View Full Version : Future of paintball
Richy_C
01-31-2001, 12:36 PM
Where do you think paintball tech is going? reply to back up you answer
SmartBall
01-31-2001, 01:29 PM
I didn't vote for one simple reason...
All those are very good answers, and all of those could happen, at the same time, in the future so i vote for all :)
A damn fool
01-31-2001, 02:51 PM
I bet in the near future paintball gunds will be running on something else, not co2 or nitro. There will probably be some other kind of stuff to shoot the gun, and would probably be carried in a lot smaller tank, but with more shots. That would be sweet, hooking up a tank the size of a 7ounce but getting like 2000 shots
MuckRaker
01-31-2001, 02:51 PM
I voted Seamless Paintballs, since that's the one thing on the list that hasn't come to pass, and probably is the one thing that needs to happen.
Electros are everywhere, and kits are available to convert Semis. So, with faster firing markers, more accurate markers and barrels, Better air systems ... Now RPS needs to get off it's Keister and develop a more Accurate and Stable Paintball. Seamless will be the Wave of the Future.
elTwitcho
01-31-2001, 03:37 PM
Actually, Tom Kaye made a seamless paintball about the same time he made the mag prototype. He became obsessed with a perfect sphere paintball, and beleived he would get better accuracy and range. He found that the range and accuracy benefits were negligible and the project was abandoned for paintball because it was too expensive. however, perfect sphere balls are used for police training and are filled with water, and in some movies theya re filled with pyrotechnics. i say electric everything, if you imagine a gun with electro regs, and thnk about it, the possibilites are incredible. I wont say what is possible, because I'm hoping to someday pitch this idea to a company and say "That was my idea" before someone comes up with it, but just think of the stuff you could do if the gun knew what pressure it was operating at
Phaelon Veritas
01-31-2001, 04:21 PM
all this talk of things old things new How does this idea hit you for alternative power source electro magnetic slide the or more like sling the ball... only problem would be carrying batteries but just the same hey no more buying air...
Paintball Monkey
01-31-2001, 05:11 PM
electro cockers are here, and they aren't that great
Richy_C
01-31-2001, 05:39 PM
still not many of them though
TLplus84
01-31-2001, 07:26 PM
i think that slowly all of these things are coming to already. 5 years ago, an electropneumatic gun was unheard of. Now the paintball market is flooded with great electro markers. As for smaller size tanks, alot of people are using the new steel tanks for N2, which are smaller but hold just as much as a fiber glass wrapped tank. magnetic triggers are already here, thanks to the new E-Mag. Electro Regs are coming about to, with the new Angel N2 tank. That tank is regulated by an electronic regulator. You see, the stuff that we fantasize about is slowly coming a reality.
SmartBall
02-01-2001, 01:18 PM
I totally agree with you TL+ dude...
The stuff we imagined say, 5 years back are all coming true!
Soon paintball will be a tech sport and not a skill sport :(
Just think though; If you have a gun that can fire twenty ball a second, and your versing a gun that is totally manual, your going to have the advantage.
Also it will become a sport of money, meaning the person willing to spend the most money on the gun that can fire 20 bps efficiantly will have the advantage.
It seems like paintball is becoming TOO commercial.
Just my opinions though
SmartBall
Counterfeit
02-01-2001, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by SmartBall
It seems like paintball is becoming TOO commercial.
No it is just becoming a mainstream sport.
Richy_C
02-01-2001, 02:27 PM
exactly! lol!
TLplus84
02-01-2001, 02:30 PM
that's good. Paintball, if it becomes mainstream, means that more peope will be able to look at the TRUE aspects of paintball, and how it does not glorify war or how we do not abuse our markers for other purposes. Maybe one day paintball will become an olympic sport..phat huh?
SmartBall
02-01-2001, 02:30 PM
I just meant commercial because so many new companys are gettin in the game.
But your right too
SmartBall
Counterfeit
02-01-2001, 02:33 PM
The more companies the better for the players. More companies will make prices drop. It gives each other compatition.
TLplus84
02-01-2001, 02:43 PM
hrmmm...never though of it like that...i guess paitball goin mainstream has alot of positive ripples that affect the players for the better.
SmartBall
02-01-2001, 02:46 PM
the more companies, the more products to choose from!
Its already overwhelming just to pick out the best part!
imagine what it will be like when 100 companies all have the same part, but in different disigns!
So overwhelming!!! :)
SmartBall
TLplus84
02-01-2001, 05:26 PM
man i bet like in 3 years...Angels will be like 500 dollars...hehe woudln't that be great?? :D
PB ninja
02-01-2001, 05:31 PM
I think that cheap electros will become very popular. Electro guns are really popular right know and when they become more accessable to the midrange market people will just lap them up. I just hope that when it happens fields don's get flooded with crappy paint spewing electro's.
actually since BPS is as fast as it really needs to be I see that the balls themselves will change. Not necissarily seamless but more shapewise. More like a football so accuracy and distance can be improved. If you look at real guns you will see that the musket changed from a round ball to what is now the oblong modern shape. With that the game of paintball will once more take on a vast change!
