just curious???

[Mainmanballer]

if you were in a rec game or any game for that matter and there was a homosexual guy playing would you try to get him more then other? or do you not care?

[Crisis]

couldn't care who what is.. I show no mercy except to newbies.. I don't shark on them full force like i would anyone else


Weither it be Male, Female, ( mixture of both !?!? ) Young or old, NO MERCY.. less their on my team of course. lol

remember paintball is a recreation of WAR..

No one wins by dying for their country.
You win by making someone else die for theirs.

[Andrew]

I would never, ever treat a homosexual person differently than anyone else, just like I would not treat someone of a different race differently.

[MuckRaker]

How would you tell ... if they're homosexual, that is?

[Andrew]

Well I meant if you knew that they were...

[ElectricHead]

You cant tell if someone is ***... heck there are plenty of strait folk that act fruity

[MuckRaker]

Originally posted by ElectricHead
You cant tell if someone is ***... heck there are plenty of strait folk that act fruity

:eek: Don't you Know it BABY!!! Yeah Baby!! :eek:

[elTwitcho]

Originally posted by Crisis

remember paintball is a recreation of WAR..


No man, long range tag, that's how I see it. Besides, calling it WAR is a good way to make us look really bad

[Crisis]

for the style of weapon were using, not really.. essently a really really LOW powered Musket...

lol

Tag is the best way to describe it.. all be it one of the MOST expensive version of tag you can find.

[PBSouLjAh]

yes and yes mucho it is very expensive. da heck...im 13..in 8th grade..you know how hard it is for me to earn enough money to buy paint and stuff for my gun?!?

[ptflyer]

the question should have been ..." and he was on your team..would he die from friendly fire"....only kidding...I don't care who you are..if you are in front of me I am going to shoot you...

[Richy_C]

PAintball is in no way war, say that again and i think you should be banned, and hey, i'm in8thgrade to, it's tough man! Stick with it!

[PB ninja]

Sexual orientation has absolutely no bearing on paintball. It's like asking "would you gang up on a guy if he wears green socks." Once the mask is on they're just another person with a gun.

[Mainmanballer]

I love you guys, youre all very funny. by the way in my opinion, paintball is war, think about it, guns, snipers, bases, senario games it all the basic stuff in war there is no doubt in my mind that paintball is like war, im not saying that it should advertised that way but lets face it people, shooting other people in a scenario game of normandy or ghettysburg is WAR get it straight

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by Mainmanballer
I love you guys, youre all very funny. by the way in my opinion, paintball is war, think about it, guns, snipers, bases, senario games it all the basic stuff in war there is no doubt in my mind that paintball is like war, im not saying that it should advertised that way but lets face it people, shooting other people in a scenario game of normandy or ghettysburg is WAR get it straight

Please note that the following is not a flame.

No paintball is not war. If you play milism or certain senarios it may be SIMULATED war but it is still not just like war.
Normal paintball (when I say this I refer to rec ball and tourniment paintball woods and speedball) is nothing like war.Snipers? By definition there are no snipers in paintball. The term sniper refers to someone who shoots from a far away position and is very well camo'd. That is not saying there are not people who can sneek and hide well. But the range is just not possible and sneeking around hidding the whole game is not practical for a 15-30 minute woodsball game.

Now if you take speedball, it is nothing even close to war. 5 minute games, bright colors, different tactics, and a very specific set of rules.

[Mainmanballer]

well not all paintball is war i agree like speedball and stuff, but even though it is simulated war it is still based on war and the principles of war, and there are snipers, you descibed a sniper perfectly that what a sniper is but thats another topic as i was saying, its not war because people dont die and countries dont lose people but it is still a simulation, thats like saying that making a house outta legos isnt making a house same thing

[elTwitcho]

You dont bunker anyone in a war. You throw hand grenades in a war. Rather than snap shoot you stay in a more stationary position when firing. Engagements are usually at longer ranges. Infantry require alot of combined arms for their kills. The "Wild west" Style shootouts that people think represents war, where the infantry duke it out house to house is over. Infantry fight through use of combined arms, rather than bunkering people. An infantry war is far more static than paintball. Engagements last far longer as a result of the greater ranges involved. I can go on and on. By calling paintball WAR, you're being as short minded as the people who dont play paintball and call it war. The only similarity is that you try and hit another person with a projectile fired at a high velocity. Paintball isnt war, and if you want to look ignorant, and try and get us to look like the millitant sociopaths we've worked so very hard not to look like, go ahead and tell everyone paintball is war. Let em know how warlike it is, and then you can be dumbfounded when parents wont let their kids play, and paintball gets a bad name.

