Bushy

[method84]

The bushmaster is way underated at this forum all I hear is impulse impulse when in fact it is a bushmaster knock-off. I think newbies need to get their facts straight when upgrading to an electro. The impulse is just horrible in my opinion. The trigger sucks,its ugly as all hell, its tall with that reg at the bottom. I dont see how anyone would be able to shoot fats with that gun without getting a trigger job and a gadget grip. And it lacks the upgrades....

[ds613]

What upgrades does it need in your opinion and not have?

[JesterDude15]

The bushmaster is way underated at this forum all I hear is impulse impulse when in fact it is a bushmaster knock-off.

The Shocker was THE first evey Electronic gun. Why would smart parts need to copy ICD to get a design for a type of gun THEY invented????

I think newbies need to get their facts straight when upgrading to an electro.

Please read the above response and straiten up YOUR facts.


The trigger sucks

No, it doesent, could fire much faster with a long fast trigger than a short mushy trigger.

its ugly as all hell
And the Bushy isnt???


its tall with that reg at the bottom
Thats why they make a Vertical reg set-up


And it lacks the upgrades....
Stock guns dont have upgrades. Upgrade are what you put on a gun after you buy it.

[method84]

you get your facts straigh "newbie" I have been playing for 3 years and I know what I am talking about. The impulse is a totally different design from the shocker and you know it. Its suppose to be smaller and lighter claims smart parts but its a POS and its very unreliable. Smart Parts has horrible customer service, the gun is tall and ugly, the bushmaster comes in color and milling, it has more modes of fire (although pointless), it has ICD's nice customer service, very upgradable (check obdo.net "newbie") and it has been around longer (reliablility facor. Cant help to mention that crappy trigger on the imuplse. If you want your impulse to compete with a bushmaster you need a trigger job, vertical air or gadget grip, and then we could talk. Till then, you get your facts straight "newbie"

[elTwitcho]

Well, arguably then you could say that the bushy is an angel knockoff, because they both involve hammer/valve operations, and the angel in turn was just an electronic spyder, which in turn was just a rip off on the VM-68. So we're all just copying the VM68. As for being similar, true they're both stacked tube, but the impulse has no LPR meaning the bolt moves around at 180 psi giving it a "unique" feel. I say "unique" 'cause some people really like it, and I think it's nasty. The bushy on the other hand uses an LPR, meaning the bolt/hammer assembly moves with alot less force and therefore has a different feel to it. By the same token though the impulse operates at a slightly lower PSI than the bushy (maybe the vapors run at 180, dunno really). The comparison could go on forever

[Ez8]

does the bushy work as well on co2?I think thats what makes the impulse so great for poor people like me. As soon as i find a team and have upgraded my vtl ill be picking one up. To bad i suck:P!

[method84]

just get a Palmer Stabilizer reg and you can pop in Co2 on a bushy

[Ez8]

did you notice the "I am poor" statement. Bushys are more expensive then a impulse. Why pay more and then have to pay even more for aftermarket upgrades. When i can pay less for something that has every thing i need and a kickazz regulator and gun

[july_favre]

How much are impulses these days? I though they were $450 which is the same as a bushmaster. I agree that the bushmaster is underrated on these forums but I dont think the impulse is crap. It just seemds that everyone here thinks that the new thing it the best. The guy who does the vapor said that he can get the vapors under150 psi easy and alot lower. He doesnt want to lose effeciency though.i Think the bushy and angel are the only 2 guns that can have every feature available on any electro and the bushy does it for alot less. Acually the bushy doesnt have the air assist which ive hear doesnt work very well and can acually cause a slower feed but Ive nver had any experience with it(probably just started a big rumor that isnt true. As the far as the triggers go, with a new adjustable trigger the impulse will have one just as good as a bushy, and the bushmaster has an adjustable trigger already at 3 points. It does lack a tension adjuster unless you get an aftermarket frame but a simple spring change wll make it snappier. The impulse is easier to bounce the trigger only because it has more kick like elTwitcho was talking about, but i would rather have less kick than more trigger bounce.