TLplus84
02-02-2001, 12:25 PM
naw..i think that paintballs will become kinda like golf balls. the dimples in the golf balls make them more accurate and go further, and i think that's what's gonna happen to paintablls.
Richy_C
02-02-2001, 12:34 PM
well if you want dimpled balls there's always brass eagle! and foot ball paitballs would have loading problems and hurt
TLplus84
02-02-2001, 12:38 PM
no not that kind of dimples...Look at golf balls, and shrink them to paintball size. The dimples on golf balls are engineered to maximize distance and accuracy, so if you apply the same physics to Paintball..it would have positive effects.
Predator2
02-02-2001, 02:40 PM
I vote for all of them except the all guns go electro b/c there are some people that prefer not electro over electro. My opinion.
SmartBall
02-02-2001, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by TLplus84
The dimples on golf balls are engineered to maximize distance and accuracy, so if you apply the same physics to Paintball..it would have positive effects.
True I do not disagree woth your accuracy thoery, the only thing i disagree to getting rid of dimples on paintballs all together is the fact that they might become TOO hard to break.
Think for a second:(ok i'm not talking about TL+ anymore)
The paintball is an object being projected through the air at 250 - 300 FPS. when a the ball hits the target object (i.e. tree, human, bunker, your own foot ;)) Its going to break at the point that has the weakest strenth on its walls. The weakest part of a paintball is the seam, because it is two peices of gelatin that are being joined together. Now when a paintball hits the target the seems blow out and paint is applied to the target object.
After the game (if you survive) You usually see the halves of paintballs laying around, occasionally an obliterated shell. If you take away the seems alltogether, the ball is going to have an eaqual strength on all sides of it's walls, not allowing the ball to break at its seems. This will make the impact on the person harder and it will hurt more, but thats not important. If you take away the seem, you will also have more bounces, meaning more shots, meaning more money speant on paintballs, ending in less people playing do to the amount of paintballs needed. This is all hypathetical, so don't go crazy with resonces saying i'm crazy! :)
Originally posted by TLplus84
The dimples on golf balls are engineered to maximize distance and accuracy, so if you apply the same physics to Paintball..it would have positive effects.
This has to be THE best idea i've ever heard man! the dimples will make it more accurate, and at the same time, easier to break! Pure Genious!
Just my 2 cents though,
SmartBall
TLplus84
02-02-2001, 04:33 PM
no offense or anything..but were you being saracastic? lOL i can't tell..it's all in typing..haha
SmartBall
02-02-2001, 04:47 PM
I said i was being "hypothetical", um i think. ;)
no just trying to prove a point, guess i went overboard though. but do you get the point?
SmartBall
TLplus84
02-02-2001, 05:01 PM
haha no no i'm talking about that last part...hehe
SmartBall
02-02-2001, 05:31 PM
I seriously meant that you had a genious idea in you head! The physics, the shape, The airodynamics, the structural integrity! Genious dude, Genious!
SmartBall
TLplus84
02-02-2001, 05:36 PM
LOL thanx for the compliment...i was looking at a golf ball one day and it just came into my mind..LOL
A damn fool
02-02-2001, 05:45 PM
Yeah, there i sonly one probelm. A golf ball is huge, and they are made individual. They are also made with a rubber core with string wrapped around, and then the cover is put over it and worked on A paintball, on the other hand, is filed with a liquid enclose in a gel capsul, so hwo can u possibly put the dimples all over. Golf balls also have holes with diffrent sizes and depths all over them, allow them to go farther, but it just doesnt seem poible to do that on a paintball, there too small and two thin to work on, not to mention if they were ever made, it would take hours jsut to make a case, and no company is going to spend that to produce them., However , they make paintballs with words on themn, so u never know, but i got to admit, it would be a kick *** idea, but ud probably be able to buy a second spyder over a case of them.
Good job shooting ur own foot, but hey, it could be worse, u didnt kill 2 of ur own guys, lol
SmartBall
02-02-2001, 06:01 PM
True, good idea watson, but are you looking at all the angles?
A paintball is made of two gelatin capsules joined together to hold the vegetable oil with food coloring added, to make it biodegratible.
Possibly, when you make the two gelation capsules, you could vacuum form them so that the little "dimples" like a golf ball has are punctured into it! Good idea? that wouldn't take too much longer for a case of them to be made. they'd just be more expensive! the the two vacuum formed capsules would encase the paint for the inside of the paintball! and walla you have a golf ball shaped paintball. you don't need to add the rubber and all, just the paint!
Heres another good idea: Make the shells of the paintball clear! so you can see the paint on the inside. that would be cool ;)
SmartBall
TLplus84
02-02-2001, 06:13 PM
that is very possible. BE already has clear shells...it's crappy but still..hehe
Richy_C
02-02-2001, 06:34 PM
no no no, clear shell, clear fill that changes color on contact with air
SmartBall
02-03-2001, 03:09 PM
Thats an awesome idea! Send it to RPS or PMI! they'll love that idea! a clear shell with a clear fill that changes color on contact. brilliant!
