What's the purpose of having 'anti-siphon' on a tank?

[MajorBodycount]

Self explanatory question, thanks.

[MajorBodycount]

Additional question to the above...do I need an anti-siphon tank if I get the ACI deluxe pro remote kit (remote line and quick disconnect) and a PMI reg? Thanks.

[fleaf]

an anti-siphon tube is supposed to keep out the liquid CO2 when installed correctly. You don't need an anti-siphon tube if your running remote since the CO2 has enough time to expand and go through your regulator.

[MajorBodycount]

I'm not sure why everyone doesn't go remote, if only to save a few $'s. It sounds like the remote line makes the anti-siphon tank (costs like $30 extra) AND an expansion chamber ($40+) unnecessary (in addition to the apparent playing advantages with going remote). Obviously you would have to get a reg but I was going to do that anyway. It makes me wonder if there isn't something bad about the remote setup that makes ppl not want to do it.

[fleaf]

I think the reason why people don't like going remote is because you have to lug around a harness with a cord attached. This makes you a larger target in addition to limiting your field of play. Like the remote can get caught in branches and trees (if playing woodsball). And some people play ambidextriously and it would be too hard the gun between the two hands. Personally, I like playing with a tank on gun, it gives me something to shoulder and it feels more compact and confortable rather than having your setup around your whole body.

[MajorBodycount]

Thanks fleaf, so if I don't go remote and have an X chamber and reg, do I also need an anti-siphon CO2 tank? Thanks.

[fleaf]

no you don't really need an anti-siphon tube if your running an expansion chamber than regulator. An Anti-siphon is similar to an expansion chamber. You could run regular CO2 (w/o anti-siphon) with only the PMI regulator and it should work fine although your consistency would be better with an expansion chamber or anti-siphon. IMO I would go anti-siphon because there wouldn't be as much exposed area if you ahd an expansion chamber.

[Silent Knight]

Originally posted by fleaf
You could run regular CO2 (w/o anti-siphon) with only the PMI regulator and it should work fine

actually you have to take into account, not all regs are designed to run on Co2, some seals cannot handle Co2. If you have a reg, try to shoot at rapid fire for long periods of time and tell me if you have no shoot down.

If your going to use a reg. you should use one that was designed for Co2. The Palmer Stabalizer is one of those, of if you can find a WGP reg from a autococker, that works fine on Co2 also.

[MajorBodycount]

Ok, so I'm confused regarding which reg/x-chamber/anti-siphon tank config is the best. The options are:

1. reg only
2. x-chamber only
3. anti-siphon only
4. reg + anti-siphon
5. reg + x-chamber
6. x-chamber + anti-siphon

This would be going on a Spyder 2000 Compact or Xtra and would be on a direct-connect system (not remote). Thanks.

[fleaf]

Originally posted by Silent Knight
Originally posted by fleaf
You could run regular CO2 (w/o anti-siphon) with only the PMI regulator and it should work fine

actually you have to take into account, not all regs are designed to run on Co2, some seals cannot handle Co2. If you have a reg, try to shoot at rapid fire for long periods of time and tell me if you have no shoot down.

If your going to use a reg. you should use one that was designed for Co2. The Palmer Stabalizer is one of those, of if you can find a WGP reg from a autococker, that works fine on Co2 also.

If I'm not mistaken, the PMI pure energy reg. is able to ahndle CO2 AND N2 fine. As long as you have anti-siphon tube installed correctly, you won't have to worry about any of this except for some regs like the vigilante which were made for n2 so CO2 would not be a good option with that kind of reg. =)

To answer your question, whatever you do, don't go anti-siphon and expansion chamber together. It's a waste of money since the two items do the same exact thing, keep liquid out of your gun. IMO, the best setup would be anti-siphon with a nice reg. like the palmer's stabilizer, supposedly, it's the best with CO2.

[Edited by fleaf on 05-28-2001 at 01:09 AM]