Woods Ball

[tonysk83]

Ok, i have a tippmann, i play in the woods a lot, but why is a tippmann considered the best in the woods.

[Chad51]

In general the reason people prefer Tippmann's in the woulds is that they can take anything you could put them through and keep on working. You can also customize them very much and make them shoot about as fast as a cocker with the right upgrades. They are also great for beginners because they shoot great right out of the box. The only upgrade they really need is a new barrel just like every other gun.

[pbguy888]

Yeah mostly cause there built like a tank.

[automagsrule]

Cuz in the woods Tippy owners can hide, that way no one laughs at them because they cant find them.

[tonysk83]

automags a built like tanks, my field rents them out, so what makes a tippy better then an auto mag in the woods, they r small, durible, light, compact

[rizyan]

Well no one ever said Tippmanns are better....it's probably just most people have never played with an automag or just simply prefer their Tippmann.

[JUMBOshrimp]

Can't comment on Mags Cause I dont own one -- Most fields Rent tippys Cause they are HARDCORE-- Easy to maintain and Cheap for what you get.

The Strongest gun I have Ever seen Is the Pro/Carb-- Ask the original players that have played since the begining and they will tell you. Smg60user Im looking in your general direction.

Tippmanns are Great all arround guns-- As far as Efficency -ROF- accuracy. Everyone from the Top to the Bottom knows how they work and what parts they need if ever. They are just built to last.

In the end For fields Its the Most cost efective gun -- For the Beginer player It has all the Out of box playability/ease of use you could ask for-- and for the Advance The 98s have almost as many upgrades and Mods a Spyder or a Cocker you can make them Ultra fast -- electronic-- low pressure--anything your little heart could desire.

JÜMBOshrimp

[specter542]

tippmann's own the woods. you shouldn't need to ask "why" lol.

[tonysk83]

i dont know why an angel cant own the woods, or a cocker, or a impulse, they r better guns than a tippmann, better rof, etc.

[Rolo]

I think the reason tippmann get the rep as being a good woods gun stems from the fact that they are so reliable. Angels, cockers, etc. may have the capability to be "better" guns, i won't argue that, but you just won't see them in woods that often. A friend of ours plays with a cocker, and its a Freeflow, so its not exactly crap, but his just wasn't as reliable as my 68-carbine, or some other kid's m98, and he spent most of his time trying to fix it.

I guess the other part of it is is $. Most of the kids who play woods dont have the money to buy high end guns, or nitro, so that path just isnt an option for them. You are probably also more likely to break a gun in a woods/scenario game just because u will probably at one time or another be forced to do something crazy that you wouldn't do at a turney, and risk damaging your gun. I know i have been forced a couple of times through brush sideways while shooting, and I smashed into several trees(I'm a big dumb animal). I couldn't say if that would have broken other guns, but it didnt do anything to mine.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that "no", tippmann's don't necessarily dominate woods ball because of how well/fast they shoot, or anything like that. They dominate woods because they are solid, reliable, and affordable guns, with the potential to be upgraded as much as you want.

Just my $0.02

[paint_suey]

dude cocker is reliable if know how to freakin use the thing. nothing should go wrong if you don't screw it up. i think if anything the old-school mag owns the woods.

it's a simple design that's easier than the tippmann!

[3Fingered Jack]

It's simple. The masses play woods ball. The masses buy cheaper guns. The masses buy Tippmanns. Why was this thread ever started? Of course there are better guns than Tippmanns in ANY style of play. Referring to the first post, who ever said Tippmanns are the best in the woods? However, they may be the most common.

[sniper14]

the masses play speed ball. wood ball is some what dying out(from some of the stuff i have read) personally i would take a Tippmann over just about any gun, if it was a Mag i probally would give up the Tippmann, but i dont have the experiance for a cocker, and just about any other high end gun i would no doubt break. i have used a spyder b 4(i know that is low) and it broke by the end of the day. i cant remeber what broke. and another thing, corect me if i am wrong but dont all Tippmanns come w/ a elbow, so u dont have to use those *** clear plastic ones that always break? i know the Pro/Carbine, the 98, and the A-5 do but what about Tippmanns other guns?

[3Fingered Jack]

Originally posted by sniper14
the masses play speed ball. wood ball is some what dying out

You sure about that? :rolleyes:

http://www.pbreview.com/sympoll/polllist.php3

Third from the top.

