourself, so that's cool. On the one hand, I am increasingly frustrated at busting my butt at a degrading minimum wage job that Uncle Sam takes some of what little I make away and having to buy equipment with that, whereas Johnny gets grandma to buy him a DarkMatrixIRCockermadator with WDP Angel A.I.R. modified to be an electronic flatline tank, with color coordinated HALO and....oh, I could go on, but you get the point.....but on the other hand, not every 13 year old has time for mowing lawns, especially in conjunction with schoolwork, so I feel a parent should contribute to some degree. But handing your kid a $2500 gun when neither you nor your kid know anything about paintball is ludicrous, and ill money management on the part of the parent.
I guess the real reason people hate the rich little spoiled brats is one of two reasons:
1) They're jealous
2) The spoiled brat has an $1800 gun and a serious attitude to go with it, and maybe a peso's worth of maturity with which he is now yielding his massive firepower. You run into little kids who have no maturity and give them a gun that requires maturity, and expect the result to be pleasant? No. The kid is gonna be a whiny brat with an attitude without that maturity.
On the other hand, if you have a kid who is mature enough to maintain and manage a marker like your modern day marvels, that shows he's serious about the sport, and not just interested in shooting squirrels in the backyard at 15 BPS.

[FinnMcKool]

Should of mentioned $400CAD but just as frickin hard to get as American dollars even if it is worth ****.

[Deep Sixx]

Originally posted by Ebonclaw
Woah, $400 for a Black Dragon? You overpayed man, but still, you bought it yourself, so that's cool.


:rolleyes:

Look at his location... $400 CDN is about right.

D6

[suxmacocker]

HATERS would u like sum HATER-AID oh u must a PHD=PLAYER HATER DEGREE dont matter what u shoot, how u shoot it, what u shoot it with, what u look like shooting it, as long as u can play and if u have a bad mowf be able to back it with yo *****.im 25 and if my son was old enough to play i would buy him a cocker or impulse or such and such but not a angel or e mag cause i dont think they are worth the price.

[Ebonclaw]

Originally posted by Deep Sixx



:rolleyes:

Look at his location... $400 CDN is about right.

D6

Oops, my bad. Oh well, by the time you factor in what most pball places charge for shipping, $400 is about right. :laugh: :P

[Cube242]

Originally posted by WillyC2106
The one thing I hate other then wiping is a spoiled newbie. I have known and met so many newbies whos first gun is a ripper timmy to angels and tricked cockers . I've been playing for a while and the best gun I could save up for is a EM1. Thier parents buy them top of the line guns for doing nothing. I'm not trying to make fun of or direct bad comments to newbies or fellow paintballers.I was just wondering if anyone who has ran into the same problem. I do respect the newbies if you where just wondering that.:pissed: :pissed:

And a point for Cpt. Perception. News flash: Life has been unfair for, say, 208,000,000 consecutive weeks. The future looks just as dim.

[magminkis]

WTF WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH WHO CARES IF NEWBIES BUY GOOD GUNS STOP COMPLAINING AND DEAL WITH IT GOD ITS PROBLY BECAUSE THOSE NEWBIES GOT AWSOME GUNS AND LIT THEM UP AND NOW THEY POST STUPID STUFF THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT!!!!!!!

[ped2001]

hey nsuck are you talking about the anoying ref ay mr. paintball?

[NSUCK]

Originally posted by ped2001
hey nsuck are you talking about the anoying ref ay mr. paintball?

ok, that sentence made no sence... retype it please

[splatterpunx]

NSUCK you know how to deal with those sh*t's just bunker them
err uh smack them in the head and tell them there out!


and yea i heard mr.little wipe's alot got a timmy and think's recball is a nppl event

take some more authority when you ref and warn them about there mouth's,conduct and that there are consiquencis to thier actions

[ST.Rage]

I dunno I work 2 jobs plus have a computer side buisness and goto school fulltime. I somehow managed to convince my fiancee to let me get my PB equipment. Of course she does not know about my freak system yet, taxes are a wonderful thing sometimes. Yeah it makes me jealous that individuals parents buy them everything they want, I grew up in poverty so I appreciate everything that i have. A lot of people don't so are the ones I can't stand. silver spoon kids never amount to anything, oh wait our fearless president is a silver spooner himself. ahh well live your life the best you can, treat others with respect and you will be ok. I aced my Cisco final and skills test for any that knows what that means so i am off to have a beer!!

