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Ebonclaw
06-18-2002, 04:31 PM
A lot of you guys have electros, and I myself use one. I read all the time "my trigger pull is .000000007937 mm". Well, after having my Storm set to a VERY tiny trigger pull for a long time, I got to shoot a Dark Angel. I was kinda shocked that the owner had a longer trigger pull than mine....and I was shooting faster! Here's my theory:

A trigger with a micro touch is HARDER to fire rapidly than say, a slightly longer trigger. Here's why.
Clicking your trigger at such a short distance means waaay too much force is applied. You only have to barely touch it, remember? Your trigger finger hits the stop and you have to actually focus a little more on actually pulling the trigger than your shooting. However, if you have a trigger with a little travel distance, you can move shoot faster because you don't have to tell yourself to "bring the finger back and fire again"....this is what gives an RT mag its RoF, the magnet kicks the trigger back FOR you. What's slwoing you down isn't the trigger firing, it's the return. A longer pull results in less return. Ideally, a trigger would be as short as possible...but with some back travel, after the actual triggering point. However, due to the fact that once you depress the button, it's like trying to click your mouse farther, you can't have it that way. The trick is to give your trigger a longer travel so that it triggers at the END of your trigger pull. But you still need it short and crisp enough that the pull travel doesn't take longer than the return.
Try adjusting your "hair triggers" slightly longer until you notice a difference, good or bad. If you like it, keep it. I found by giving my trigger more travel, I can pull faster and more reliably. I'm not talking manual trigger length here, just slightly longer than what you've got right now.

weefek
06-18-2002, 04:57 PM
why are all your posts always so LONG? :D :D :D

Surreal
06-18-2002, 05:29 PM
i think ebon is DYING to start a stickied thread.. just sticky this one so he stops all this crap posting :D

AK47
06-18-2002, 06:15 PM
I think this outburst of ideas is for him to get a mod job:eyes:

Richy_C
06-18-2002, 07:17 PM
I like to set my guns to what ever length is needed for trigger bounce. I fiddled with my old and sold Impulse, got the trigger down to about 1/2mm, couldn't shoot at all, but at just about 2 mm it was good. I also put some spring tension on it. When it ripped, it ripped on its own.

MINDofSIN
06-18-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by AK47
I think this outburst of ideas is for him to get a mod job:eyes:

In my opinion, he deserves it more than most people here. No, I'm not sucking up.

For me, length isn't nearly as important as a smooth trigger. I can't stand jerky, sloppy triggers. By smooth I don't really mean light. I think you guys understand that.

But, firing faster with a heavier pull leads to jerking the gun around, decreasing accuracy.

halB
06-18-2002, 07:50 PM
he already has a few threads stickied. Ebon is my hero :)

FrOnTMaN
06-19-2002, 06:04 PM
....ferris beuler your my hero....

:P

133+ Player
06-19-2002, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by AK47
I think this outburst of ideas is for him to get a mod job:eyes:

Well He Deserves it more then anyone. IMO (sides me of course:D)


Anyways i know whats hes saying, but you can usualy train yourself to the trigger pull. I don't put preety much any force into my trigger pulls, could just be me but i think thats what most people do.

Ebonclaw
06-20-2002, 11:03 AM
Actually, AK, I try to justify my existence on this forum, rather than just hanging out in OT all the time.

i like tictacs
06-20-2002, 11:33 AM
i hate really short pulls. the only thing i hate more is whe people brag "its as short as a blockbuster video card is thick" ya, you sux