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|xTx|
08-06-2002, 08:47 PM
Well...maybe this have been asked plenty of times but i really need help. I have been saving money since last year and now I have $900 US dollars. I've reading all reviews I can, not only on PBR. Im very interested in changing my actual marker (an M3 Patriot Sniper), and the markers I've looking at are:

1-Cold Fusion Autococker
2-Worrgames Autococker Vertical w/Flatline Barrel :eyes:
3-ICD Bushmaster LCD
4-Smart Parts Impulse with Vision Eye
5-AGD E-Mag w/Powerfeed Hopper Left :love:
6-Bob Long's Intimidator
7-Worrgames Black Magic Autococker 2001 :love:

The markers I'm most interested are the # 5 (AGD E-Mag) and also the # 7 (Worrgames Black Magic Autococker 2001 ). This is a really difficult decision and I hope somebody can help me.

halB
08-06-2002, 08:50 PM
emag or timmy. cockers are dead.

and if u have 900 could u send it to me?? i need money for car insurance

|xTx|
08-06-2002, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by halB

and if u have 900 could u send it to me?? i need money for car insurance

:laugh: WORK!

Sudden Impact
08-06-2002, 08:54 PM
yeah cockers are dead :rolleyes:

Ive never shot an Emag but I know the black magic cockers are ******...I love mine...but if you can, Id go with the emag w/ level 10 upgrade...

Shadow221
08-06-2002, 09:16 PM
definatly the E-mag. They now come w/LX so no chops ever, It's the fastest trigger out there, The internal reg is amazing, no shootdown ever.

stangman
08-06-2002, 09:43 PM
matrix

AK47
08-06-2002, 10:26 PM
I would go with the timmy

Dr. Isotope
08-06-2002, 10:46 PM
E Mag w/ Lvl.10 If you're going for overkill, it might as well be the maximum. Throw on a Warp and shoot 20bps upside-down.

UTLadiesMan
08-06-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Isotope
E Mag w/ Lvl.10 If you're going for overkill, it might as well be the maximum. Throw on a Warp and shoot 20bps upside-down.

...for about 1/2 a second...

The Mafia
08-07-2002, 12:18 AM
Emag or Timmy....

On a side note, how do you like your M3 Patriot?? I have a friend who wants an inexpensive electro and that is one of his considerations.

Dr. Isotope
08-07-2002, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by UTLadiesMan


...for about 1/2 a second...

Actually, .64 seconds. ;) :crazy:

Loosh35
08-07-2002, 07:21 AM
Get a Intimidator.It's alot lighter than a E-mag.

AngelsHolocaust
08-07-2002, 07:29 AM
i would go with the e-mag over the cocker..its hard to hurt a mag, but your cocker might go down if you sneeze the wrong way. a e-mag with level 10 would be killer

paintballdiablo
08-07-2002, 07:43 AM
Timmy. A GZ or 2k2. No need for upgrades with them.

Dr. Isotope
08-07-2002, 07:44 AM
Not a lot lighter than this one... but not really cheaper either. :|

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tournament/mardigras/2002/gallery/tech/MVC033S.jpg

jason5767
08-07-2002, 07:50 AM
What position do u play on the field. If you dont play back I wouldnt get the mag, especially if your putting warp feed on it. Thats heavy as anything, a guy at our field has one and its like 10lbs and quite bulky. Cockers aren't dead, but their are a lot better options out there so I would skip on the black magic too. I would go with the new Timmy's they are really good guns and u dont need to upgrade em, or a nice impulse with vision like a Rat, Freak Factory, or Nasty. So I would go for a Timmy, or nice impy if I were you. Those can be front players or back players guns too so their really good for resales too.

Richy_C
08-07-2002, 07:54 AM
I'd say go Angel, but thats just me. Emags trigger is... an aquired taste I never aquired (read:I hated it) and mags have a deal of kick and unbalanced weight. Get the Black Magic if you like it, but think about the Angel, Intimadator, and Matrix too.

CrazyB
08-07-2002, 07:58 AM
I got the one cocker that should be there, but isn't.

Orracle Cocker.

I've only held this sucker, but it's wicked light, has a nice trigger pull(some people claim it can be down to a few millimeters) nice milling, and is over all just nice.

I have to disagree with all the timmy talk, and i have one so i should be able to talk, get a matrix if you go that sorta electro, if you get the aardvark upgrades it's a hella nice gun, i woulda got it but i bought the initimidator before matrixes where out.

Now for my overall opinion...

Emag

DeFauLt
08-07-2002, 08:10 AM
micro e-mag with emagnum board and level 10. it's lighter than most e-mags and it isnt as expensive as the sfl. the emagnum board lets you fo 20bps full auto. and the level ten is simply amazing.

Spencer16896
08-07-2002, 09:07 AM
I just got a free flow last week and have only played with it once, but I absolutley love that thing. I love it so much, I have fun just holding it.

The basic model (no barrel or Reg) is $800, I got 2 boomsticks with mine and a 68 Mac Dev, and a Palmer Stabilizer which ran me like $1500. I say save up and get one. And no point in getting something that does full auto because most fields have out lawed it and it is illegal in all except full auto tournies.

Cockers are not dead. For the record.

UTLadiesMan
08-07-2002, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Isotope
Actually, .64 seconds. ;) :crazy:

Well, it could stop feeding 10 balls through, or it could wait and stop at 13 balls. Or anywhere inbetween... So I just used 10 because it's a safer guess and easier math.:blah:

Murph1
08-07-2002, 11:03 AM
C&C Angel on ebay, with 900 dollars you can use "Buy It Now" since the reserve price on most of them is 800 bucks. They look great and are dead-on accurate from the factory :)

halB
08-07-2002, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Spencer16896


Cockers are not dead. For the record.

wait 3 years

CrazyB
08-08-2002, 04:45 PM
Yea, but in 3 years your spyder will be dead, buried under at least 357 new Spyder models.

If you check the past of paintball, if you pick any two dates 3 years apart the technology is a lot different. Even from a 99 cocker to a 2k2 cocker the pneumatics and such have changed so it's safe to say that all our gear will be obsolete in 3 years.

Murph1
08-08-2002, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by CrazyB
Yea, but in 3 years your spyder will be deady, buried under at least 357 new Spyder models.


"You know, paintball's trying to separate itself from real firearms, the community would appreciate you not using ammunition sizes on a paintball forum" - The Liberal, Dumb, p.c. Paintballer<---SCREW HIM!!! LOL

Anyway, I just felt like making a dumb joke before posting a comment that will probably be perceived as intelligent.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, 3 years ago hinge triggers were unavailiable for autocockers, which are a major technological leap if you ask me because it allows for a reliable, 2 finger trigger setup, effectively boosting ROF, without spending rediculous amounts of money for an electronic autococker. We also have loaders that can keep up with the electronic guns that came out more than 5 years ago now, while 3 years ago they were in the conceptual phases of development or not in development at all. Also, about you saying wait 3 years for cockers to be dead? I don't think so. Autocockers have undergone so much evolution over the 10+ years they've been around, they've pretty much become the PREMIERE high-end rec paintgun and the custom variations have become some of the most effective paintguns used in tournaments ever. And I bet that as long as there are creative thinkers in the sport of paintball that autocockers will keep evolving. But that doesnt mean that I'll buy one, I'm too savvy at breaking stuff :D

- Murph