SmartBall
A damn fool
02-03-2001, 03:49 PM
If they could put those designs on the paintballs shells, it would be awsome, but it would have to be differnt then that off a golf ball. The design on a golf ball is made so that when t is shot up, it will catch the air underneth it and allow it to go higher and farther. The paintball would need to have a different design to allow t to fly straighter and not cathc the wind and turn up, but remain at a constant altitde as long as possible. If they could do that, it would kick ***, just i dont know if people coould afford it.
The Clear pantball thing would be awsome, it wuold eliminate people being able to see paintballs and dodging them, but would also not allow the shooter to foolow them very easy, still it would kick ***, awsome idea
TLplus84
02-03-2001, 05:55 PM
about the golf ball thing, you know it's jsut a theory i cam eup with.. iguess with a little mroe reseawrch it could happen...the clear paintabll thing is one cool idea~!
MuckRaker
02-03-2001, 06:31 PM
What if each half of the paintball was separated by a membrane, and each half contained one component of a dye, so that, say, each half contained a white fill, but when the ball busted and the fill in each half mingled, it would create, say, Blue or Yellow or Green ... Something to think about anyway.
TLplus84
02-03-2001, 06:32 PM
what if only one part broke? hmm..that would be cool though..
MuckRaker
02-03-2001, 06:43 PM
You ever see a perfect half of a shell on the ground after a game???
I didn't think so!! :eek:
TLplus84
02-04-2001, 09:28 AM
actually i have :D
A damn fool
02-04-2001, 10:30 AM
Yeah, you see them a lot at my field. Ive actually found a paitnball split right on the seam, butnot seprated. That was pretty cool
TLplus84
02-04-2001, 10:33 AM
man that golf ball idea..i'm gonna make MILLIONS with that idea.hehe :D
A damn fool
02-04-2001, 11:28 AM
lol. What u got to do is make a golf ball paintball with clear shell and clear fill that will chage colors when it breaks open. That would be phat, only probelm iud pay liek 5 dollars a ball
A damn fool
02-04-2001, 11:28 AM
lol. What u got to do is make a golf ball paintball with clear shell and clear fill that will chage colors when it breaks open. That would be phat, only probelm iud pay liek 5 dollars a ball, but it would be sweet
A damn fool
02-04-2001, 11:30 AM
why did it reply twice like that?
TLplus84
02-04-2001, 11:31 AM
i think it's because you might've hit submit reply twice..not sure though
MuckRaker
02-04-2001, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by TLplus84
actually i have :D
Think about it ... Say only half breaks, it's still a mark, just white. Personally, I've never seen a perfect half of a paintball, and if I did, I'd probably think someone split it on purpose. But hey, that's just me.
SmartBall
02-07-2001, 10:55 AM
How'd ja know i was splitting them Perfectly in half?
No, J/K, but i've seen plenty o ball shells split perfectly in half, plenty! Just look harder, i gurantee you'll find one. The seem is the weeakest place, so think about it, thats were the balls most likely gonna break, ya know it?
Richy_C
02-07-2001, 12:23 PM
once i had these marbs, they were so fresh that they kept bouncing no matter what, so i ran my nail alnog the seams, ten the were spiltin' like a blondes legs
Richy_C
02-08-2001, 02:50 PM
a thought came to me, what about tl's golf (paint) balls with my invisiball (excuse the pun) idea, wouldn't that rock? mmmmmm where can i email RPS? lol j/k
TLplus84
02-08-2001, 04:35 PM
LOL I GET HALF THE PROFITS!~!! :D:D
Richy_C
02-09-2001, 08:17 AM
so do i!
SmartBall
02-09-2001, 11:49 AM
I suggested the Golf ball/Color changing ball first! I get 1% of da profits! lets see that would be about... J/K :D
No, no, no, you need HEAT-SEEKING PAINTBALLS ! There are heat sensing nanomachines embedded in the shell, which in turn opens thousands of microscopic flaps on the ball to curve it toward the heat ! Patent ! :D:D:D Man, that would cost like, 3.2 million per ball !
Richy_C
02-10-2001, 07:21 AM
lol, a fail prove anti bad guy scheme is lit 'em on fire and launch a heat seaker
TLplus84
02-10-2001, 02:53 PM
lol i think your b0dy heat would be more than enough..but then who would be able to afford them~?
Richy_C
02-10-2001, 03:33 PM
hey, i guess we'd be foced to sell out guns and throw the paintballs, old school
TLplus84
02-10-2001, 03:53 PM
LOL you can use your slingshot~! :D
Richy_C
02-10-2001, 03:56 PM
i do have a 54" blowgun, mini paintshooter
TLplus84
02-10-2001, 03:57 PM
paintball cannons~! >=)
Richy_C
02-10-2001, 05:25 PM
the make it yourself paint cannons are ssooooooooo dangerous
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