[Richy_C]

this thread was made to incit a riot, and bushys are differant guns, and i want to know why the hell this thread exists. Just because u've been plaing 3 years dosn't mean you'r always rght

[JesterDude15]

I am not a newbie.


Even I can admit I am not always right.


The only reason I did not get a bushy is because of the mushy trigger and you could only run it off C02 by upgrading and I dont beleive in upgrading a gun to make it work.

I bought an Impulse because the trigger took a liking to me and by the time you get a Gadget grip on an Impulse it cost $10 more than a stock Bushy. You need a better reg for the bushy to make it work on C02, another 50. Thats a $500 set up to get a Bushy to work on C02. I got my Impulse for $420 and it works on C02, add a gadget grip for $40 and thats $460. Performance wise they are close to the same though.

And stop calling me a newbie. I have been playing for 1 1/2 years myself.

[method84]

well if your too poor to afford nitro then maybe you shouldnt play so quit your whining. Bushmaster works fine off of co2 for less than 100 more. I wouldnt even want co2 in my gun it is the gas of the devil. Sorry but a bushmaster is a better gun and a lot of impulse owners are so insecure about their gun they are to blind to see it. Someone close this thread because its pointless and I dont feel like posting anymore.

[ds613]

You could delete it

[Richy_C]

Originally posted by method84
well if your too poor to afford nitro then maybe you shouldnt play so quit your whining
that was so incredibly stupid, i don't use nitro, so i shouldn't play right? so everyone that dosn't have nitro gen should quit? well then, i guess 85% of all players are poor because they don't pay for nitro. gee, darn.


what a loser

[Xpert Rifleman]

I own a Cocker but I am looking for a new electro gun. Both the Imp and the Bushy are on the top of my list. Here is how I see it.

IMP=$400
Advantge
-Better stock barrel
-Works better on Co2 then Nitro. (MaxFlow has filter to keep dirty Co2 out)
-Seems more reliable
-No max rof
-Cheap air source ($50 20oz with on/off and anti siphon)
-Better reg.

Disadvatage
-It's from Smarts Parts
-Color adds $50
-Ugly
-Tall without vert reg.
-Trigger

BUSHY=$450
Advantage
-Many modes
-Free colors
-ICD customer service
-Delern bolt (spelling)
-Better milling
-Adjustable trigger

Disadvatages
-Friend's broke using C02. :(
-Barrel
-Reg.
-Friend's had broken wires from factory. :(
-Ugly

The bottom line is this. You can get a Imp with adjustable trigger (www.wermmods.com) for about $450 and have a better reg and barrel. That is why I am prob. getting an Imp.

[method84]

dont forget the gadget grip (500)....better off getting bushy if you have nitro if not then get the cheaper gun...bushy is way better. Reg isnt as bad as you say it is and the barrel is actually decent. I still use it. With a bushy you only need a macro line house and a tank and your ready to go. I dont see why all you people think its so expensive. You get a 50 dollar 20oz co2 tank with anti syphon. For 100 more you can get a 68 / 3000 PSI. I am not seeing the connection. And ricky, just about every tournament player uses nitro. Its more consisten and cleaner. Shut your mouth boy.

[july_favre]

Hey xpert, you should factor in future upgrades-thats what made me choose the bushy over an impulse, matrix, timmy etc. I could get any gun at wholesale but i chose the bushy. If you think the angel is cool and has alot of cool features, why not get it for half as much? With a 200$ upgrade a bushmaster will have everything that an angel has and some that it doesnt. You can even get a personal greeting on it? You also have the option of getting an anti chop eye for $100+ less, intellifeed etc. You can have a bushmaster that has all the gizmos and the performance of angel, with an anti chop eye, intellifeed, with money left over for a barrel set and nitro for the price of a stock angel. Try to get the angel running along side with this setup and look at spending $2000+ bucks.

