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Plastik
07-14-2002, 08:10 AM
ok i picked out 2 of my guns that i want.. but dont know which to get..either

Spyder shutter + J&J ceramic barrel

or

Spyder compact + x-chamber + J&J ceramic barrel

either gun will run on co2.

turtlemonkey
07-14-2002, 08:17 AM
shutter

halB
07-14-2002, 08:18 AM
id have to say shutter, you get rear cocking (which is like 75 bux for a complete rear cocking kit) and it already has a mini x chamber (i think) and a crappy reg. besides, x chambers are pointless. also the shutters gotta df. you should check out the xtra though, its center feed (even though you gotta replace the micro line that it comes with with macro line) or you could get a black dragun basic, pretty much like the shutter, but its electric!

Plastik
07-14-2002, 08:26 AM
i want semi auto gun ....

halB
07-14-2002, 08:31 AM
tis, tis, its basically a spyder, basically a spyder shutter in fact, but its got center feed, and an electric grip, semi auto only, but u can shoot faaaaaaaaaast

Plastik
07-14-2002, 09:40 AM
what are the difrences between xtra and shutter spyders?.... except vert feed.. will they perform the same with new barrel?...

halB
07-14-2002, 09:57 AM
xtra doesnt have reg, but the shutter reg breaks anyways, and the xtra has a microline which u need to change to macro line if ur interested in going lp. still check out the black dragun, u can get one with all the features for the same price as a shutter

Plastik
07-14-2002, 10:00 AM
yeah but i dont want electric dude.. if there somethin goes wrong with that electric system .. ill go nuts or somethin lol .. plus ill only use semi auto .. so its pointless gettin electro frame for me

halB
07-14-2002, 10:04 AM
the black dragun is basically spyder shutter, with center feed, and a sprint frame. the black dragun basic which is only 140 at actionvillage takes many of the upgrades that are available for the black dragun, and is even has the spyder thread. the electric frame itself is limited to only semi auto, which means you dont have to worry bout that. its extremely easy to take care of, and if anything happens to the gun, itll be the same problem you have with your spyder. also since it is electric you will be able to shoot extremely fast, the trigger pull is measured in mm. please consider the black dragun, i know if i was buying a gun, thatd be it. read the flash review of it http://www.pbreview.com/dragun.php

Plastik
07-14-2002, 12:11 PM
black dragun was one of my first choises... i cant get it because ill be going to skirmish usa most of the times ill be playin paintball .. and they dont allow electric markers.... but the place that is near me does... but that place that is near me only has inside speedball arena.... so when i would want to go play some woodsball ... ill have to rent those m98's that dont even shoot straight for 10 feet.

halB
07-14-2002, 12:21 PM
what kind of dumb *** nazi field doesnt allow electrics? that is the most bs ive ever heard of, man i would just kick that field owner in the balls. i mean it can only be used in semi mode, there arent any modes, whatta nazi

Plastik
07-14-2002, 12:40 PM
http://www.skirmish.com/
when i went ther and used their guns ... i wanted to buy one there casue theirs suck... and i asked the judge what kind of guns do they permit and he said that they only permit semi-autos
i dont know if he meant that electrics are not allowed or that electrics allowd with semi-auto mode only.... i dunno.. i send them email liek a week ago asking that question and i havnt gotten reply yet..


if u go to faq's... they tell u what guns u can use.. but i still dont understand if u can use electric or not..

has anyone gone to that place with electro ... and did they let u play?.... help plz thnx

halB
07-14-2002, 12:42 PM
i find it hard to believe such a popular field wouldnt allow electrics, assume it means they allow electros locked in semi auto, otherwise i dont see em hositn D day and getting a decent response

Plastik
07-14-2002, 12:47 PM
damn ... thats is the onyl question that holds me from gettin black dragun ... those guyts dont want to reply to my email ... ill send one more today prolly.....

halB
07-14-2002, 12:52 PM
call em up, they gotta number

Plastik
07-14-2002, 06:39 PM
ya thats what ill do ... thnx alot for yer help dude

Plastik
07-14-2002, 07:31 PM
hey ... when i press on m3 black dragun basic on pggear.com .. on the bottom i can pick out gear that i want them to send with the gun .. and out of those choises i can only pick the n2 tanks .. and not co2's.. does that mean that that gun only runs on n2?