[sniper14]

i not too sure about the dying out part(i read it somewhere dont remeber, but if u think about it pb started in the woods and most people play speed ball, u do the math), but the speedball it am confadent(sp) about, but i concider speedball to be any thing that isnt in the woods. i dont know the exact diff

[tonysk83]

whats this considered, i play a game at my field, it is suppose to be themed like a bombed out town, no tree, on you have to capture medical supplies from the center and return them to the enimies tower. If you want pics go to www.challengepark.com

[sniper14]

it is kind of like speed ball, but it isnt, u know wat i mean? but it isnt in the woods, that is wat i am talking about. but anyway i have seen that place on the web, it looks friggen awsome, i dont know if i would like to play there more than the woods, i just love playing in the woods.

[tonysk83]

yea it is really fun playing there, the bad part is im afraid im going to cut my knee of a piece of metal, there is so much junk

[Tommy_pball]

well when u think of woods ball what kind of gun do think of first (other than little kids runnin around with talons and stingrays) tippmanns...or at least thats what i think of.

[BlackMagic23]

first all start with the tippmans being great woods guns. there ok but i think spyders and mags and cockers are better. personally i dont like tippmans i think they suck. but thats my opinion. i have owned a stingray(long time ago), a spyder SE, a bushmaster, and now a blackmagic cocker, plus i have played with other guns like tippmans which are good in sum cases but not good if you play against someone good with a good gun. And about woods ball dying out. i dont thinks its dying out speedball is just becomming more popular but people that play speedball still play woods ball in a lot of cases.

[smg60user]

I have played a long time and I have never seen a "mag" or "tippy" out in the woods self-animated and playing against each other all by themselves. I think that each of the players behind the guns are to blame or reward. Tippy users running about in the woods like banshees (me) who care about the win are what make the game what it is for us. The other owners who perch behind stumps, 10 yards from the creek to prevent getting excess moisture into their rigs, and trying to shield them from too much dirt paint a picture of their preclusion to protect the rig, not win the day. Of course these are the 2 extremes of stereotypes, but they are farily accurate to those to whom they apply. I will admit here that I have never owned an Angel or cocker. I have played against them, and know their lethality. But I have never, EVER, seen a cocker owner follow me down a muddy slope into a creek. I have owned a mag. I was delighted with it. It was very small, solidly built, quiet as he**, and was quite nice indeed. I was fooled by this. I did jump into a creek, held it in my hand as I clawed my way up the other side. Scummy mud and crap in the tube, and I ended being out the rest of the day determining that I needed to get a new set of orings and such. That did not fix it. I ended spending about 80 bucks on the "rebuild kit" and it still did not work right. I also had to spend 80 bucks on the cheapest nitro tank to try and not mess it up using Co2. Anyhow. I would not have had to stop playing that day had I been using a Tippy. All the sweetness of the mag disappeared when I had to quit that day. I can't count the time other guys lost having to go rechagrge their boo-yah frames on other guns. Or the time that the cocker guy (gen-x) took one on the rod with a marballizer. It bent his rod or got some paint and dirt in the works or something and it took him out. That was a $750 gun at the time with a 68ci AGD Flatline tank which isn't cheap either. Then the very next weekend after he had all that stuff worked on, he took another hot shot on his air lines on the 3-way. Out again. I feel bad sometimes because these guys spend more $$$ and more on guns to even out the game, when all they really have to do is be brave, bold, and risk a little. But I am glad to see them come and play. Besides, if they all did start playing suddenly like me, then I might be in alot of trouble!:eek:

[sniper14]

Originally posted by tonysk83
yea it is really fun playing there, the bad part is im afraid im going to cut my knee of a piece of metal, there is so much junk

that sucks, i have never thought about getting cut or anything out in the woods, come to think about it there is alot of glass, and i just started my crawling tecnique. o well ill take the chance.

smg60user said it best. he is compleatly right, but that really blows the big one so how much did that guy spend on his cocker, and it still F--ked up. when he could of easly just bought a Tippy, any Tippy and up graded it alot.

[smg60user]

I think he spent about 750 on the gun, and 300-400 on the air system and reg. He got it fixed both times, and let me tell you, when he is in a good spot, that gun will rip you a new one for sure. But he is still limited by his dispostion to protect his gun. He is a former boss of mine, he's 50 years old, and let me tell you he can get it when it comes to the nut-cuttin buddy. He is happy with his gun and it's performance to price ratio and i'm not inclined to argue. It's never the gun. It's the player.

[sniper14]

damn......50......he is that old and he plays paintball. is he any good?

