IR3, GripStyx, and .45 trigger frames

[halB]

a question: the .45 was designed so that your index finger would be aligned with what you were pointing your gun at, so that one could just "point" towards what they wanted to shoot, and pull. however several new straighter trigger frames have come out. do they still have this same attribute? also if they are so good why doesnt the military or even a gun manufacturer produce them for firearms?

[MINDofSIN]

You don't snap shoot with an M16.

Paintguns are held differently and do not have to be as precise.

[Dr. Isotope]

Pistol grips are designed primarily to be held at arm's length, while rifles (even "pistol" gripped models) are designed to be fired while shouldered; few paintguns are fired from either of these positions, and therefore, the choice of grips is pretty much up to the manufacturer and *perhaps* the consumer.

I personally like .45 frames-- but I have big big hands-- a Glock .45 fits me quite nicely, but any of the Glock, H&K, etc. 9mms just feel too darn small. When I made my trigger frame for my 'Cane, I copied the Benchmark, and made it 1 inch wide. Perfect for me, but pretty much everyone else says it's like trying to hold a cracker box.

I think M16 grips are awful, and Z-grips are assaults on human decency, but that's just me. :D

[MINDofSIN]

I too have held numerous pistols, rifles and paintguns.

The IR3 Space Frame is damn sweet. It works very well for playing tight to a bunker with a big drop but wouldn't function very well with a big tank hanging off the end.

I really like the feel of the larger Beretta pistols, most .45s 1911 stye, and most larger caliber revolvers. I really hate compact .38 or 9mm concealed carry weapons(ie. Beretta Bobcat) and pistols that seem fat. The Glocks are for the most part very wide and blocky. I never did like Sig-Sauers or most Russian/Chinese pistols(Makarov, Tokarev) either.

Hey Tope, did you Hurricane have the rifle stock before you put on a new frame? How did you like that?

[Punchcard]

another thing is that in paintball, the ability to tuck in SMALL is of paramount importance. Couple that with the lack of recoil (comparitively), and you get the production of vertical grip frames, z-frames etc.

Real firearms tucking in tight isn't that important (I know, you would think it would be! :), and you have to shoulder a considerable ammount of recoil. Couple that with needing to use the iron sights or a scope on top of the rifle for prescicion, and the super conservative mindset that goes with most small arms, you get traditional looking firearms.

[Dr. Isotope]

I carried the factory oak stock for a number of years, but the durn the thing was just too durn heavy. The angle of the grip was also something not of great comfort... I would imagine that in a miltary/combat type situation, rifles are carried at rest perhaps 90% of the time, and shouldered only when firing-- in a paintball game, the gun is carried ready to fire maybe 60% of the time. The rifle stock made my arms tired. :(

I do wish that I still had it around, though, if only for nostalgia's sake.

[halB]

Originally posted by MINDofSIN
Paintguns are held differently and do not have to be as precise.

they are only held in weird ways by people who have no idea how to aim, and u need to be precise with a pump.