[Edited by july_favre on 05-23-2001 at 09:10 PM]

[method84]

thank you farve...finally, somone actually sensible on this topic. I added somewhere in here the lack of upgrades the impulse had I already know the theroy and thats why I chose the bushmaster also. Its the poor mans angel. With a few upgrades it is an angel and can be better than an angel. The chaos chip, itellifeed, LPR, HPR, you name it, theres an upgrade for it. Thanks again farve.

[SPYdre]

Originally posted by method84
With a few upgrades it is an angel and can be better than an angel.

I don't beleive you, but won't bother to fuel the fire any more and let you go on with your Ranting!

[method84]

oh I can rant because the angel isnt worth it in my eyes. Your paying for a gun that has 26 modes of fire. 25 of which you cant use...Just my views so dont nobody say anything ;]

[JesterDude15]

well if your too poor to afford nitro then maybe you shouldnt play so quit your whining.


---Why would I buy a hundred+ $ N2 System if I dont need it????



Sorry but a bushmaster is a better gun and a lot of impulse owners are so insecure about their gun they are to blind to see it


ummmm....WRONG!!!!!!

Someone close this thread because its pointless and I dont feel like posting anymore.


You started it...it looks like Impulse freaks have finished it.....

[Ez8]

O method you have revealed my ignorant ways. Thank you , bless your soul! I sould go out and waste hundreds so i can get a nitro setup instead of saving money for buying a imp that has everything i need to run co2 at a tourny level. You have saved me from my idoitic ways. Bless you method. Now ill go back to being poor so i never have to bother you rich people who are so much better and higher then us drain rats. thank you...

[JesterDude15]

LOL!!!!

[MateoTheConquerer]

The Impulse is the Shockers Son and The shocker is one of THE TITANS

[Xpert Rifleman]

I have a Crossfire 68/3000 tank for my cocker, but the the fills are about a half an hour away. I can get C02 10 min. away....

[Omega6_Virus]

July, how much would it cost to have a bushmaster with everything the timmy has? minus barrels

[Richy_C]

Originally posted by method84
And ricky, just about every tournament player uses nitro. Its more consisten and cleaner. Shut your mouth boy.

good for them! what if its a recp baller locking for the edge? they are fifferant guns, to each hisown!! i'll let you like the bushy if you let me like the impulse ok?

[theomacy]

this thread has become very hostile

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by theomacy
this thread has become very hostile


What was your first clue????

was it the Bushy guy telling lies or the Bushy guy saying 85% of the paintball world should not be playing????

[method84]

im not a cheap ******* like you http://nick.discant.org/bushy5.gif now thats a hell of a gun. Its a bad pic because of the flash but oh well

[Richy_C]

now did we say that bushies suck? no, did i try to keep peace, yes. Just have your own opinion and let us hav ours. And how do you know jesters poor? We don't want nitr, we don't need nirto, so why are you saying that? No one is going to win this threads argument, method is too ignorant, and jester and i are smart parts frieks. method, if you keep this up, you will be banned.

[method84]

oh no.,....theres hundreds of places to post. Like I said before ricky...internet threats dont sccare me.

[july_favre]

Omega-it would be $710, 570 for the bushmaster lcd, 140 for the ace.

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by Richy_C
Just have your own opinion and let us hav ours.


Why cant people understand this. I will have you know I am not opinionated....I am just always right.

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by Richy_C
And how do you know jesters poor?



I'll have you know I could have got Nitro if I wanted to. I just did not NEED it as near all Da*m Electronic guns do. Dwell on that fruit.

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by Richy_C
No one is going to win this threads argument, method is too ignorant, and jester and i are smart parts frieks.

me and you can take pride in that!!!

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by Richy_C
method, if you keep this up, you will be banned.


The gods at work!

