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team_ambush
08-13-2002, 09:57 PM
What gun is the best for the price of $200?

Piranha eforce

piranha pro ts

jt excellerator 5.0

M3 led/lcd black dragon

syder e99

spyder flash

Other?
Flanders
08-13-2002, 11:20 PM
id say black dragun for shure, good guns, my freinds jt sucks, my other freind e99 sucks hard, spyder and spyder clone e guns suck,
The Mafia
08-14-2002, 01:56 AM
I would agree that the M3 Black Dragun LCD would be the best choice out of the markers you listed.
automagdude
08-14-2002, 10:26 AM
get the dragun lcd
Sconic
08-14-2002, 06:25 PM
ummmm, flanders, a black dragun IS a spyder clone e gun. in fact, its 100% spyder compatible, its an exact clone!

but yeah either the black dragun lcd or the eforce
cocker kid 2k2
08-14-2002, 07:13 PM
i also agree the black dragun is ur best bet
ImpYa
08-14-2002, 07:50 PM
black dragun lcd with antisiphon co2...works great
automagdude
08-14-2002, 07:55 PM
yeah don't forget the antisiphon bc the dragun shoots fast
viperisi5
08-14-2002, 07:59 PM
My friend has a black dragun and it actually suprised/impressed me. Dont forget the anti siphon, and a large tank preferably. They are very fast guns!! Also a frind of mine got one for $65, so look around hard and you will find one dirt cheap.
splatterpunx
08-14-2002, 09:24 PM
none of the above,save,scrounge or work for 50-60 more bux
and get a BK0
automagdude
08-15-2002, 11:54 AM
yes the bko that would be very good choice i forgot about that
erich
08-29-2002, 11:44 AM
get a m3 patriot sniper
MINDofSIN
08-29-2002, 12:23 PM
What does the Dragun have that makes it better than an Eforce? Either one will work almost identically.

I don't like Kingman and the two mechanical blowbacks in the list can't match the speed.
starboarder2001
08-29-2002, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by erich
get a m3 patriot sniper

nooo....there is nothing special about the patriot sniper.

get the bd compact and with the money u saved buy a revvy and nitro. When u are ready to move to a better gun keep your bd for backup and u will already have a revvy and nitro for your next gun.:D
viperisi5
08-29-2002, 06:01 PM
not to be offensive but does any one else find saying "nitro" annoying? It makes you sound like you dont know what your talking about, in my opinion.
vailripper
09-15-2002, 10:13 PM
Eforce IMO. I love the feel of it. I tried both the black dragun LCD and Sniper and the eforce was way better than both of them. Trust me, you will love it.
scud2519
09-15-2002, 10:23 PM
A TRIBAL is your best bet. So what if they're out of business. They look sweet and are electropneumatic and can be found for under 200 !!!
PolicarStudios
09-15-2002, 10:24 PM
Black dragun. The trigger pull on it is perfect, I can rip on it like nothing else...it's an even better pull stock than the impulse i tried and the heavily adjusted matrix. Really good parts, too. Almost exactly like a spyder, but seems even higher quality in some ways. Anyway, get the basic. It's like 130 dollars and semi-only but totally the best for the money. Semi-only is good, remember.
Excellerator3.5
09-16-2002, 05:34 PM
get an impulse with eclipse blade trig :love:
viperisi5
09-16-2002, 06:13 PM
WOW !!! I just shot one of those new electronic pirhanas. It was Awsome!!!! Grab one and a new barrel for it, it made me almost shi% myself when I was shooting it.
vailripper
09-16-2002, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by viperisi5
WOW !!! I just shot one of those new electronic pirhanas. It was Awsome!!!! Grab one and a new barrel for it, it made me almost shi% myself when I was shooting it.

Yea, exactly. They are so sweet. I am gettin a J&J Ceramic for it, the eforce is gonna rip.
viperisi5
09-17-2002, 02:33 PM
its going to rip?!?!?!!? whatever dude, that thing already does MORE than RIP. I shoot an impulse, if you dont have that kind of budget that pirahna e-force IS THE gun to get. Just slap on a new barrel, get a compressed air tank and the gun is more than tournament ready.
vailripper
09-17-2002, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by viperisi5
its going to rip?!?!?!!? whatever dude, that thing already does MORE than RIP. I shoot an impulse, if you dont have that kind of budget that pirahna e-force IS THE gun to get. Just slap on a new barrel, get a compressed air tank and the gun is more than tournament ready.

Okay, let me cprrect myself. It will mucho ripo. Si, porque mi Eforce es tan sweeto!:laugh:
PolicarStudios
09-17-2002, 08:42 PM
The electronic triggers I've shot are:

Tricked out matrix (one currently used by the team from Boston Paintball). It was fast, but I had some trouble walking it. I really couldn't get much beyond 8-9bps on it.

Stock impulse: Lots of slack, but really light pull.

Upgraded trigger impulse: A little slack but I could really rip on it.

Spyder AMG: First electro trigger, seemed reasonably fast.

Angel: Sweet...it had a sweetsport that was basically full auto.

Black Dragun: Honestly the fastest thing I've shot. Outshot a 12v revvy in first 4 shots going into it. The other markers (save for the AMG) are quieter, more accurate, and just all around amazing, but the dragun's recoil allows it to be somewhat responsive. A really fun marker to shoot and great for the price.
vailripper
09-18-2002, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by PolicarStudios
The electronic triggers I've shot are:

Tricked out matrix (one currently used by the team from Boston Paintball). It was fast, but I had some trouble walking it. I really couldn't get much beyond 8-9bps on it.

Stock impulse: Lots of slack, but really light pull.

Upgraded trigger impulse: A little slack but I could really rip on it.

Spyder AMG: First electro trigger, seemed reasonably fast.

Angel: Sweet...it had a sweetsport that was basically full auto.

Black Dragun: Honestly the fastest thing I've shot. Outshot a 12v revvy in first 4 shots going into it. The other markers (save for the AMG) are quieter, more accurate, and just all around amazing, but the dragun's recoil allows it to be somewhat responsive. A really fun marker to shoot and great for the price.

What does it mean to "walk" it?
Excellerator3.5
09-18-2002, 04:36 PM
ever hear of the term piano key?
you hit the top and bottom in a rhythmic pace giving you a higher bps.
like this
with 2 fingers - top bottom top bottom top bottom etc.
starboarder2001
09-18-2002, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by viperisi5
not to be offensive but does any one else find saying "nitro" annoying? It makes you sound like you dont know what your talking about, in my opinion.

stuff like "nitrous" "nitrous oxide" makes u sound dumb but nitro doesnt too me. every one i know says nitro so it sounds fine to me.
ImpYa
09-24-2002, 04:43 PM
Yeah nothing is wrong with saying "nitro"(nitrogen not No2). A lot of the time i just call it Air.

Also, i have had amazing results with my BD. Recoil has been reduced to less than half, blow-back is down, it has good range and accuracy, very well crafted, durable, and running at 350psi i get great efficiency.

Oh yeah, i hardly ever chopped with my BD. Every time i would out shoot my 12volt revvy with WAS Turbo board and JMJ Impeller it would pinch the ball, not chop. Since i was constantly out shooting it, I switched to the eVL2. I have owned Imps and Custom Cockers...this is what i shoot now.

ImpYa