[Ebonclaw]

Originally posted by magminkis
WTF WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH WHO CARES IF NEWBIES BUY GOOD GUNS STOP COMPLAINING AND DEAL WITH IT GOD ITS PROBLY BECAUSE THOSE NEWBIES GOT AWSOME GUNS AND LIT THEM UP AND NOW THEY POST STUPID STUFF THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT!!!!!!!

Well, it's not that newbies have good guns that irks us, it's that newbies have people buy their own gear for them and pretend to be paintball gods never having played a game.
As for you, it sounds like SOMEONE'S mommy bought him a mag and is being a bit defensive.:rolleyes:

[Dc_Playa]

I personally don't care if a newbie has a high end gun or if they got their parents to pay for it. Part of the excitment, to me at least, of owning a hign end gun is buying it yourself; and if they wanna have someone buy their way into the sport then so be it, it's not my choice.

And why should anyone else who worked for their gun and have been playing for a while care? A newbie is still a newbie with or without an angel.

[joshthefrosh]

i had to drop the punctuation and grammer to get 1000 characters on my last post here
people with the fancy guns who "suck" kind of remind me of those rappers with their fancy cars that they never drive and big stereos that they dont know jack about. and this guy in my wood shop class who brags about his civic hatch with his integra engine which we all agree he dosent have. he dosent know anything about import proformence and when we asked him which kind of block he had he just said integra and has no idea what i mean by then you have a b16c and he's like what? i dont know my uncle built it and sold it to me because he has to stop street racing. :rolleyes: all in all i dont care about his made up rice rocket or some little kids fancy gun. its just a hobby geez. i have $600 into my new hpi micro rs4 skyline r/c car to get it to full race but i never go to the track

[pbjunkie06]

i kow that i dont like seenin newbies out therewith angels and STo's ans blackmagics becouse they probally dont know hw to work them an its a pain in the *** to fix their dam gun evey weekend it just annoys me it anooys me more whern there parentsbuy them all there stuff i know when i was 11 i bought my on tippmann and my opwn air pain mask ect. and i still do ive bought a spyder nd now a cocker with my own cash
thank youh

[mistersuperfly]

Try and help the kids, and maybe when they are on the field they will try to help you. If they snap back at you cocky-like just say to them "If you don't want to learn, that's great, just remember your gun won't save you" or something to that effect. Also, when you are saying this, try not to cuss them out, that will only make them more cocky...

[kingtime69]

if your mom and dad said here you go son i just bought you a $1700.00 angel. are you going to say no thanks mom i rather play with my avenger until i can save up and buy my own angel?
i think not.:finger: some people have money and some people dont point blank. :peace:

[Crash Danger]

I think the newbies get the expensive guns because of all of you. Yes, you. All you do is talk about getting better and better guns. Newbies learn from what they hear other people say, just like little babies. If you don't set an example they're just gonna keep buying expensive markers right away.

There I said it

[Delutignot]

what can I say... if some noob is walking aorund with an ir3 or some other thousand dollar marker, so long as he ain't an arrogant *******, I'm cool with it... There are th ose who think they're the best just cause they have a nice marker, and there are those who are willing to learn more to use the full potential of their marker...

Whether or not their parents buy it for them.. if they're willing to learn, cool... if they wanna be *******s about it.. not cool, go to hell. :)

[Solo]

Originally posted by Crash Danger
I think the newbies get the expensive guns because of all of you. Yes, you. All you do is talk about getting better and better guns. Newbies learn from what they hear other people say...If you don't set an example they're just gonna keep buying expensive markers right away.


Bingo...this guy hit the nail on the head...as long as people perpetuate the (silly) ideas that "brand A blows brand B off the field" or "gun X can kill gun Y any day," the kids who want the "BEST" (and can afford it) will simply buy the best they can find. And we can thank ourselves, because we continue to act as if paintball markers somehow have attributes of their own, independent of their human operators.

Solo

[WillyC2106]

When I started this thread I was trying to make a point to a newbie if you ain't got the skill dont get the gun, by that I mean a high end gun $$$$.

1: A high end gun like a cocker a noob won't know how to take of it. Spend more time fixing it the playing with it. With gun such as tippman a newbie wouldnt need to be so confused on taking care of it.

2: These noobs sometimes buy these high end guns to try to make them not look like a noob. Then get a few catchie phrases like dont dry fire my cocker.

3: They overshoot I mean overshoot ya.

4: Its bad when the parents do it because when they grow up thier bose wont be so nice.

[anonymous1475]

Well, there are three types of little kids with expensive guns that I have seen:

The 8-12 year old who's daddy bought him and his brother two angels, super cut and carved, and neither of them can play worth a damn.

