impulses for a team

[werty7373]

im forming a 3 man team with 1 alternatite.im looking at the sp impulses wit the vert max flos. im probably gonna buy each member the same marker for obvious reasons. so how is that impulse for every position good choice? if not wat marker?

[ScorpionShutt]

that is dumb... each guy should get the marker they want...
impulses are fine... any high end gun is fine for a team, low end guns are fine 2 (c'mon flame me for this one) i think you should get what you want (even if it's an imp) and let them get what they want (even if they all want imps)

would this imp be your first gun? has any of your team played before? have you? does any of your team have guns?

[Skog]

i find that my imp is excellent whatever position you play in (i play in all positions, depends on who we play), just try to get a good barrel (freak) if you are going to use it as a back player, that and a delrin bolt to reduce kick.

the imp is very accurate and good to use as a back player and is also excellent to use as a front player due to how narrow and short it is, it can be a little tall for some people, but if this is the case then get a low rise (but be careful not to chop paint)

the ONE thing you will have to have though are good hoppers, you must use at least 12v revvy's w/x-board as it is too easy to outshoot your hopper with an imp.

[werty7373]

yes we all have a year expirence i have a nice spyder and they have m 98s. impulses are a good price 399$. i am thinking about that option giving them a choice but the plan i am gonna propose is each member contributes 30 or 40$ a week into the fund. if its 40$ a week 4 members in about 4.5 months we will have enough money for impulses, n2 tanks, ric aks or 12v revy x board, masks and other stuff.of course we wouldnt buy the equipment at the earlist oppurtunity and spend our whole time saving we would be also usoing that money to practice in powerlines near my house and once a month go to my local field and practice/scrimmage. by giving each member the same gun every1's money gets divided evenly. a gun breaks any 1 on the team can repair it. if some 1 wants a pricery gun they can pay the difference of that gun compared to the impulse. if they want a least expensive marker they can get it but they dont get the difference. impulses are pretty nice i dont think they will complain too much

[The Legend]

I highly suggest to let them shoot guns of their choice. I've been on two teams now that tried to do a team gun deal, and its more hassle than its worth. Unless you're getting sponsored to shoot a specific gun, shoot what you want.

[werty7373]

yeah ill let them shhot wat they want but the impulse price will be the boundary for paying extra (the difference) or not if they want to shoot their tippymans

[XSycloneX]

i would suggest ditching the money pot idea and just letting each person spend their own money on their own gun and equipment. It is a whole lot more simple to do this. That way, they get their preference, and can do whatever upgrades they want. No 1 person would be holding the rest back if some1 didnt have enough money.

But if you decide on the team gun thing, the Impulse is a very good gun that can be used in any position. I predy much play every position.

[LeF_11]

Actually , alot will agree with me (hopefully) that a shocker would make a better "back man's gun" . Shocker's are supposivly more accurate at long distance "lobbing" .... but I dont think you will notice it too much unless you pull out a ruler.. There really is NOTHING wrong with the stock progressive barrels that impulse's come with.. but You have to shoot marbs if you want them to shoot like a dream... Diablo doesn't work to well.. anyhow .. I could just ramble on like this forever.. so I'm gonna stop right.... Now.

[XSycloneX]

Diablo (or should i say Draxus) paint blows. Try Severe. Its really new, and its the best paint I have Ever shot! Severe's premium paint is almost as good as Inferno.

[werty7373]

it would be a lot less complicated but then how were would money come in for practice paint and fees. split the cost? with my pay days the fund will keep on growing steadily and will have more then enough for tourneys more money= more tourneys. when it comes to equip they buy but paint and fees we might split

[cris8762]

severe is a great paint, in NC most of the major tournies (ACTS, CMS) use severe, and it runs great im my imp!

[Skog]

Originally posted by LeF_11
Actually , alot will agree with me (hopefully) that a shocker would make a better "back man's gun" . Shocker's are supposivly more accurate at long distance "lobbing" .... but I dont think you will notice it too much unless you pull out a ruler.. There really is NOTHING wrong with the stock progressive barrels that impulse's come with.. but You have to shoot marbs if you want them to shoot like a dream... Diablo doesn't work to well.. anyhow .. I could just ramble on like this forever.. so I'm gonna stop right.... Now.

yes, the shocker is more of a back man's gun, but the only reason that they are more accurate is because of 2 reasons;

one, they come with better stock barrels.

two, they are bricks, this means that there is a lot less kick=more accurate

if you took a shocker and an imp, fitted them with freaks with the same size inserts, mounted them in vices, and used the same paint you would see no difference but in the field the shocker is more accurate mostly due to its lack of kick.

[XSycloneX]

you are clueless about how the shocker is more accurate.

This is a simple explination. there is no hammer striking a valve in the shocker (thus no kick). instead of having a hammer/valve system, it has a second solenoid to release air through the valve.
the better barrel doesnt make it that more accurate, the progressive is actually a really good barrel. accuracy is all about paint to barrel match.

I do agree that the Shocker is a better back players gun.

[Ocelot213]

does it matter that the shocker is closed bolt and the imp is open?

