LPR Build

[ogood_2000]

I would like to bulid a LPR that realy rocks but don't know what to buy except the reg. With is going to be a plamers micro stablizer,But what else goes with a LPR kit on e-paintball outlet. And I'm going to mount it on the simple two hole mount. But the reg. goes to one hole what does the other hole do or can I put a gauge there thanks guys ogood.

[The Legend]

You need a 1/8 NPT to lp hose adapter, I believe both new designs and eclipse makes them.

Yes, you would use the other hole for a gauge. That gauge will read your input pressure, not your LPR pressure though.

[ogood_2000]

Whats a lp hose adapter ? And where can I get one?

[mipaint]

What Tom is talking about applies to you if you have an older Impulse.

On Impluses with the "old style" milling, you can remove the little locating screw on the bottom of the gun (near the input port) . That hole extended up into the valve chamber. you can tap that hole with a 10-32 tap, and plug the hole with a 10-32 set screw. You then replace the bottom set screw with a shorter one. Finaly you put a 1/8"NPT adapter in the front. (where the tape worm would go). You will most likly find you will have to use a 1/8NPT to 10-32 adapter and then a 10-32 to 1/16" barb.

OR

you could just buy the LPR nipple for $17 and not have to do all the above.

The 1/8NPT adapter will be of no use to you on later guns (about 11,000 and up) as you can't plug the transfer hole (at least not easily) and you would have to buy the LPR nipple for these later guns.

Another problem you will have with the baby rock is that as it comes from the factory, it will not mount on the vertical adaper. The problem is its too fat to fit under the gun and screw in. to use it, you have to put it on a longer mounting stud (which looks realy Ulgy).

Frankly, Unless you have some major problem with ANS, I would very highly recomend you use the full size ANS reg. in our experince, it gives the best preformance of the LPR over the widest pressure range. The FULL size rock will also work fine (and gives great preformance)

We have over 250 Impulses out there now with LPRs (that we set up and tested) and I will say without a doubt the ANS setups work out the best. The only realy good reg we have never tested is the Tickler. Unfourtanly dispite haveing these on order from WGP for EVER, we have never had one come in to test. I have read a few "seat of the pants" tests where the fokes using them claim they work great- but I don't belive any of them had a different LPR set up to compare them to.

I personaly perfer the lpr mounted on the vertical adapter- so there is no need to buy one of the modified front caps. The LPR nipple will make everything so much more simple- so I would suggest you go that way.

Hope this helps

FOM

[The Legend]

Originally posted by mipaint
What Tom is talking about applies to you if you have an older Impulse.


It applies to all Imps.

You have to find a way to get air into the solenoid chamber, the only current way of doing this is by mounting an adapter in the front solenoid chamber plug. One end 1/8npt threaded, the other end with a hose barb. As seen in my first post "1/8 NPT to lp hose adapter."

[mipaint]

Tom,

I don't think you have seen the milling on the new style guns. in order to use a LPR, you have to seal the transfer hole between the Solonoid chamber and the valve chamber. This was very easy on the older guns (taping the transfer passage and putting in a set screw). BUT on the new guns, you can not do that. The "locating hole" is not there (which was realy just an extention of the transfer passage hole) The "new" locating pin hole is on the OTHER SIDE and it is a "blind hole"-- that is it does not connect to anything.

So to use a LPR (the point of this whole post) the user would have to find a way to plug that transfer passage- and the only way to access it is thru the valve chamber. NOW it COULD BE DONE, but not with simple tools one may have lying around the house. THis is why it is more logicical to simply use a lpr nipple.

Procedure with 1/8"NPT adapter--

find some way to plug the transfer hole without interfering with the ability to remove the valve

Screw in the 1/8NPT adapter and locate the part that is facing the valve cover.

Grind/mill/file the 1/8" NPT to allow the valve cover to be installed

install 10-32 to 1/16" hose nipple on 1/8" NPT adapter.

Cost about $5 each for the 1/8" NPT adapter and 10-32 to 1/16" nipple. (about $10) Time invested for adverage "home shop" air smith-- about 2 hours

Procedure with LPR nipple--

IF older milling, replace "locating screw" on bottom of gun body with shorter one (step not required on newer guns)

Screw in lpr nipple

cost about $17 -- time invested about 10 min

By the way, if you know a source of 1/8NPT to 1/16 nipple (all in one step) adapters, please share it with us- I can find LOTS of 1/8 NPT to 1/8" tubing adapters (Parker, clipard ect) but these are 1/8" ID (inside dia) which is what I normaly referr to as "1/4" tubing (1/8 ID has 1/4 OD)

FOM

[StealthElephant]

tsk tsk...your falling behind leg

[The Legend]

I am. I messed with a few new bodied Imps, but hated the cricket so much I just gave them back to their owners. Damn new bodies.... I still don't see a point to that setup.