The 8-12 year old with an angel, bushy, or cocker who can't play worth a damn and is a cocky ******* as well. They usually are really judgemental, call people newbies, wipe, and are scared to lean out of a bunker. Hate these guys!

The 8-12 year old with an angel, bushy or cocker who can actually play pretty well. Knows his gun, is a good sport, doesnt cheat, knows when to do things (advance, retreat...u know). These guys don't bother me, I usually respect them for being good.

[halB]

I once saw a 10 year old kid with a cocker. well naturally i thought he was a newb..... until we played. that kid owned, and i mean he owned, everyone on the field. he was usually the first one picked and he handed people their asses on a platter. but i doubt he started out with a cocker.

[suxmacocker]

leave the newbies alone and lets jus all play ball!!!!

[magminkis]

HEY EBON CLAN I BOUGHT ALL MY OWN STUFF MY MAG ALL OF IT IS MY OWN YOU BIATCH YOUR AS WORSE AS THOSE NEWBIES SUCK A FAT ONE!!!

[Ebonclaw]

Lmao. Someone needs to go back to grade school. Even Incube doesn't have that bad of a sentance structure when he's TRYING for crying out loud.
Well, I've never been accused of being "as worse as those newbies." As for sucking a big fat one? I really wouldn't want a neurotic guy like you on my case for stealing your boyfriend. You seem a bit defensive..maybe you're compensating for something? And I seriously doubt you bought all your own stuff. Maybe with the money you were given, which is basically the same, but then again, maybe you DID work for it, it appears you haven't spent much time in school after all. Hope you're as good at paintball as you pretend to be, cuz you sure aren't gonna major in rocket science, and I think any career more complicated than frying burgers is beyond your grasp.

[Ebonclaw]

Sorry for the double post, but I really can't pass this up.

Originally posted by magminkis
HEY EBON CLAN I BOUGHT ALL MY OWN STUFF MY MAG ALL OF IT IS MY OWN YOU BIATCH YOUR AS WORSE AS THOSE NEWBIES SUCK A FAT ONE!!!

I figure as long as we're on the subject of newbies that act like arses with expensive guns, I present to the people exhibit A.
Looks like Frank Connel isn't the only one who needs to grow up.

[starboarder2001]

why cant we stop worrieing about who has what gun and who works for his gun and just play with wateever gun or guns u have. I realy dont care who has angels or who has what gun i just like to play. Its not the gun that makes a good player its practice.

[Delutignot]

yeah.. but doesn't it bother you even a bit that some people with those angels and cockers go around badmouthing everyone, and just absolutely suck? Who cares if they paid for it themselves or not. If they wanna be *******s, they'll get the same **** handed right back to them.

I guess that's more of a generalization, but I guess that's a classic example of spoiled newbs being annoying..

[Richy_C]

I don't care if they have a good gun, paint breaks on them just as easily, they suck just as much, they don't know jack about resale value :)

[halB]

hey ebonclaw, try this one on that newb, "if i want you to open your mouth ill jiggle my zipper" thanks to www.pimpdaddy.com

[starboarder2001]

were I play we all get along realy good. I realy dont see much of what u guys are talking about. I have alot of fun espesialy when the speedball field is open. I am kinda new to playing with a organized group but thats because i live in a small city and there is only one or two and they were hard to find. When i first started (about 4-6 months ago) I started off playing with my friends with walmart semis. Then I researched about tactics and other stuff. about 3 months later for my birthday pressent and money I earned I bough a black dragun electronic hopper exc. . I just got into speedball about 1 week ago and i love it. I try to be nice and read and watch to learn tactics. I also practice snapshooting and acuracy during the week. I play on my grandmas land sometimes and sometimes i play with silverhawks and other local clubs. I can understand how u all can be mad (because i proboly would be too) but there is no way of stopping it. Its there money so they can wast or spend it on whatever they want to. It makes me mad if anyone acts like a jerk.All we can do is guide them (:)or bunker them JK:))

[kr8er]

i have been playing for four years and i just bought my high end gun about two weeks ago. i paid for it all myself .

i think its mainly skill but a nice gun brings you to your full potential. i think its about 90% skill 10% equipment.

[Paint Bulley]

Originally posted by Richy_C
I don't care if they have a good gun, paint breaks on them just as easily, they suck just as much, they don't know jack about resale value :)

Richy doesnt steel candy from babies, he steals Angels from 10 year olds for a whopping $10, since everyone knows they have a horrid resale value ;)

[Crash Danger]

if it's not the marker that makes the player than why does everybody buy expensive markers? Hehehe...

