no skill

[the other one]

I play in the woods with friends, and we have strategy, stealth, and one shot kills a lot of the time. What happened to that kind of playing? Does it take any skill to play speed ball? All you do is go to a bunker, and pull the trigger. You know exactly where people are most of the time. It doesn't seem as fun. Where's the skill?

[Henry_the_Lion5]

You've never played w/ Good speedball players have you? If your on the side that has no clue how speedball works no wonder you think it sucks

[the other one]

oh, i have played with people who are very good at speedball type games, and have played speedball games. Ive never found it to require much skill, thats all

[Henry_the_Lion5]

It takes alot of skill to play speedball You get on a speedball field where you have 2 good teams going at it then you'll like speedball, then if you don't then theres nothing wrong w/ that, your just weird, lol, no you just prefer games that are like real war don't ya? try a ibg senario if you havn't.

[133+ Player]

well your wrong

[AK47]

There is skill somewhere in every game you just don't see it. Break the game down then you will see why one team won and the things they did to make it happen

[wwhooper]

Well if there is no skill required in speedball, take say, team strange with all pumps and they'll giive your guys their normal markers and wactch them win

[green_goblin]

i would say speedball takes a hecka lota more skill than sneaking around :laugh:

[pb_fool]

imo speedball takes more skill and foreplanning. You have to know the field and the key bunkers. Then you need to learn to snap shoot and cover for teamates and look out for the dreaded bunkering move(or pull one yourself!)

Peace

[VeNoM]

yes more angles and startegy in speedball IMO . . . go on to a good speedball field (hyperball, airball etc..) with good players on it, thinking it takes no skill, you will get OWNED!! many players are a very good shot, can snap shoot well, move, use blind spots, communicate, stay cool and not get tunnel vision under pressure . . . i thikn it takes alot of skill . . . woods is slower paced and takes less skill IMHO.

[Dr. Isotope]

Comparing the two is like comparing CART and NASCAR: they both use cars; they both go fast; sometimes they both only turn left. But they are very different forms of racing. Ive seen woodsballers get wrecked on the speedball field, and watched speedballers get absolutely embarrased by guys with Tippmanns out in the trees.

Hey speedballers, you can't snap shoot the guy you can't see.

Hety woodsballers, you can't camoflauge yourself very well behind an eight-foot tall inflatable cylinder, either.

Apples and oranges. Hockey and Basketball. Woodsball and Speedball. :D

Can't we all just get along? :crazy:

[Ruffneck142000]

I can't stand playing big wood games, you have to sneak around for a hour to get into a minute shootout, which is the fun part. Why not cut out the 45min of board'em and get straight to the action. That is Speedball.

I have no problem with woods ball or scenario games, they are the roots and history of paintball. But the more I play paintball the more I move away from the woods, there may not be more skill in speedball but they are definitely different skills.

Speedball is all about speed, angles, timing, and teamwork

Woodsball is all about patience, strategy, and..................... did I say patience:D

[amz370]

well...first off both take their own skill
speed ball u have to be small and compact..fast and quick as lighting..loud and boysterus (sp)
wile wood su got to be like a shadow..silent ad hard to spot...can go ne where

[jfreak]

I like both, but as I have gotten to be a better player, I need to play speedball for more of a challenge. I like knowing where everyone is, and I like the challenge of being down 1 or 2 men and fighting back into a game. Might be kind of sick, but when you have a three on one, and you are the one, you better have mad skills. Basically, I look at it like this, When I want to relax and get some trigger time in, I take it into the woods. If I want tougher competition and a much larger adrenaline burst, I play speedball.

[Maximus]

I do not play woods very much because I find it boring... Too much sneaking around, waiting for some sucker to cross your path so you can unload on him! I know that there is alot more to woodsball than that, well maybe not.... I will say this, when I do play in the woods I almost always get spanked because I play so much speedball! I dont know what that means, but it must mean something!?!?

[Henry_the_Lion5]

Well, the way the reffs at our field sets the rules, its basicly playing speedball in the woods.

[Slipstream]

Dr. Isotope is correct - the two game styles are completely different.

