Acuracy?

[Mattpb]

i would like to know if smart part imuplse paintball markers are acurate! please post a message. thanks.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

this isn't really regarding yer question. but what part of washington do you live in? i live in Spanaway (near tacoma)

[Mattpb]

issaquah

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

oh, i'v heard of that place alot, but im not quite sure where its at. Have you ever played at AHP's field (aces high paintball's) its in graham off of 288th.

and how old are you?

[Mattpb]

never played ther but issaquah is just off i5 30 minutes east of seattle!

[Mattpb]

im 15

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

oh koo, im 15 too. I should be getting my impulse in 2 days. So i'll tell you how the accuracy compares to my old cocker and shocker

[Skog]

i'd say that an impulse is about as accurate as stock markers come, the stock barrel is excellent, especially with diablo paint and if you get a good barrel system that allows you to change bore sizes such as the freak, equation and aradus (i recommend the freak)

with my completely stock imp i shot around 100 balls within a 1/2 foot diameter at 60 yards on my first attempt, and that was in my hands, not a vice, so i would say it was pretty accurate.

hope this helps, if you have any more imp questions fee free to PM me with them, especially if they are basic imp questions as some members of this forum have a tendancy to flame newbs for not knowing much.

[NitroBill]

It's all in the barrel paint match up. If the paint is quality, and the barrel's bore lines up, it will shoot striaght. get a All American or freak, and you will shoot darts.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

yeah i used my impulse today for the first tyme and dude does that thing rip with a blade trigger... lol but yeah i was using a 10" dye ultralyte barrel, it was shooting pretty good. I cant wait to see a freak on that thing!!!! OoOOoo thas' gonna be nyceeeeeeee :-D

[SYaNide SmurF]

It's all in the barrel paint match up. If the paint is quality, and the barrel's bore lines up, it will shoot striaght. get a All American or freak, and you will shoot darts.

you contridcited you self, you 1st said it all paint/barrel and then later you said just get a all american.


anyways to answer your question the imp will generally be more accurate than some guns do to the lack of kick

[checkyourhopper]

For starters, accuracy mainly is determined by a good paint-to-barrel match. That means the bore size of the paint you are shooting should be a good fit with the bore size of the barrel you are using. That's why the Freak barrel system is recommended.

I've noticed that my Impulse gets great grouping with my shots, not to mention being able to just totally rip.

The only drawback for me (and remember this is my opinion and others are sure to debate/disagree with this next point) is that Impys have a problem with long-distance shots. When I'm shooting at long distances, my Impy's trajectory curves downward and definitely is not as flat as an Autococker's trajectory. You compensate for this by having to angle your shots high. I would not recommend an Impy if you play in the back. But if you play in the mid or front, then Impys are sweet markers for you.

[Awhislyle]

I think he meant that some barrels are better than some even with paint to barrel match and he meant that all american was one of em

[viperisi5]

I love my impulses accuracy. I do have to arc my long shoots however I am running at about 100 psi and 250 fps!!!! Up close with good paint and stock marker (I have the tapeworm thats it) It will shoot darts at my settings of 100 psi, 250 fps.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

man, how much will the tapeworm bring down an imp's Operating pressure?

[viperisi5]

dude, this suprised the Sh!# out of me!!!! I went to go crono and I now shoot at 110 psi and 250 fps. normally impulses run at what 150 to 180 psi? yup it drastically reduced my operating pressure! and tapeworms also make your gun cycle faster, eliminate bolt stick, and make it so you can dry fire it.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

hmm....... i can dry fire my gun without a tapeworm, and i dont get bolt stick, but i do get FSDO. adn i run my impulse at 180 ryte now but i gotta set the dwell...

[viperisi5]

YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO DRY FIRE IT WITHOUT A SOLINOID OPTIMIZER (tapeworm) get one its worth it.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

alryte i'll keep that inmind. I'll be gettin my tapeworm in lyk a week or 2

[viperisi5]

atta boy

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

lol haha yeah

[viperisi5]

dude were talking on aim and on this forum at the same time? lets only use aim.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

haha alryte, see you on AIM, but yeah any more input from other pbreview.com members will be greatly appreciated

[viperisi5]

NOOOO I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS!!!!
I KNOW ALLLL!!!!!!!!!




j/k

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

lol hahahahhaa yeah ok.... yer the ONLY one that matter's... Ryteee

[Skog]

Originally posted by DRAGONSTYLE369
man, how much will the tapeworm bring down an imp's Operating pressure?

from someone who knows, a tapeworm won't bring down your operating pressure, for a start all imps should be set to run at 180psi unless you have a vff or an lpr, if they aren't then your dwell is set wrong and you will be getting bad efficiency.

You should set your pressure to 180psi, and then adjust your dwell until you chrono 270 fps (or whatever your local field allows)

yes a solenoid optimiser will eliminate bolt stick, increase cycle rate and improve efficiency, but if you are running at 100psi and 250 fps your dwell must be set very long, meaning that your cycle rate is slowed, and your efficiency must be cr*p at that pressure

...and btw you can dry fire an imp without a solenoid optimiser, you just have to make sure back pressure is applied to the bolt (i.e. use a barrel condom/industrial silencer or take of the barrel and cover the hole with a rag)

hope this helps to clear things up.

[viperisi5]

yeah I meant that you cant dry fire it without backpressure. However, I see the same gas efficiency (maybe better) since I got the tapeworm, and I shoot at about 110 psi 250 fps. And dude, that wasnt cool, from someone who knows, yup.

