!!!plez Help!!!

[DUDE2000]

I have a tippmann98 custom... got it about a 1month ago
the only thing i did to it was replaced the stock barrel w/ alapco bigshot 12in barrel
i would like to now wat upgrades will make maker
1. more accurate
2. quiter
3. faster

FYI- dont say to get another barrel cause i like the one i got
plez help me out
thanx

[Meph]

Okay, faster.
Double trigger is the cheapest and easiest upgrade to get. For probably 20 bucks, you get the trigger plus guard. Your pull will be less than 1lb of pull. You can easily get 10bps with some skill and training.
With a lil' more money (about 80 bucks) you can have yourself the RT trigger. This causes trigger bounce, so it creates a full-auto effect without actually being full auto (technically). Takes time to "master" it, but it's quite simple.
And with even more money, the e-bolt. This is a very expensive version, so don't think of this if you're on a tight budget. You can get one for the 98C for about.... I think it's like $250.00 at www.countypaintball.com This turns the gun into a true electropneumatic machine. Single solenoid use just like a Bushmaster. With it, you can fire pretty much as fast as you pull that trigger, or just flip it on full auto, response mode, burst, turbo... what ever. I personally only use semi with mine, I have no need for the others.

Quieter, well... since you have a Bigshot you won't get too much quieter. But there are pleanty of modifications for silencing at www.m98center.com Take a look, rummage around. You'll find what you need.

More accurate... there's many things to do. Before I give much advice with this, what is your budget overall?

[White Demon]

to make it quiter you need a new barrel with more porting........more acuarate try a hyperstar bolt hmm maybe..........fast double trigger/ RT / E bolt

[sniper14]

doesnt the rocket cock make it quieter?

[White Demon]

it does a little not much but for 15 bucks you cant exspect much

[DUDE2000]

i dont really know...um...just tell me everything that runs from 1$-1000$
plez respond ASAP
thanx

[Legionnaired]

Actually meph, i was under the impression that a double trigger simple game you more leverage, and that the pull was not varying in strengh

Course, im the n00b here, correct me if i'm wrong.

[Meph]

That's basically true, leverage. There's nothing special about a double trigger.

With a longer trigger to pull, the pounds of force required to pull the trigger back to tip the sear is only 1 pound, if not a little less. As compared to the stock trigger pull of 3 pounds.

With certain skinny single triggers, people can just slap on a double trigger shoe instead!


Now I'm going to take a wild guess that you meant $100, and not $1,000 DUDE2000.

Well, for that price range, get an RVA and a regulator. The RVA = rear velocity adjuster. This will be a more consistent way to adjust your velocity as compared to the choke-styled powertube way.
Then a good regulator. Since you'll be using CO2, a Palmer Stabilizer would be a good suggestion. They can be expensive, about 90 bucks. So look for one used.
*note: get a regulator, you'll also need a VA (vertical adapter).

And to keep out as much liquid as possible, skip the expansion chamber and get a good anti-siphon. That will be within the tank itself and draw out the gas, as compared to an X-chamber which just gives more room (not as reliable/good).

[kaltj]

If you're going for an RVA, and also want quiet, i'd grab a full boar or full boar shadow. they're a true rear cocker, not just one you slap ion the side like a rocket cock, and both include an rva. personally i like the regular full boar, the moving parts look way bad*ss, but that's me. and it does quiet the gun to a noticable, but not great, extent.

$40 at http://www.countypaintball.com

[sniper14]

i made a triple trig out of a cloths hanger. it would of worked but i wraped too much dental floss on my trig so i couldnt pull it back b/c of my trig stop. but it would of worked.

[Legionnaired]

Originally posted by Meph
That's basically true, leverage. There's nothing special about a double trigger.

With a longer trigger to pull, the pounds of force required to pull the trigger back to tip the sear is only 1 pound, if not a little less. As compared to the stock trigger pull of 3 pounds.



Are we talking PSI or actual pounds of force required, because if it's the same spring, wouldn't the force exerted pushing the trigger back into place be the same, regardless of trigger?

[Meph]

Okay, I'll explain. It's leverage. Force. The longer the trigger, the easier it will be to pull back.

Just like mechanics. You take a rusted bolt. It's been there for 3 years. You have the right size adapter, so you put it on. Now for the ratchet (displaying the trigger). One has a 4" long handle, it's a compact ratchet. The other one is a rather large ratchet at 2' long.

You try the short one first. You pull as hard as you can holding onto the handle, but it's not enough.

Next the long one. You grab ahold of the end of it and pull. Takes some force, but you get the bolt out.

[Legionnaired]

ok, so you're talking about force on the trigger side, i though you were implying that changing the trigger would vary the ammount of force put on the sear, needed to trip the sear. I'm wrong. sorry.

[smg60user]

You just stick with Meph and you will be happy. I have the greatest respect for him and his advice. I would acutally write a response to your question, but it would look too similar to his. So I will make it simple.

More accurate? Keep your barrel. Short of going nitro, what you've got will handle anything in front of your gun.

Quieter? Full boar definatley. Go Shadow. Don't mess around, It is a bit quieter, but also do the rear bolt (hammer) padding mod at www.m98center.com . Keep your rig's guts clean and make it quieter.

Faster. Well, I HIGHLY reccomend getting the RT. If you're not into $80 then start with a double trigger that is compatible with the RT, and just add that later. There is nothing like it, and when you don't want to, or cannot use it, just turney lil screw, and you're right back to normal.

See, like I said just follow the Meph into the light.

[Legionnaired]

I also have respect for Meph, just seeing how other people treat him, and how he reciprocates that, he's the epitome of the ideal forum-goer.

I tried to make that response as respectful as possible, normally when think I found a flaw in someone's argument, especially online, I usually flame him. Something I need to improve upon I guess...

Oh, and a funny story about torque.

My dad was working on a clogged sewage pipe in our house. The thing was jammed on, and he, a 250 pound man, couldn't budge it. So, he got a 4 foot section of pipe, and put it over the wrence, pulled, and swisted teh square-shaped grip right off!

He had to drill holes in it, put bolts in, then do it again, and this is with the smell of human feces hanging over teh room.

Too much force can be a baaaad thing.