[Delutignot]

Cause they support the better player.. have fun playing paintball w/o a marker.. oh sure it can be done, but you don't accomplish TOOO much. :)

[LordChaos]

Pefect sollution to the newbie rich kid with the ultra high end marker that doesn't know what they are doing but still thinks they are that good because they have the top end marker : Break out the pump and take them to school. :D

(note the part "that doesn't know what they are doing".... there are those who's first marker IS a high end one who actualy aren't newbies because they've been playing with rentals while waiting for the oppertunity to get their dream setup).

[Scarecrow]

The cool thing about having a munchkin on your team is that they don't have to duck behind bunkers, they can stand :) now just get them to snapshot...

[Richy_C]

Originally posted by Crash Danger
if it's not the marker that makes the player than why does everybody buy expensive markers? Hehehe... Because who ever says equipment doesn't matter.... is a fool



And Bulley, common, i give them atleast 50, that more then my hoes get... I mean, they don't know yet :dodgy:

[Ebonclaw]

That's a cool new smilie. I just noticed that.
Yeah, equipment can make as much as a 75% difference. If you're on an NPPL team for instance, and start using stock rebels because you pick up a 32* sponsorship, I'm sorry, you're going to get your butt handed to you every game you play. On the other hand, it may make almost no difference if your skill isn't matched with everyone else's.....say, for instance an experienced stock player against a newer player with a semi.
Skill is an important part, but in the NPPL, everyone is a notch above the rest, and it's kinda like football, there will be days when the champions lose to the guys who just got maxed fo the 7th time in a row, simply because the equipment, whether Timmy or Angel or Cocker, is pretty evenly matched.

[Raptomatic]

Ya know what? I own a low-end semi but I like it and I play hard, so as long as it gets me on the field I don't care about performance. I really think that mr. Newjack should take a little trip to the paintball field and play with the rentals for a few outings before actually buying a big complex setup.

It reminds me of the little blonde-haired hitler youth kid that I played with last time. I shot him in the neck from across the field and he took his little custom annoed autococker and tattled to the ref. The Ref was like "Give me a break, just play for the love of god".

To sum it all up, a little jingle:

If you're gonna buy and the price is high/
Play your hardest and don't come to cry/

[^Psycho^Skillz^]

my dad pays for my paint, but i'm proud to say i've bought all my equipment myself...just save up the money from birthday and xmas no job required :-D

[stockjockey]

I personally think there shouldn't even be mega-expensive guns (ie. angels timmy)... why must some of us spend so much on rediculous guns that only make the game unfair for the poor newbie, since most of us obviously can't afford it? Did we have less fun when we were playing with sheridan PGPs? (and WTF is up with those $500+ pump guns?! give me a damn break) And if you wanna say that you're a decent player and you earned your money for your cocker, good for you. But isn't it more impressive and dignifying to own a lesser gun and still be considered by others as a veteran player, and not be distinguished by your equipment? (actually, if you're like me and play with side arms only, you get the best of both worlds) And why do you have to get a damn angel when there are competitive guns out there for a fraction of the cost? Electronic spyders are very impressive and cost as little as $230 last time I checked..

[starboarder2001]

I plan to stick to my black dragun until i feel i am ready to move up to a electroneumatic then save up the money. It will at least be a year but the black dragun is a realy awsome gun so i am not complaining.

[NSUCK]

Originally posted by stockjockey
I personally think there shouldn't even be mega-expensive guns (ie. angels timmy)... why must some of us spend so much on rediculous guns that only make the game unfair for the poor newbie, since most of us obviously can't afford it? Did we have less fun when we were playing with sheridan PGPs? (and WTF is up with those $500+ pump guns?! give me a damn break) And if you wanna say that you're a decent player and you earned your money for your cocker, good for you. But isn't it more impressive and dignifying to own a lesser gun and still be considered by others as a veteran player, and not be distinguished by your equipment? (actually, if you're like me and play with side arms only, you get the best of both worlds) And why do you have to get a damn angel when there are competitive guns out there for a fraction of the cost? Electronic spyders are very impressive and cost as little as $230 last time I checked..

you sir are a moron.

people feel the need to buy guns that are expensive, because you get what you pay for. AND its not to own newbies with, its to play tournaments... not all people with high end guns only do recball.. there is a competative part to the sport.

[Meph]

Originally posted by WillyC2106
The one thing I hate other then wiping is a spoiled newbie. I have known and met so many newbies whos first gun is a ripper timmy to angels and tricked cockers . I've been playing for a while and the best gun I could save up for is a EM1. Thier parents buy them top of the line guns for doing nothing. I'm not trying to make fun of or direct bad comments to newbies or fellow paintballers.I was just wondering if anyone who has ran into the same problem. I do respect the newbies if you where just wondering that.:pissed: :pissed:

Shut up with your complaining, grab a pump, and eliminate them with that to SHOW them that having the most expensive gun doesn't make them good.