[smg60user]

Yes he is. He is very sneaky, and patient. Two very dangerous qualities of woods games.

[AvalonGT]

Its mostly becuase there bult for woods in a way. Tippmanns have most of the upgrades for people who like to paly in woulds and hide. and there shape isnt really for speedball there long but slinder,perfect for jsut laying on the ground out of site and shooting at people. Then they made the flatline for more distance even better for staying back father so its ever harder to get seen. Speedball feilds are pretty small so there not going to make the flatline for that its for woods.

[specter542]

why are questions like these asked???? there is no definitive answer.

[paint_suey]

Originally posted by 3Fingered Jack
It's simple. The masses play woods ball. The masses buy cheaper guns. The masses buy Tippmanns. Why was this thread ever started? Of course there are better guns than Tippmanns in ANY style of play. Referring to the first post, who ever said Tippmanns are the best in the woods? However, they may be the most common.

i was just saying that the masses are gonna get a kick in their *****es if they buy a tippmann:P

there i go gun bashing again. maybe people do it cuz they wanna feel better about themselves. i dont know cuz I AM KING!

[NcicHit]

Woods ball is not dying out. Whoever hides the best and gets off the first usually comes out ahead no matter what kind of gun he uses. Just so he doesn't miss on that first shot.

The guys I play with use almost every kind of gun under the sun. But most of them use Tippmann's. They are cheaper and they don't break down. I usually use my Micromag when I'm on point. When I have to guard the base I use my Tippmann Flatline.

If you want a gun built like a tank get a VM68 Magnum. They are also as heavy as a tank with 2 CO2 bottles attached. A 7 ounce up front and a 20 ounce in back. The VM will shot good in cold weather also. They like liquid, propane or anything else you want to shot.

[NcicHit]

:cry:speed ball players in the woods :atten:
:-)LOL

[the_big_wazzoo]

hehhe, im a woodsball player who plays speedball. i own a tippy 98c with a dye excel 14" and a cp flame drop. kinda crappy i know but i wouldnt have it anyother way. i love tippy's, sure an automag would be tottaly sweet- but theyre just not tippy's. i think people buy tippy's because of the usual reasons, dont break, inexpensive, rarely have to clean em, and upgradeable as any gun out there. it really is the player who makes the gun (here we go preachin again...) ive played against e-99's and spyder flash's in speedball and bunkered both of them with my stock 98c. both of the guns are sweet to me (a relative newb), and are better suited for speedball but i still managed to squeeze out a kill. in conclusion, guns purchases are most usually based on financial freedom. i worked my butt off serving ice cream for a month to buy my tippy, if i had more money i would've probably bought an automag or an intimidator. basically, tippy's are better than high end guns in some ways, high end guns are better than tippy's in many (mostly) other ways. it sall personal preference- you decide....

[Tommy_pball]

i thought of another reason why tippmann is "the king of the woods" its one of the first guns most ppl buy and ppl play woods when they first start so theres one reason...of course some ppl are just morons and take tippmanns on hyperball fields... when i was at my local field gettin a co2 fill, there was this middle aged man with his 98c so scratched up that 1 receiver half was was like 98% silver it was so scratched from sliding in bunkers and what not

[Crime Dog]

What's wrong with taking a Tippmann on a hyperball field? *scratches his head and wonders*

[Tommy_pball]

dont get me wrong by all means go ahead but im just sayin there are better options than tippmanns for hyperball

[sniper14]

i have heard about hyperball but what is it?

[automagdude]

Ok, i have a tippmann, i play in the woods a lot, but why is a tippmann considered the best in the woods.

i have a tippmann too. there are very good in woods because they are reliable

[NcicHit]

Maybe we can put it this way:

Tippmann is like the Ruger. It's not the best but it doesn't break down and it works when you need it. I don't carry a Ruger (Sig P220) but if I had to use one it would be ok with me. Does that make sense?:confused:

The only gun tougher than the Tippmann would be the VM68. It would shoot on propane, liquid fertilizer, butane, liquid nitrogen, gas fumes or anything else you could run through it.

[bubabootie]

Yeah tippmanns are built like tanks. I dove on my A-5 right up against a rock, didnt even phase the thing. Using it stock you get good accuracy, and i havent chopped a single ball and i've fired of 3k rounds with it. The reset button for the cyclone is in the perfect spot, all you have to do is raise your trigger finger and push it.

My a-5 has been shopped the past two weeks because of an o-ring leak i couldnt reach, shipped it out on the 10th and still havnt gotten it back, i hate UPS