DAMN the new BUshy is cheap!!

[133+ Player]

I was watching the newest thing on warpig and they interviewed some vice president from ICD and she said that the price for the new bushy will be 285. and thats MSRP or whatever that is allways like 50 bucks more then most sites sell them. The only thing is that the gun can only 10 bps and thats not that big of a deal. Has anyone else heard about this?

[Shoe3]

gimme a link :eek:

[Richy_C]

Really dude, it's not a Bushmaster, it's like a toned down Bushmaster, but still owns all others in the price range. I wouldn't be suprised if you could upgrade it too a Bushmaster. It's call a Bushmaster Zero, lower end, rec ball gun.

[133+ Player]

I knew it wasn't a true bushy but preety much any true electro for less then 300 is shocking to me.

[Lord Delta]

Put up a pic or link if you have it, or just the website you found that at.

[Meph]

Originally posted by 133+ Player
I was watching the newest thing on warpig and ...

Yeah, I'm curious too, where did you see it? :)

[punkerx1]

hahaahhaha, o well we all r like that sumtimes..but mayb they wanted the link for the warpig site or wutvr? i dunno, lol but thats kinda funny.

[AngelsHolocaust]

well hot damn, you already get alot for what you pay for on bushys, this is pretty damn cool you can get an almost bushy for so cheap. it amazes me to see electros for so cheap i thought it was crazy when zap came out with the 600-e for 200, now look they have black dragun compacts for like 80 bucks (yeah i know they arent true electros but who cares)

[Shoe3]

anybody have a pic and link?

[AngelsHolocaust]

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tournament/psp/2002/vegas/techgallery/MVC508S_jpg.shtml

[Shoe3]

is there an article?

[Shoe3]

ah yes and is it another blackdragun-esque blowback, or is it an EP?

[AngelsHolocaust]

there is no article, and its electropneumatic, not just a blowback with an electric frame

[133+ Player]

I was watching the most recent Pigtv that just came out recently.

[paintballdiablo]

I can't wait for it to come out....I might get that instead of the Timmy, at least my dad will let me buy that. Questions though...

1. Modes? Any at all?
2. What is a LPR(low pressure reg) and what does it do?
3. Release date?
4. Any colors?
5. BKO stands for......??

:D

[AngelsHolocaust]

1. not sure, but will prolly have modes
2. low pressure reg regulates the cocking pressure, it tells you how to set it in the manual.
3.no idea
4. almost positive it will have the basic colors b2k's and b2k2s have (red blue green gold purple black silver)
5. bk one

[paintballdiablo]

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.......next to a B2K

[FrOnTMaN]

just wondering,hows the accuracy of the bushys?
this little devils got my interest

[paintballdiablo]

Me too....the B2K I saw at our field had a good trajectory and very good accuracy.

Couple more ??'s on this guy:

6. Operating Pressure?
7. Accept Bushy upgrades?

[AngelsHolocaust]

the operating pressure will most likely be the same as a b2k and it will accept bushy upgrades

i know on my bushy with the stock barrel (newest b2k out) and the stock barrel is comparable to a boomstick so the accuracy is really nice

[paintballdiablo]

Whats the OP of a normal Bushy?

[AngelsHolocaust]

around 220

[DoM]

when do they plan for the new bushy to come out
Thx,
DoM

[Codestar20]

That is a nice gun for that cheap. I'll definately take a look at that for my next gun.

[AngelsHolocaust]

if you have the cash, i definately reccomend a b2k, awesome gun, my stock bushy blows my $750 cocker out of the water in every category

[NSUCK]

ok guys, first there is a huge thread about this gun in the icd forum on pbnation. The gun is mean for recball only, it is not a tournament grade marker. There are no modes, it is not an LCD (hence the low price) it will not outpreform a bushmaster. They can only shoot 10 bps (board regulated) if it shot any faster it would blend paint(thats just how fast the gun can work). I dobut you could upgrade it to a bushy, but that would be an awsome mod. and for the guys wandering about accuracy... every gun shoots just as accurate and has the same trajectory as any other gun using the same paint/barrel match, so its just as accurate as you spyder/tippmann etc... but with good paint/barrel match it will be just as accurate as any angel

[simon woodstock]

Originally posted by NSUCK
There are no modes, it is not an LCD (hence the low price
my bushy doesn't have any of that stuff either.

[AngelsHolocaust]

your bushy doesnt have diff modes?

[Shoe3]

arg, another miguided paint-to-barrel fanatic. Ask Death Docter how accurate a cocker vs a mag is. He used to think it was all paint to barrel, untill he saw the light of a cocker

[NSUCK]

Originally posted by Shoe3
arg, another miguided paint-to-barrel fanatic. Ask Death Docter how accurate a cocker vs a mag is. He used to think it was all paint to barrel, untill he saw the light of a cocker

your just gullible. So your saying all of the barrel kits are a hoax? please, I own a bizerk (8 in barrle w/ changable bore sizes) and guess what? when I match the paint with the insert its more accurate? or are you saying I was just lucky? belive me, ive tested this. So dont give us crap about closed bolt guns being more accurate and barrel kits dont matter, dont even say that high pressure distorts the ball.