If their parents buy them an expensive gun, so ****ing what. Get over it.

[ShadowKi][er]

Do you know what I hate more? For the record, I'm 15. I HATE when people walk up to me and start talking crap, just because I have nice gear. I might not be the best player in the world, but does that mean I have to use a talon and $10 mask to enjoy the sport? I never talk wipe, talk ****e and I respect all the better players. Is being young and having nice gear a reason to be flamed at, if you've behaved as well as somebody could on a field? Hell no.

[Ebonclaw]

I am seeing some degree of a double standard in the pball world. On the one hand, if a newbie shows up with something between blade to spyder level, he's considered stupid for using that equipment and gets knocked. If he shows up with automag and up, he gets dissed because his parents bought it for him or he's a newbie with an angel. So what's the call?
Throwing on the entire spectrum of things, the frustrating thing for some of us is working 56 hours a week, for five weeks, and buying JUST the stock Angel, when someone else goes and has mommy buy them a Dark C&C Dan Bonebrake Spanky AutoAngeltrix with 47 different burst modes and laser guided paintballs, with an electronically regulated experimental air tank produced by NASA, and has to do nothing for it. It's kinda frustrating, especially when the newbie comes up to you and says "your gun sucks" or that he's a better player and all. In general, it's the ATTITUDE of the newbie with an Angel that generally makes me hate him, not the fact he's a newbie with an Angel.

[Richy_C]

Actually, NASA uses the ACI Bull Dog reg, so hah!

[stockjockey]

NSUCK: You are the spolied moron.

How do you figure that expensive guns are better? give me two hundred dollars and a weekend and I'll build you something that'll kick the crap out of any auto cokcer out there.

And absolutely no gun is worth spending $2000 on.

And who the hell are you to be posting in this thread? Lets look at your profile.... hmmm.....16 years old and a 2k2 cocker. ahhh, does mommy dress you too?? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH.

And regarding what you say about tourney... I guess you're saying only the rich and spoiled should be able in tournaments. People like you are the EXACT reason why paintball will never be a respected sport, much less an olympic sport.

[The_Pipes]

I think that it's fine to be a n00b with great gear on the one condition that it was your money from your job paying for it.

I spent a good 3 years savin up money for my equipment and noone's ever said I'm spoiled cause nobody gave things to me. Sure, my parents got me a drop forward, but that's it.

I can't stand people who are spoiled (meaning ppl who their parents buy them things which should be earned).

[Crash Danger]

If someone wants to spend a couple grand on a sport, so be it. It's their money let them waste it/invest it as they like.

[LordChaos]

Originally posted by stockjockey
And absolutely no gun is worth spending $2000 on.


Sorry, but I beg to differ. While it is true that no marker is going to be woth $2,000 to everyone, that does not mean that a specific marker isn't worth $2,000 (or more) to someone. Your statement is the same as saying no car is worth $200,000. From strickly a functionality standpoint, it may be an echo of the truth. But there's more to life (and our passions in life) then bare functionality.

To me, my centerfeed sovereign is worth something in the $2,000 range, because it's not just another marker, it's a one of a kind functional work of art.

You would have us all using PGPs, stock Spyders, and maybe phantoms. (and driving Yugo's). Sorry, but I (and many others) prefer to be able to express ourselves and pick and choose what we use, regaurdless if it's a $200 spyder or a $4,000 one of a kind made to order completely custom cocker (or a solid gold talon for that matter).

The issue is not "how expensive is your gun". It's not even "how expensive is your gun and how old are you". It's the people who think "I have a ultra expensive gun so I MUST be better then anyone else even though I don't have the slightest idea how to play". that mentality is, unfortunatly, extreamly prevelent among the young (mid teens) players new to the sport who are "gifted" everything by their parrent's/family. I'm not saying all, but a signifigant portion to qualify as "majority".

Oh, and I'll save you the trouble. Age 31, and my markers are in my sig.

[Crash Danger]

It's not how expensive your gun is, it's how comfortable you feel bringing a $2000 piece of equipment with you onto a field to run around with.

I would not put an object the price of my laptop computer through the same wear and tear as my 80 buck Rebel. But that's just me.

If someone doesn't quote me on this I'll be very disappointed :crazy:

[halB]

I would quote you, but three quotes is my limit. HOWEVER I might be persuaded to bump someone out and put you in if the right *ahem* persuasion was found... $$$