[viperisi5]

in my opinion though, a tapeworm is still worth it, no matter if it doesnt lower op. pressure.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

alryte..... im gonna get it, lol. cuz i want the better efficiency

[Skog]

first, you shouldn't be running your imp at 110psi, you should up the pressure to 180, and then adjust your dwell until you chrono at whatever your field limit is, you can run any imp at a very large range of pressures and get a good fps if you adjust your dwell , but you will get a loss of efficiency. In fact, if you look at wolverines FAQ he says that when he installed the tapeworm "our efficiency dropped"

second, a tapeworm does not lower your operating pressure. if you don't believe me then check out the tapeworm review (http://www.kamworld.net/paintball/reviews/tapeworm.html) at wolverines FAQ

third, why do you want such low pressure? if you want low pressure so that your imp doesn't chop balls then get vision, you will never chop another ball again. low pressure=bad efficiency, ask any of the mods and they will tell you the same

fourth, if you really want to get a solenoid optimizer go for an LPR, these give you all the benefits of a tapeworm (better efficiency, no bolt stick, higher cycle rate) but also allows you to lower the pressure going to the solenoid/bolt separately, so that you can increase the pressure going through your max flo to get better efficiency whilst having low pressure on the bolt.

fifth, when i say "take it from someone who knows" i am not being harsh. i work in a paintball shop which sells more imps than any other marker, i do actually know.

[viperisi5]

ohhhh ok I get it, I am supposed to run my pulse at 180 huh?

Thats why the manual said 150-180 right? Why are you so steadfast on 180, why not 150?

and to my knowledge choping doesnt really invole pressure. breaking a ball upon impact of air source does.

[Skog]

the manual says 180 psi, but imps are not very efficient so by having your imp at 170-180psi you will get the best efficiency as the lower the pressure the worse the efficiancy.

chopping occurs when the bolt chops a paintball into two parts, hence the name "chop".

what it is is this, when the bolt cycles forward it closes the feed neck to stop a second ball from falling in, and also pushes the ball into the chamber, then the gas is released through the bolt and the ball is fired.

chops occur when a paintball hasn't fully fallen into the chamber when the bolt moves forward, as the bolt closes the feed neck the paintball is still partially there, and so in closing the neck it chops the ball in half, leaving a mess.

The reason that people say low pressure is so good is that if your bolt pressure is low enough, then instead of it chopping the ball when it hits it, it bounces back and recocks, this means that you won't chop anywhere near as often as you would normally, but wiht an imp you can upgrade to vision, and you won't have to worry about chopping at all, as it sees whether a ball is in the chamber properly or not before allowing the bolt to go forward.

the impact of air on the ball, can also make a mess, but this is very rare as paintballs are designed to be able to take the pressure of a high pressure marker (the imp is very low pressure compared to some), but this is not 'chopping', this is a 'barrel break' as this can happen anywhere from the breech to the end of the barrel. I you get a load of paint come out of your barrel and aren't sure what it is, then check the face of your bolt, if it has paint on it then it was a chop, if not then it was a barrel break.

[viperisi5]

yes, yes I know all this. However the lower pressure is what I want, And personally I have seen no loss in efficiently. I will go reset my dwell this weekend, but like I said I have seen no loss in efficiency.

[monkeybacon00]

I dont see how it is possible that your getting good efficiency with 110 psi, your dwell must be all the way up. And do you play indoor or something? cuz 250 fps is pretty low, at my field anyways.

your saying that your just gonna set your dwell this weekend? First turn up the maxflo to 180 and then adjust dwell until you shoot whatever fps you want. if you say that you get good efficiency at 110, crank that baby up to 180 and turn down your dwell, now thats what you call efficiency son. :D

180 is fine, smart parts is just telling you that should be the max for safety reasons, they are trying to be VERY safe. They are not going to say that the max pressure is the pressure just 10 psi from breaking your gun, they are going to set the recommended maximum way out of range of going too high. its not going to hurt your solenoid at all by going up to that pressure, thats where you should be. If you turned up your pressure too high anyways (which is a lot higher than 180), your PRV (pressure relief valve) would vent and you wouldnt harm your solenoid. And no it wont turn your imp into a chopping machine.

and no, the tapeworm does not and isnt supposed to lower your OP.

skog is so steadfast on 180 because you are going to get more shots per tank with that, with 150 you wont get as many (duh), there really isnt an advantage of going 150 unless you just like using up more gas and money.

listen to skog, he knows what hes talking about.

[viperisi5]

I never said I was getting good efficincy, just the same efficiency that I have always had. I play at 250 fps because I personally dont see a performance level change running at max allowable fps. which at my field is 280 fps. Like I said this weekend I will re-set my dwell, and see if there is much of a change.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

awwww....... i c i c.

lol keep talkin guy's cuz im learnin more n more... :D

[i like tictacs]

just turn it to 190-200 and shut up.. the 110 pressure isnt very smart.

[viperisi5]

first of all, tactics GO AWAY, second of all I have stated I am going to reset my dwell twice now, third of all I dont see a loss of efficiency.

[viperisi5]

also 190 to 200 is not a good op pressure.

[Awhislyle]

unless you have a lpr then you can run it higher and get hella good effeciency

[viperisi5]

ok, we buy a low pressure gun to run it at a higher pressure for better effincy, how does that make sense? We bought it for low pressure in the first place guys.

[DRAGONSTYLE369]

dude it makes perfet sense to me.... :D lol no. But my setup works for me....

[Skog]

Originally posted by viperisi5
ok, we buy a low pressure gun to run it at a higher pressure for better effincy, how does that make sense? We bought it for low pressure in the first place guys.

hey, the imp does run at a low pressure, 180psi is very low compared to the pressure that spyders/angels run at.

originally posted by monkeybacon00
listen to skog, he knows what hes talking about.

finally, i get the recognition i deserve :) :D :P :cool: :agree: (joke)