[Dynasty_PB]

severe? A friend was shooting that today, dude im sorry but that stuff blows. Maybe he just got a bad bach but it was seriously crap or at least the ones he had, it does look pretty though

peace.love.unity

[Skog]

although some people say that closed bolt is more accurate than open bolt test have shown that there isn't, accuracy is all down to paint/barrel match and how steady you can keep your marker in a string of shots, this is why i think the shocker is more accurate in practise, it does not kick anywhere near as much as an impulse (stock imp anyway), and so you can hold it a lot more steadily when shooting strings of paint

[Weasel00]

How do I join that team? I wish I had somebody that could buy me my marker. Life would be so much easier.

The Impulse can be used as an all around marker. It is not a marker from everybody though. Some people like the balance of different markers. It is like a car. I guess if you are buying it for them, then they should not have a choice. If they want to shoot something different then they would have to buy it for themselves. :)

Jared

[XSycloneX]

your friend must have got a bad batch or something. My local shop's team used to be sponsored by Diablo. But they went to a tourney where the only paint that could be used was Severe. It shot really well, and out of the 20+ cases that the team used in the tourney, not a single ball broke in the barrel. The team ended up breaking off the sponsorship with Diablo so that they could shoot Severe.

[The Legend]

Originally posted by XSycloneX
Diablo (or should i say Draxus) paint blows. Try Severe. Its really new, and its the best paint I have Ever shot! Severe's premium paint is almost as good as Inferno.

I'm confused.

First you say Diablo sucks, then you say Severe is the best, then you say severe (the "best" paint), isn't as good as diablo...

[Dynasty_PB]

Originally posted by The Legend


I'm confused.

First you say Diablo sucks, then you say Severe is the best, then you say severe (the "best" paint), isn't as good as diablo...


hahahaha go Legend.......

Well hes gona go get another batch today and run it through again we will see.....

peace.love.unity

[XSycloneX]

i said that their Premium (which is Severe's lowest cost/quality paint) is almost as good as Inferno (which is Diablo's second best/expensive paint).

[Dynasty_PB]

I thought standard was the cheapest?


peace.love.unity

[StinkyGenius]

Impy's are great all around markers.....you can use them for any position on the field..out team has a front and a back player that use impulses and they both love them.......about shockers tho, I play back with mine and im not so sure that they are the best value for the money.........sure they have no kick and never break paint in breach because of low presure but they are not as fast as an impulse......i had 2 guys run through my lane in the last tournament that i was firing down as fast as i could and both went through without getting hit.....the shocker stok trigger just cant put enough paint in the air to ensure that somone running through your lane will be hit, also, with its crap efficiency you will need at least a 88ci 4500psi tank to keep up with how much paint you can throw. But back to the subject.........unless you are sponsered i would recomend letting everyone buy tere own marker by themselves as what would happen if someone couldn't pay one week or somthing along those lines.....But impulses are great markerrs.......just look at how many Am A. and pro teams are now shooting them............

[The Legend]

Originally posted by StinkyGenius
But impulses are great markerrs.......just look at how many Am A. and pro teams are now shooting them............

They're also all sponsored too.

Aftershock (one of the only top level teams who is allowed to use markers of the players choice) doesn't shoot any Imp's. That should also tell you something.

[XSycloneX]

Cyclone is the best, Tornado is the second best, and Premium is the third best(it might be called standard, im not sure though).

[StinkyGenius]

yes they are sponsered..............but teams like strange could get anyone to sponsor them...and they shoot mostly impy's now...and strange and the all A's have the option of shooting any of smart parts guns under that sponsorship.....and yet they shoot impys.....that should also tell you somthing :)

[The Legend]

Strange was SP sponsored before they were pro, they might be able to get 'any other' sponsorship now.

Like any company, SP wants their latest and greatest product to be promoted. I don't doubt All A's and Strange "can" shoot evo's or shockers, but I'm willing to bet it is frowned upon. I know a few guys from tippmann effect, while they aren't FORCED to shoot A-5's, tippmann strongly urges them to. Sponsorship talks, you do what they ask.

[mipaint]

Belive it or not guys, there was a time not that long ago that Strange shot cockers. Point is that this guys team has the choice of using any gun they want. THe Impulse happens to repsent the best VALUE in a turny quality marker. And there are some very real advanges ot using the same markers amount team mates-- at lest if you go to a turny well prepared enoungt to take spare parts.

Ofcourse no one is suggesting you try to force impulses down everyones gullet- but if the team guys WANT new guns, and everyone like the Impulse, getting together and making a "team buy" can save everyone some money on the guns. In effect, when you buy as a team, you can get wholesale pricing from most suppliers (same goes for your paint).

FOM

[The Legend]

Belive it or not guys, there was a time not that long ago that Strange shot cockers.

Evo's, a Smart Parts gun.

Point is that this guys team has the choice of using any gun they want.

Yeah, any gun....as long as it's made or distributed by smart parts.

And there are some very real advanges ot using the same markers amount team mates-- at lest if you go to a turny well prepared enoungt to take spare parts.

While it's good to have help from teammates, EVERYBODY should have enough replacement parts for their own marker, you shouldnt rely on anyone but yourself to fix something.

[cris8762]

yes, but there are those people that are'nt perfect like u legend :rolleyes: , they may once in a while forget to replace that ONE crucial part in their parts kit and need to borrow from a teammate, so ......:P

(jk man)

[The Legend]

Then it's their own damn fault!

:)

[pollacjw]

legend you still shooting your Matrix?

[The Legend]

That I am...