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by elTwitcho
You dont bunker anyone in a war. You throw hand grenades in a war. Rather than snap shoot you stay in a more stationary position when firing. Engagements are usually at longer ranges. Infantry require alot of combined arms for their kills. The "Wild west" Style shootouts that people think represents war, where the infantry duke it out house to house is over. Infantry fight through use of combined arms, rather than bunkering people. An infantry war is far more static than paintball. Engagements last far longer as a result of the greater ranges involved. I can go on and on. By calling paintball WAR, you're being as short minded as the people who dont play paintball and call it war. The only similarity is that you try and hit another person with a projectile fired at a high velocity. Paintball isnt war, and if you want to look ignorant, and try and get us to look like the millitant sociopaths we've worked so very hard not to look like, go ahead and tell everyone paintball is war. Let em know how warlike it is, and then you can be dumbfounded when parents wont let their kids play, and paintball gets a bad name.

Nicely put!

That is exactly how I feel about it.

[Crisis]

Very good view. I shall take back what i said in a bad manner.

Very good point fella's.

[Paintball Monkey]

I'm a little late here, but I agree with the majority here on the war thing... As for the homosexuality part, who cares. I think we are coming to a point where we need to accept and not discriminate against people of different beliefs. Just like our parents and grandparents had to overcome racism, we need to put our childish, immature views behind us and not judge people in a negative way just because they live differently than us. Like mentioned earlier, if someone knows how to play the game (straight, ***, old, young, crippled, whatever) then I welcome them to my team and I will work with them the way I would anyone else.

[PsycHo AbE]

Also late on this....

I think the first question asked is not a good one. Discrimination isnt good for anything. If he were on the other team I would try to eliminate him just as hard as I would try to eliminate anyone else on the team. Sexual preference has nothing to do with it and never should(unless its a guy who's always bragging about how good they are then you can put that person in his place!).

[PB ninja]

I think another difference between war and paintball is the fact that in paintball participants are eager and willing to play, even shelling out money for paint (ammo) and field fees. I challenge anyone to find a real soldier who will pay for his own bullets:D. In war people are pitted against each other to serve the (persieved) need of a higher power not out of love for combat. Paintball is thankfully lacking this quality.

[Sid]

Paintball is certainly not war! In war people die, war is horrible. Paintball is fun. Just because people shoot at each other does not mean paintball is war.

In paintball no one gets hurt. Paintballers don't bomb enemy factories, or enemy suppliers. There are no paintball nukes or paintball POW camps. Paintball is not war. War involves politics, power, and greed. Paintball is going out on the weekend and laughing with friends. War turns people into animals, and causes them to do things they would normally not do. Paintball brings people together and enhances friendships.

PAINTBALL IS A GAME!

[Counterfeit]

Originally posted by theflash
PAINTBALL IS A GAME!

Better yet, Paintball is a SPORT!!

[Richy_C]

Ah, some great **** for all the damn anti paintball people to read here!

[Mainmanballer]

you all need to calm down, im not trying to single paintball out so dont get the wrong idea, i was just stating that paintball, is similar to war in many ways you cant just say its not like war just because people dont die or people dont bomb or anything, its just that it is similar to to war in some ways, you all dont need to jump down my throat and call me ignorant you dumdass eltwicho just because i have an opinion, sorry if i think paintball is similar to war and in war you do trap your enemies and you do use some of the same stratagies as in war no people dont die or even get seriously hurt, but that still doesnt give you the right to call me ignorant you r looking at this single minded not me, i can understand where you guys are coming from but maybe you should take a look at my side and try to realize some facts umk?

[X]

I think its the difference between war and wargames. Nobody likes war, people die, and everybody is scared to death. Its important to have people who know what they're doing to defend you and your country, and this is where people can have problems with ***s and their effeminate attitude. But paintball is a warGAME, something people do to have fun, not defend their lives.

[elTwitcho]

Maybe you should realize all the bad things that get said about our sport, and how stupid we look when we call it war. Do you think it's an accident that magazines use words like "marker" and "elimination" instead of kill. Do you think it's an accident that we dont use red fill paintballs (usually at least). I've always known people wanted to make paintball look bad, I just didnt think they were inside the paintball community as well. Read a bit on the history of paintball. We used to be considered a war game. It used to be acceptable to use WAR in your product titles "Worr game products" and such. But that time is gone, and the paintball community has been actively moving away from that image. Why you would like to drag us back into the dark ages of paintball, when people frowned on us, and thought we were violent animals, when we're just starting to be seen in a positive light. War is many many things, but all people will agree on one thing. War is violent. Do you want people to associate our great sport with violence? That's what you're doing man