I learned to play paintball long before there was this thing called "speedball." I played outdoor and indoor. Outdoor is still woodsball and it turns out that most fields' "speedball" is a whole lot like the old indoor paintball.

Both games make use of a simple strategy:
MOVE WITHOUT BEING SEEN.

In woodsball, to move without being seen means to sneak along in camo. This requires individual stealth - a personal skill. If you don't have it - you're someone else's target practice.

In speedball, to move without being seen means to have a teammate lay down cover fire and keep the opponent's head down. Then you run to the next cover/bunker but they don't SEE you do it. This requires communication and throwing paint. Throwing paint is not really a skill, but communication is a team skill. If you don't have it, you get stuck at a bunker and again, you're someone else's target practice.

Both games make use of another simple strategy:
HIT THEM FIRST.

In woodsball, that means lining up the sight, picking a trajectory that will go through the brush, and making the shot. Anyone can line up the sight, but knowing the trajectory through the brush takes skill.

In speedball, it means mentally picturing your opponent, popping up, and making the snap-shot. Snap-shooting is definitely a skill.

Note: markers with rapid fire are changing how hit them first works. Playing with an fast marker means you can just shoot through the brush or spray a little bit more during your snap-shot. If you as player have got the accuracy and the speed, then your marker sets the upper limit on your ability to hit them first.

Things to get the adrenalin going:
MULTIPLE OPPONENTS

In woodsball, if you see five spread out opponents, you sneak up one by one and make them quietly surrender. When you get down to two or so you might engage in a fire fight. Skill - move without being seen.

In speedball, if you see five spread out opponents, you first shoot the one with the best angle on you. Then you engage in a snap-shooting contest with the other four. Skill - shoot them first. BTW - in contests of one on one you need accuracy, but in constests of four to one you also need a high ROF.


Conclusion:
Both styles of play, woodsball and speedball, rely on accomplishing the same things but they go about them in completely different manners.

[TonyD246]

Now a more speedball type of game in the woods is what I love. It is like woodsball, w/out the 45 minute search where you could basically fall asleep. This is what I like to do.

Also, if someone doesn't like what they are playing, they play bad. That may be why you speedball guys suck in the woods and woodsball guys suck on the feild. When I don't like where I'm playing, I play really bad, but when I do like it, I dominate. That's how it is for me.

[Micewheelz72]

The type of woods ball I play is a bit different. The people I play with find camo to be useless unless everything you own is camo. Our games are fast (well, compared to the ones you guys describe). One game lasted about 2 minutes. Others around 15. The longest woods game Ive played was 30 minutes. Its all about how you play it. If you dont care about the enemy knowing your position, then move fast and get a decent position (my personal favorite thing to do). Then duke it out in a fire fight. In our games, sneaking doesnt work (mainly because theres no underbrush or low cover...). You sneak, we run you down. (or attempt to anyway). Ive found woods ball to be very similar to speedball. The only reason I play woods ball is because its cheaper than paying field fees....

[the other one]

thankyou Dr. Isotope and Slipstream for clearing it up a bit. But some people who just say "it takes more skill to play speedball" without giving a reason are not very smart. In speedball, you don't have to worry about the angle of the hill or how the shadows are making your vision blurry or at any moment you could get shot out because you have no idea where anyone is. I have played 5 min. games and half hour games, and they are fun. I think everyone should be good at both, then they can see the difference. Im usually on the winning team in a speedball game, so i do know how to play, but had found it fast-paced, but without as much thought and skill... oh well

[Radius]

I like Dr. Isotope's response. They are two different games with two different strategies. You can't really compare them except to say it's paintball.

Most people will gravitate towards a particular style of paintball they like the most and develop their skills to match. Putting a hardcore woodsie onto a speedball field has the same effect of doing the opposite, that person will probably get lit up all the time because their skills don't match the game.

You really can't compare them.

[xXhappyAznXx]

dude speedball is a game of elimination
it takes skills to eliminate
and it takes skills to not be eliminated
its crazy
its like non stop firing and you gotta have skills to be able to hide from fire and fire back
its just crazy that way