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WunderChicken
08-09-2002, 07:18 AM
Hey all,

I am going to buy an impy soon, and was getting a little lost. On the smart parts site, there is just an impulse w/ what looks like a gas through grip. But on the other paintball stores online, i see the gas through grip and a max flow reg. I'm not sure if this comes w/ the gun, what it is, etc. Is that the kind of regulator that you have to mount the tank with? Also, what is a good price for something w/ the maxflow and gas through grip? Like new off of one of the paintball sites, and used? Please help, I am getting VERY lost because none of the sites have descriptions of what is on the gun, just how great it is...


Thanks,
Mike

gshipe88
08-09-2002, 08:52 AM
I just bought my gun from EPBO. Try going to their website at http://www.e-paintballoutlet.com Also, the stock impulse should come with a vertical Maxflo Regulater, the gas-through grip, and a 12" progressive for about $400 bucs. If you're buying an Impulse, go with EPBO. Good luck to you and I hope this helps.

WunderChicken
08-09-2002, 09:07 AM
Thanks,

Is the maxflow the same thing as on smart parts web site? the maxflow 4500?

Mike

mipaint
08-09-2002, 09:10 AM
Well let me confuse you...

Basicly you have two lines of Impulses. The "bottom line" reg (reg in mounted below the grip) and the Vert reg impulses. The guns are the same- just a difference in where the reg is mounted. The bottom reg gun is less expensive and now comes with at gas thru grip.

THe Vertical reg gun is my personal recomendation. You have a lot more versitality on what type of Air source you use and how you mount it. I also feel the guns balances better (and therfore "points" better)

There are an alful lot of people that have bottom line regs that wnat to upgrade to the vertical reg-- I am aware of only one person that had a vert reg and wanted to go back to the bottom line reg.

Beyond that there are a number of other thinks you can get on an Impulse. The big one is Vision. Vision is an electric eye that can "see" if paint has dropped into the gun. this is designed to avoid your "chopping" paint when you shoot REALY fast. Frankly- as you have to ask, I think I can say with a good deal of assurance that you don't need to spend the extra $150 on Vision (at least not yet)

Some shops will custombuild your gun. This is a BIG advanges because you can get the important upgrades right from the get go. What Important upgrades you ask? Well every Impulse Should have an "air mod" this will avoid your gun having "bolt stick". The most resionable priced air mod is the Tapeworm. The other mod you should get is an adjustable trigger. I prefer a blade type. There are packages with the Blade trigger and Tapeworm already installed on new guns- you should consider these.

FOM

gshipe88
08-09-2002, 09:12 AM
I'm pretty sure it is. They don't really show you any good pictures on the smartparts website so I can't be sure. Sorry

WunderChicken
08-09-2002, 09:51 AM
Appreciate the info, but I have another question (sorry if i'm being annoying, but its a lot of money and I like to know what i'm buying).

This is a question about the reg. For sure it sounds like I am going to get the blade trigger. I don't think i quite understand what the tape worm does, if someone could expound upon that for me. But if i get the vert max flow reg, that is for a screw in HPA correct? What if i want to get a hardcore air system taht is mounted to my gun? Would i think completly remove the vert reg and replace w/ my new mounted system + reg. I don't want to buy a vert max flow then just toss it when i upgrade my air system.

Thanks for all of your help,
Mike

team hessians
08-09-2002, 10:44 AM
tapeworm provides a better air flow to the solenoid,

if you get the bottom line maxflow and decide to get a adjustable air system that mounts onto your gun, then your gonna have a problem, but if you get the vert reg you will be just fine.

WunderChicken
08-09-2002, 10:58 AM
So having 2 regulators doesn't matter (I assume the air system mount would have its own regulator and then the vert maxflow)?

Thanks,
Mike

mipaint
08-09-2002, 11:06 AM
The "under grip" reg limithes you to ONLY screw in tanks. SP intents you to use that with a CO2 tank with ON/OFF valve. TO use any other (screw in) airsource, it is simple to grind down the pin about .060" so you can use a pin valve.

The vertical reg allows you to use any air source-- a screw in will go into the bottom line with no modifacation. It is easy to add a drop forward, and you can even use use dovel tail on/offs on drop forwards if you wnat-- and ofcourse you can use ANY n2 system (in most cases you would retain the vertical reg)

The tapeworm prevents the valve from sucking air away from the solonoid. with a stock Impulse, If you fire on an enpty chamber, you will often get a pause before the bolt comes back- sometimes you might even have to manuely recock. The tape worm , an ISO mod, or a LPR will elimate this.

Hope this helps

FOM

Dark Cloud
08-09-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by WunderChicken
Hey all,

I am going to buy an impy soon, and was getting a little lost. On the smart parts site, there is just an impulse w/ what looks like a gas through grip. But on the other paintball stores online, i see the gas through grip and a max flow reg. I'm not sure if this comes w/ the gun, what it is, etc. Is that the kind of regulator that you have to mount the tank with? Also, what is a good price for something w/ the maxflow and gas through grip? Like new off of one of the paintball sites, and used? Please help, I am getting VERY lost because none of the sites have descriptions of what is on the gun, just how great it is...


Thanks,
Mike

Okay, you are going to be better off if you get a Vert Reg Impulse than the under the grip Reg.
Then go to www.e-paintballoutlet.com look under the Package Deals section for the Starter Package. It comes with a 20 oz C02 Anti-Siphon w/ On and Off, Revy, and a barrel condom. You can also add a blade trigger (Highly Reccomended) and some Sticky Grips.

If you get really confused call one of their tech guys and they will answer all of your questions and stuff.

When all else fails, Read the FAQ

WunderChicken
08-09-2002, 11:35 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, but I already have the revy, nitro (68/3000), and jimmy hat. I am just wondering now if having 2 regulators will not be feeesible or will reduce performance?

Thanks,
Mike

Wuzup101
08-11-2002, 02:30 PM
Alright I don't personally own an imp...but am looking into getting one. However this regulator question is general paintball knowledge and not really specific to only the imp. If you get a double regged tank... IE: maxflow, geddon, angel air, etc... and have a vertical max flow you will not have a problem. The nice thing about the vertical max flow (as was stated here) is that you can use any tank you want...a screw in with a duckbill asa or an adjustable dlb reg tank that you just attach your hose to. You can also use multiple different drops with your air system...basically it lends it self very nicely to custom setups. Another added bonus is they tend to have a higher resale...and their value holds a bit better. If you decide that you want to go for a nice new adjustable tank...say a conquest... all you have to do is make sure the output pressure on your conquest is set high enough so that it doesn't stave your inline max flow (vertical reg). Usually the general rule is to set your tank output about 300 psi above your inline reg...if you notice any shootdown you may have to bump it up. So if your running your imp at 180ish psi you would need to set your tank output to 480 or higher. Higher wont hurt but lower may starve the inline maxflow.

WunderChicken
08-11-2002, 04:18 PM
Hey, thanks for the info.

So I assume that the MaxFlow tank is a different system then the inline vert maxflow reg?

Mike