[simon woodstock]

Originally posted by AngelsHolocaust
your bushy doesnt have diff modes?
oh yeh. i seemed to have forgetten about those when i posted.
probably because i've never used them.

[Shoe3]

Im not saying paint to barrel doesnt matter, i am saying that its not the ONLY thing that matters, but it helps a lot

[AngelsHolocaust]

it basically is the only thing that matters, other than the barrel the bolt might help a little on accuracy

[VeNoM]

i doubt the bolt effects accuracy at all . . . consistency and kick play a big part in accuracy too, and cockers are consistent and dont kick much at all (if tuned right) but this has NOTHING to do with the topic, so lets stay on track guys . . .

[dcmander]

Stock about 250psi. Most run at 200psi w/ a few mods/upgrades.

Mine runs at 180psi, and thats probably the lowest you wanna go because any lower and you start to get bad efficiency. I could run mine way lower and i have :) but i like it at 180psi. I can't tell the difference between 180psi and 140psi :D

[person1]

The ICD people said the BKO comes out in June. I am going to buy one right away.

[AngelsHolocaust]

id wait untill they get the bugs worked out, most first releases of electro guns have a few bugs

[starboarder2004]

Is the BK0 an electropneumatuic
and can you interchange the parts with B2K parts .

[VeNoM]

yes its electropneumatic and some parts can be interchanged but i dont think all . . .

[starboarder2004]

Will they sell faster shooting chips instead of a !0(bps) chip

[starboarder2001]

NSUCK
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read this and it may answere your question.

Nsuck
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05-17-2002 01:55 AM

ok guys, first there is a huge thread about this gun in the icd forum on pbnation. The gun is mean for recball only, it is not a tournament grade marker. There are no modes, it is not an LCD (hence the low price) it will not outpreform a bushmaster. They can only shoot 10 bps (board regulated) if it shot any faster it would blend paint(thats just how fast the gun can work). I dobut you could upgrade it to a bushy, but that would be an awsome mod. and for the guys wandering about accuracy... every gun shoots just as accurate and has the same trajectory as any other gun using the same paint/barrel match, so its just as accurate as you spyder/tippmann etc... but with good paint/barrel match it will be just as accurate as any angel




so u wont have to read the hole thing

"They can only shoot 10 bps (board regulated) if it shot any faster it would blend paint(thats just how fast the gun can work)"

so if he is right then if u bought a board that would let u shoot over 10bps then it would chop paint.

[automagdude]

it is not a tournament grade marker.

on the video of pigtv it said it is a tournament grade marker but at a lower price soo people who are going into rookie tournies and stuff don't have to buy an expenive gun.

[starboarder2004]

first off how do people know how the bk0 operates when it hasn't even come out yet.2nd off are you tryin to say that your gonna use it for a back position because bushy suck for that because your not gonna hang out in the front and go over 10bps ussually so why not save the extra 200$ and whats this talk about it not being a real bushy???its made by icd and is in the same bushmaster class if you could answer theese ?s for me i would send you 10 free oompa loompas!!!!!!:pissed:

[Shrubmeister]

>first off how do people know how the bk0 operates when it hasn't even come out yet.

A couple of threads from PB City & PB Nation that are frequented by SteveICD & GregICD

>2nd off are you tryin to say that your gonna use it for a back position because bushy suck for that because your not gonna hang out in the front and go over 10bps ussually so why not save the extra 200$

This marker is a entry level electropneumatic. On a bushy, the 4 way solenoid will push and pull the cylinder/hammer. On the BK0 the 2 way solenoid is used only to push the hammer forward. A spring is then used to push it back. Hence, a lower ROF. Because it will be released in June, and not very many folks have had the chance to use it on the field, it is not known whether or not it will make a good back or front marker. The Bushy, on the other hand has a pretty good sooting distance and a fairly nice flat trajectory.

>and whats this talk about it not being a real bushy???its made by icd and is in the same bushmaster class if you could answer theese ?s for me i would send you 10 free oompa loompas!!!!!!

Some of the parts are swappable with the Bushy. But not many. If you look between the HP reg and the Grip Frame you'll see where the LPR is now located. Also if you look at the tray between the upper reciever and the grip frame, you'll notice that it is shorter than the Bushy tray. This is because the solenoid and PCB is now there and the battery has been located to the grip. It will still use ICD threaded barrels.

Being that ICD has already tooled up to build the Bushy, it is easier for them to produce this marker without having to do a full reprogramming of their machines. Therefore, lower cost.

Now...

How about those Oompa Loopas!


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[Christo16]

There is a fat thread on this here: pbnation.com (http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?threadid=90036&perpage=21&pagenumber=1)
and if you want to see the video for it it's here: PigTV (http://www.pigtv.net/02_summary/02_pspvegas.shtml) - it's about 8 mins into the third part (after the first commercial

[weefek]

all the dumb rookie tournies around here don't let you use electro's anyways.

[VeNoM]

even if its semi only? thats ghey . . . this might be eligible to be used, i would ask. its semi only and capped at 10 bps . . .

[weefek]

yeah. they wouldn't even let me use my Dragun (cheap spyder electro clone).