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ghosthunter
05-19-2001, 10:00 AM
how does one go about effectively cleaning and maintaining a gun- and specifically how does one go about do cleaning and maintaining and electro, specifically the impulse

Longbow_UMD
05-20-2001, 10:24 AM
See this is what I like to refer to as "Jeff Gordon Syndrome." It's when somebody has the money to get themselves the best equipment, but it still can't buy them the basic info they need. Somebody who doesn't know the basic concepts of cleaning and maintaining a gun should NOT get a fraggin' electro! Start out on something that won't blow up in a puff of acrid thousand-dollar electrical smoke if you don't take perfect care of it.

And ghosthunter, it's not just you I'm talking about, you were just the straw that broke my camel's back. So don't take anything personally. Just get a damn Stingray. :-)

dawgs712
05-20-2001, 10:52 AM
if you have the money buy a compact fro like 70 used. then look at it to see how to clean and maintain it before you go bustin up an electro

ds613
05-20-2001, 11:02 AM
Impulses are very simple to clean and grease if you read the manual! I don't understand why people say electros are so complicated? Maybe some are but not Impulses.

ds613
05-20-2001, 11:04 AM
Read the manual, and regrease it after every day of playing paintball.

ghosthunter
05-21-2001, 10:17 AM
hey longbow i know you said not to take it personally but you still think youre hot s**t, dont you? well anyway some of us dont have the money (im in high school) to go around wasting it on some crappy gun that youre going to grow out of in a couple weeks- lets look at it this way say i theoretically have $400 to spend- i go buy a stingray which ends up costing me around $100 total, now i have $300 total. Soon i outgrow the stingray and yes i know the gun does not make the player but it also limits his ability to play well. i.e. a pro with a stingray VS a pro with a cocker (pros are of the same ability) the guy with the cocker will eliminate the guy with the stingray more often just due to the higher fire rate, better acuracy and longer range. Now that i have outgrown the stingray i only have $300 no lets say $330 b/c i sold the stingray- now I could have bought a cocker for that $400 except now i only have enough for a good spyder which i soon outgrow and have to spend more money to eventually get the decent gun i was originally intending to purchase. so i end up spending around $800 instead of $400- which in the long run is not good investing which longbow im sure you have no idea about,- also longbow if you know as much about paintball as you claim to then you would know that an impulse does not nearly cost $1000 and also i am not a newbie cause i know i could sure as hell i could smoke you

ganman
05-21-2001, 12:29 PM
well if cant even clean a gun hhow r u better then him, also its called a manual, and no1 ever siad u should get a ray, u could could get s pyder and it would be fine, and u should if u can t even figuar out how to clean an impulse wen they come with a manual

ghosthunter
05-21-2001, 03:36 PM
dude as you can see by my signature i am figuring out what to buy for a gun and i was trying to assertain how hard an impulse is to maintain and clean

mikek2111987
05-21-2001, 03:47 PM
since i cant play that often, i just totally dis-asemble my gun when i get home,get any paint out of it and oil it

ganman
05-21-2001, 05:05 PM
if u never owned a paintball gun b4 i would recomend geting the impulse its eaier to care for, and its retty easy to figure it out once u get the manaul,AND impulses preform alot better stock then a stock cocker, and they take C02 reall well, BUT if want to to spend a lot of time working and tricking ur marker ,and paying 4 upgrades id recomend the cocker, oh yah u can still upgrade an impulese but they dont need it.

iipaintballer
05-21-2001, 06:16 PM
Neither of the 2 markers are very good starter markers. They are not very easy to maintain. Nevertheless, I agree with Ganman between the two I would take the impulse. The cocker, although cheaper, is much more difficult to maintain. There are timing and maintenance issues that even some players not new to the sport have difficulty troubleshooting.

The impulse, on the other hand, has less parts to maintain. So, if you have a problem, either it will be easy to fix, for example a ball break. Or you are screwed, like the chip breaks or malfunctions.

So pros and cons:
a/c pro: cheaper, more aftermarket parts, more people know how to fix
a/c con: difficult to learn how to fix, hard to install aftermarket parts ig you dont know aht you are doing, overall higher technical skill required to maintain.

Impulse pro: electronic, faster bps
Impulse con: more expensive, if it breaks you are screwed, less aftermarket parts.

Both of the choices that the markers provide you may be a little too much for a beginner player. However, if you feel that you are technically inclined and can afford it, I would reccommend the impulse for a beginner. It is a hit or miss.

ghosthunter
05-22-2001, 03:25 PM
thanks iipaint that was actually the first bit of actuall advice and information i have found on these forums most of it is just a bunch of colloquy. The autococker i would be purchasing however would not be stock, but rather a freeflow or coldfusion cocker- i know this may make some people raise their eyebrows. However my friend can get them for around lets just say much cheaper than otherwise one would be charged for this maginifigant piece of metalworking and i have another friend who is an autococker expert to boot. so if anyone has anything else to say on this seeing as how the gun is simply not a "stock" cocker i would be welcome to comments just not the kind from longbow

oh and thanks again iipaint

ds613
05-22-2001, 04:10 PM
If I were you, I would get the cocker. Especially since you can get help maintaining it. Also one thing that I don't think anyone mentioned is that Impulses come with an excellent manual for the gun and a second one for the maxflo regulator. I don't know about the cockers you are talking about, but the 2000 and 2001 cockers don't have a very good manual IMO.

If you want to see some aftermarket parts for the Impulse, go to: http://www.wermmods.com

Kornithium
05-22-2001, 04:29 PM
With my m98 w\ flatline it was a little difficult to clean it at first but i found a way! I turn my gun upside down and realise the hopper latch and then turn it around again so the hopper is still upside down. I bought a squeegee that is a long chord with some ribber things on it with spaceers and a fuzzy end. I clipped off the fuzzy end because it wouldnt fit. Anyways i run the end of the chord first then pull it out the barrel as the rest of the squeegee follows.

05-22-2001, 05:34 PM
Gees this is a no brainer if he wants to know how to clean his gun LOOK IN THE MANUAL derrr

iipaintballer
05-22-2001, 05:47 PM
Thanks ghosthunter...

If you do have a friend that is proficient at maintaining cockers. I would then reccommend the cocker. You can learn alot from your friend in that case, also, if anything happens you have someone local who can assist you with your marker.

ghosthunter
05-23-2001, 02:44 PM
thanks everyone i decided to get the cocker once i finalize(is that a word) the purchase and bring it home then ill put up a pic and the specs just to show off

ds613
05-23-2001, 07:24 PM
Gees this is a no brainer if he wants to know how to clean his gun LOOK IN THE MANUAL derrr

Some guns don't have much of a manual.

ganman
05-23-2001, 07:47 PM
both the guns he mentioned do