New marker hits Wally world

[PGA1234]

I was at walmart the other day and they had a new marker. $50 it looks like it is a copy of the aggresor. I forgot who makes it though. I was wondering if anyone else has seen them or is it just my walmart?

[141db]

$50 for a brand new semi auto? that's pretty cheap

[green_goblin]

yah its plastic, i think its a viewloader..

[PGA1234]

Originally posted by 141db
$50 for a brand new semi auto? that's pretty cheap

... You get what you pay for

Oh yeah I think it is a viewloader

[firemoth]

a copy of the aggressor? Kingman puts agressors into Wally, just some features taken away its called the Agressor XT. But $50??!

[DeFauLt]

triton?

[The Inflicted]

I bet what you saw was a Brass Eagle Marauder, which is a plastic version of the BE Avenger with a different grip and body. Being a stacked-tube blowback semi encased in an El Cheapo polymer frame, I bet it performs the same way as a PMI Rampage/Black Maxx/Traccer SA or Spyder Mini/Sport.

Here's Action Village's picture of it: http://store6.yimg.com/I/actionvillage_1690_92579642

I don't mind things like plastic trigger frames and such, but when you build a Spyder-type gun out of plastic you're creating a gun where the pressure of the CO2 is put directly on the walls of the frame. I'm not sure if I trust that. Even the BE Talon/Tigershark/Stingray guns never used plastic to bare the pressure of gas, they always had metal internals and powertubes to carry it. Anyone remember the problem PMI had with Rampages rupturing and exploding from the pressure?

[PGA1234]

Yeah that's it. I don't think I would trust that either :eek:

[MoToMaStR]

:love: wow! i want 1!!! no... i want 5 of them!!!!!! lol.... jesus H christ dude.... thats gotta be the uglyist POS ive ever seen, besides the point that the pressure is cased in plastic.... and frozen plastic shrapnel probably isnt kinda to the humanoid's cell structure. may cause sever hull damage. hahaha! i sure hope nobody gets injured from one of them. that would make paintball look pretty bad if a kid had to get plastic shrapnel take out of his hand from his gun exploding :|

[MeGotzGriffin]

you lessoffs...(opposite of a moron)...the gun obviously doesnt have plastic internals...these guns have to be tested, first before they are sold anywhere in the world...so they wouldnt make a guns internals out of plastic...even as stupid as Brass eagle is they wouldnt be dumb enough to make plastic internals...

[The Inflicted]

Plastic internals are not the problem, it's the body I'm worried about, specifically the valve chamber area. Now, I know that you can use microline and macroline safely, but that polycarbonate is much more flexible than this stuff. What you're looking at is a plastic gun with metal internals, not the other way around. In fact, plastic internals are a good thing. Ever heard of cup seals, or delrin bolts? The problem comes from the fact that on a Spyder-type gun the full input pressure is exerted on the valve chamber, and unless this thing as some sort of metal insert for this part of the lower tube, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't, you're looking at 800psi or more being exerted on a thin plastic cylinder.
As far as testing, the PMI Rampage passed inspection just fine, and it wasn't until some post-certification testing done in-house by PMI that it was discovered how the Rampage's valve chamber can fail catastrophically.
Also, don't blame this idea on the Eagle. PMI, Kingman, and whoever was behind the Model 83 were the first to try this idea.

[firemoth]

When I had my Spyder Sport, it had a metal tube in the valve chamber. I'm pretty sure this one does to. How cant it? Why are you sure it doesn't?

[DasBaldDog]

Ummmm.... you're questioning the safety of these things...

Like someone (I'm too lazy to check who) said, they test these things.

Also remember (although you zygotes are probably too young to remember Paintball's heydays) the GZ2000, Splatmaster, Splatmaster Rapide, Grumman 10T, and many other older markers that were entirely polycarbide plastics.... except the hammer and valve. Heck even the bolts were plastic in alot of cases.

Those guns performed EXCELLENTLY.