[Mainmanballer]

i agree with you....partially, paintball doesnt have such a badf rep as you say it did or does, and im not going around telling people that paintball is war. besides even if i did they are still gonna have their own opinion of the sport, just because we say it isnt war doesnt mean they are gonna look at it differently, everyone looks at paintball differently and my saying that is a wargame isnt gonna change peoples mind, and by the way, who cares if people think its a war game just for the sake of arguement, we should still stand for what we belive in and we all love paintball in this forum and nothing that anyone has to say is gonna change the way i feel about it anyways....i mean some people think that owning a gun is a bad thing, it may be in their minds but in mine and other people its not. saying that it is war is something that i didnt say i said it is similar to war in some ways, whether you agree or disagree it doesnt mean that im making the sport look bad.

[Dman]

The main thing that gives Paintball a bad name isn't the war thing anymore. At least I don't see it. The main thing that I see threatening the sport is irresponsible "outlaw" ballers. People who don't chrono guns, and play games that go to the "pain". Most of the injuries in the sport are caused when people do these things. People shoot on public land, or land without permision. I don't mind outlaw ball. I play it myself sometimes, but we bought our own chrono and we designate refs when we play and play on our own property. This keeps things safe. Even amoung friends people can get caught up in the moment.
The other thing that I see as very damaging to paintball is people who don't think. They shoot up cars mailboxes and other acts of vandalism. I personally think that those are worse for paintball than any image of war that may be associated with it. If you come out of your house and your garage has marks all over it or your son loses an eye because he went for a walk in the wrong park at the wrong time, you tend to get a bad taste in your mouth about the sport a lot more than if you get a war feel out of the sport.
Goto most outdoor woods games and you cannot deny the war feel. People in camo, guile suits, snipers, and such.

[Crisis]

Originally posted by Dman
The other thing that I see as very damaging to paintball is people who don't think. They shoot up cars mailboxes and other acts of vandalism. I personally think that those are worse for paintball than any image of war that may be associated with it. If you come out of your house and your garage has marks all over it or your son loses an eye because he went for a walk in the wrong park at the wrong time, you tend to get a bad taste in your mouth about the sport a lot more than if you get a war feel out of the sport.
Goto most outdoor woods games and you cannot deny the war feel. People in camo, guile suits, snipers, and such.

Couldn't have said it better. It is the small few who defile the sport, game, which ever you prefer it being called, and giving us ALL a bad name and corupting the fun we take place in. Things like what FOX's King of the Hill sitcom did, does not help either, even though it was obviously a good pun, even i laughed, cause we know better.

[PB ninja]

How about those punks that video taped their vandalism spree some years ago. The one were they where driving around shooting up people. That's is what uptight people get scared of, not idiots playing outlaw ball recklessly. Both are obviously dangerous but when innocent bystanders (sp?) get involved people get scared. People are much more concerned if Joe Buisnessman get's shot then if its just some kid playing outlaw ball who broke his fingers because the velocity was up to high.

[Dman]

I'd agree with that. Vandalism is the worst threat to our sport. I have seen the vandalism personally.(not participated, just saw the aftermath) It hurts us all. I get so mad when people just don't think of the consequences. The sport is too young for people to separate the idiots from the sportsman. These people don't care at all. A lot of it has to do with the growth of the sport. Any yahoo can go to their local Wal Mart and buy a brass eagle a couple of cartriges and some paintballs. In a way things were a little better when you had to goto the pro shop and make a serious investment before you could do something stupid like that.

The main concern that I have heard from parents is safty. I volunteer/work at the local youth center. When I have planned paintball trips the main concern from parents was safty. They wanted to know that their child wouldn't get hurt, and they had heard from somewhere how dangerous the sport is. This is usually cured by explaining the safty equipment, and letting them come to the field to watch a game. I've even had a couple of parents take up the sport after watching the kids play a game or two.
I didn't mean to give the impression that I have anything against outlaw ball. I have just seen a lot of really stupid behavior result in injuries that didn't need to happen. It's a terrible thing when a fourteen year old kid loses an eye because of poor judgement.

[Richy_C]

ehh, i dunno if u'd call this vandalism, but i have shot my house a couple times.. but hey, i was aiming for those pesky icesicles (sp?)

[PB ninja]

I don't think it counts as vandalism if it's your own property, but that is an unorthodox use for a paintball gun to say the least.

[Crisis]

Your own house wouldn't be included as vandalism, unless it's yer parents house (ie : living with parents, and playing in backyard) I have me, my room mate, and his wife, and a few friends all play in our back yard... it's kinda kewl... little bit of a hose job, and some sweeping, and a weekends worth of fun..