[Xpert Rifleman]

I know where you got that Avatar Theomacy!!!!:):):)

[Sacattack]

Forget all the BUSSHY and Impulse stuff Both of them cant hold up to the Shocker.....

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by Omega6_Virus
July, how much would it cost to have a bushmaster with everything the timmy has? minus barrels

Not including fade anno and milling it's about the same or very slightly cheaper. Though you'll never get the BL customer service (ICD is awesome though) and I feel the bushy is a smaller gun, which comes at the price of balance. The bushy does not balance as nicely in my opinion, and I can get very tight to my bunker with my timmy, though some people want even smaller, so the bushy may be for them. Only problem, is if tourneys other than the NPPl support the NPPl ruling on boards, the bushy will no longer be tourney usable with the chaos eye, which kinda sucks. Ah, and timmies now come from Bob with a 32 bps limit, which is changeable through the DIPs to 75. Fastest gun on the market, Twitcho says yes. Possible to get your ROF over 20? Twitcho says not unless you got some mad skill. But that's besides the point :)

[july_favre]

The chaos actually has an unlimited rate of fire like it makes a difference though.

[SPYdre]

Originally posted by method84
http://nick.discant.org/bushy5.gif now thats a hell of a gun. Its a bad pic because of the flash but oh well

In your opinion it is. To me thats a waste of good sheet metal. but that would be my opinion. as long as you like your gun, thats GREAT!!!. we all have different opinions of stuff. Can't you understand that!!!

[method84]

well, with a choas chip I would ream your *** all over the field with that apthetic angel.

[Richy_C]

how do you know that you could? Just what would you say if SPYDre was on lockout, or rage? you would get stomped, and i doubt you have as much talent as you think you do, it's easy to be all big and bad behind a modem, but would you be talking **** like this at the field?

[SPYdre]

Originally posted by method84
well, with a choas chip I would ream your *** all over the field with that apthetic angel.

I'd just like to know how a Chip is gonna make YOU a better player.???

[method84]

never said it would....look up there did I?

[ds613]

You didn't say it directly, but you pretty much did say it.

[Edited by ds613 on 05-25-2001 at 05:58 PM]

[Ez8]

great method and some others likes bushys and me, ricky, jester, and some others like imps. Wow amazing i just summed up all of the post here, its MAGIC(hint of sarcasm can't you just smell it?)

so now why are we getting into life or death post here? People confuse me...

[Ez8]

ooh and i have nothing against bushy's i just perfer a imp. No biggie...

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by Sacattack
Forget all the BUSSHY and Impulse stuff Both of them cant hold up to the Shocker.....

uggghhhhh. The Impulse and the Shocker perform exactly the same.....

[Sacattack]

I beg to differ i have shot both and the shocker is much better, it has alittle more range it is quieter and it is somewhat more accurate.

[SPYdre]

Originally posted by method84
never said it would....look up there did I?

Well by saying

"with a choas chip I would ream your *** all over the field with that apthetic angel."

Sound pretty much like that if you didn't have a Choas Chip, you wouldn't do so, But Now if i WAITED until you Got this Choas Chip(Hence the "with a choas chip"part) You would and i Quote: "ream my *** all over the field".

So yeah it sounds like you are saying that you'd play better with this chip.

[method84]

please, lets not fight anymore its stupid and immature.

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by Sacattack
I beg to differ i have shot both and the shocker is much better, it has alittle more range it is quieter and it is somewhat more accurate.

in the words of Nemesis.

Yes, the Fairys, gnomes and pixy dust make it shoot farther.

Explain to me How it can be more accurate???
Good reg = Consistency:
They both have the same reg so the Consistency is the same.
Good consistency = good accuracy:
They have the same consistency so HOW could one of them be better. They have the same guts and it has been proven that a closed bolt makes your gun a little less accurate than an open bolt. They have the same guts and run below 200 PSI.

It is not logical to say the Shocker is better than the Impulse.

