View Full Version : why do brass eagel make plastic guns?
+aPe RuNnEr
07-11-2002, 03:30 PM
just wanted to know because if the stingray 2 was made out of some kinda metal it would be good as most other low end markers.
They waste their time because believe it or not some people actually buy their products. And they're made of plastic so that they can sell them cheap.
We haver all known this for sometime but some people continue to waste their time posting about this.
The fact is that no one cares and this thread will probably be closed.
teamblackout
07-11-2002, 04:49 PM
The fact is that no one cares and this thread will probably be closed
thats sig worthy
Originally posted by +aPe RuNnEr
just wanted to know because if the stingray 2 was made out of some kinda metal it would be good as most other low end markers.
Way to edit your post there, and no it wouldn't be as good, ever heard of the avenger?
Crash
07-11-2002, 07:04 PM
Plastic is cheaper.
If they can manufacture it cheaper, they can sell it cheaper.
They want to try for the lowest possible price since the bulk of thier product line is aimed toward very new players.
team hessians
07-11-2002, 08:36 PM
yes just like crash said, they do it because it is a bunch cheaper , brass eagle is only there to get newbs into the sport, thats brass eagles job.
Silent Knight
07-11-2002, 09:53 PM
+aPe RuNnEr,
what kind of question is this. Really if you want the answer email brass eagle.
Villhime98c
07-14-2002, 09:25 AM
if the stingray had a metal body and a better trigger pull it would be nice. It's bolt configuration is inline like a tippmann, BE should make a special edition stingray with a metal body.
G-Man HRT
07-14-2002, 09:43 AM
they used composite material because it's durable, flexible, easier to mold, cheaper to manufacture, and most importantly it's lighter.
people that complain that plastic is cheap and easy to break just don't see the advantages of using composite. My Glocks *23, 27, and 33* are all composite frames for a reason, and are some of the most popular real handguns on todays market.
most commonly poeple shy away cause they don't like the feel of plastic and have more confidence in a metal frame. metal is great, but composites have alot of promise.
Raptomatic
07-14-2002, 10:01 AM
Nothin' beats the feel of metal. Plastics work, yes, but the fact that they're light and flexible does not endorse any confidence in its durability (however questionable that is).
Crash
07-14-2002, 11:47 AM
G-Man said that one perfectly.
Ebonclaw
07-14-2002, 12:02 PM
Well...how many newbies use a BE gun (besides the Tigershark...I understand they're pretty good as far as pumps go), get frustrated and quit paintball altogether because the gun breaks, doesn't shoot right, the mask fogs, and so on and so forth and give up paintball? I think Tippmann does a better job of bringing newbs in.
G-Man HRT
07-14-2002, 01:41 PM
i can understand unreliability that some complain about with brass eagle, but that point is of no importance in this post really. the internals of the gun are what usually break or fail, not the frame itself. this is also pointed more towards the composite used in the original stingrays *not ice models* and tygersharks. the new plastic used in the blade and samuri series is of a different type and from what i've seen is much easier to break.
my first marker was an orginal stingray 1 i bought as a used rental gun back in the early 1990's. i've hacked it, carved it, glued stuff to it, and never once had a problem with the frame. internals have come and gone, but that frame just takes hit after hit.
i can't say that i'd recommend the actual plastic that is now being used in thier cheaper guns, but as for the older composite, it was very tough, easy to work with, and light.
Crash
07-16-2002, 01:38 PM
As stated, the actual composite body/frame/etc. are not usually related to the marker "breaking". Rather, the internals are in some way the cause. Those problems, on the same note, are almost always caused by the lack of care toward the marker. You can't be upset at something going wrong when you don't oil a marker for five months, never clean it, and throw it in the back of the closet after a day of play.
When someone quits paintball due to their Stingray/Tigershark/Talon that they purchased from Wal-Mart breaks, it's not really an evil on the part of Brass Eagle. The only exposure these players have to paintball is through Brass Ealge. Brass Eagle brought them to the game; they just didn't stay. No loss, no gain. Many would have never known about paintball if Brass Ealge didn't market through Wal-Mart.
Many of the players that have trouble with Brass Ealge markers don't quit, either. Instead, they move up to something from, say, Kingman. This is where most of the "BE sucks" mentality comes from.
Commando52
07-17-2002, 08:53 PM
they make plastic stuff because the owner is too cheap to spend the money on some decent metal so he uses plastic that is why the whole company of brASS eagle is so cheap.....Products are cheap because the owner is cheap.!
Crash
07-18-2002, 06:12 AM
Your insight is amazing!
Think about it for a minute. If there weren't made from composites, they would cost quite a bit more. Then, their markers wouldn't have the appeal that they do to newer players. This means that less of these potential players would buy one from their local Wal-Mart, and thus possibly never be exposed to paintball. That doesn't exactly help the sport grow.
Composite "plates" are used by SWAT teams to protect various areas that are not exposed to much movement (chest, for one). Though I'm not expert in the field, I believe that the capabilities of these relatively thin plates to stop a rifle round is equal to that of 55 sheets of Kevlar. Even though they differ quite a bit from the composites used in Brass Eagle markers, it's still relevant.
Jeffo2448
07-18-2002, 02:36 PM
HAHAHA, Commando is so funny! He said brASS. Shut the hell up Commando. I'm sick of you because you think you're better than everyone and all you do is bash other posts.
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