[Richy_C]

Originally posted by JesterDude15
Originally posted by Sacattack
I beg to differ i have shot both and the shocker is much better, it has alittle more range it is quieter and it is somewhat more accurate.

in the words of Nemesis.

Yes, the Fairys, gnomes and pixy dust make it shoot farther.

Explain to me How it can be more accurate???
Good reg = Consistency:
They both have the same reg so the Consistency is the same.
Good consistency = good accuracy:
They have the same consistency so HOW could one of them be better. They have the same guts and it has been proven that a closed bolt makes your gun a little less accurate than an open bolt. They have the same guts and run below 200 PSI.

It is not logical to say the Shocker is better than the Impulse.

they are pretty differant internally, missing a spleen on the impulse

[ds613]

They have almost no guts that are the same.(It says this in the Impulse manual.) The reg. and solenoid (but the Shocker has 2 different solenoids) are pretty much the only things that are the same.

[Edited by ds613 on 05-28-2001 at 01:04 AM]

[method84]

for one it doesnt have LPR

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by method84
please, lets not fight anymore its stupid and immature.

[method84]

Originally posted by JesterDude15
Originally posted by method84
please, lets not fight anymore its stupid and immature.

and your point is.....

[Ez8]

aaaargh! Did my magic funyun power not work. HAve you all gone INSANE(like me). Its as simple as this You say tomatato i say funyuns. FUNYUNS. I like imps, method likes bushy's. Great Its not like im going to change methods preferences or he is going to change mine. Oh well This is all pointless now so i m going to sing the doom song doom doom doom doooom doom doom doooooom doom dom dooom doom dooom doom doom doooom dm dom dooom doom doom dooom doom doom doom dooom...

[SPYdre]

Originally posted by method84
please, lets not fight anymore its stupid and immature.

Too each his Own Then

[Killers Are Quiet]

Originally posted by JesterDude15

Yes, the Fairys, gnomes and pixy dust make it shoot farther.



so where can i pick up said pixy dust;)

[JesterDude15]

Originally posted by Killers Are Quiet
Originally posted by JesterDude15

Yes, the Fairys, gnomes and pixy dust make it shoot farther.



so where can i pick up said pixy dust;)

3324 Washington Ave. Go down three lights and take a left. You will see a store called "Fairys, gnomes, and pixy dust" , you cant miss it.

[Creek]

I got a batch being made in the bath tube right now should be cook off in about a hour.
I be sending free samples out soon. By the way you got too be 55 to buy it or a note from you kid saying you can have it.:)j/k

[JesterDude15]

you can make gnomes with:
Dragon flies
katy dids
but mostly chewed up little kids.

Bake that for an hour on 350* and soon enough a couple of gnomes should just pop right outta there.

[krasher]

I don't know if this has been said, because I didn't have time to read the whole thread but...

The impulse is very different from the bushy, mainly regarding the fact that the impulse has no LPR...

In any case the impulse is not a rip-off of the bushy. Personally, I think both guns are ugly :) I actually prefer the looks of a shocker to either :D

[p8ntballMerc]

Why are you guys not sharing some of those pixy dust? I need my RAINMAKER to shoot fast too!! (I dont have a rainmaker im just kiddin.) LOL

I HOPE YOU GUYS WITH TIMMYs, IMPs, AND BUSHYs WILL MEET EACH OTHER IN A FIELD AND HAVE A BIG WAR!!

I'll be the ref.

[elTwitcho]

Who needs a ref when I've got an M60 Squad automatic Weapon? Oh, "paintball war", gotcha

[p8ntballMerc]

Yes a paintball war. lol! I forgot I just put a big war. I understood your misunderstanding. I'm SORRY.

I need to get laid by TYRA BANKS to get my head straight.
(get it, HEAD)

MMmm I can sure go for some BUFFET right now. I'm hungry.
(I like steaks and lobsters!)

[method84]

WW3 outbreak!!! Kill Kill Kill all Impulse owners!!! Die!1!!!! j/k