POST YOUR BEST TACTICS

[ZacT26]

Well what are they

[Pookister569]

well anyway i would say a good tactic is to do something really crazy, something your opponent won't predict. like running like hell and getting behind them and shooting them up. or just being a sneaky ******* and slowly crawl around a bunker that has a bad guy. :p

[omegaman5833]

best tactic is one of the simplest; flanking. you engage in a fire fight with an oppenant while your team mate circles around and engages from the side or back. NOTE: because this is such a popular tactic, many teams have counter-flank players already in position to eliminate any flanking attempts.

[TRTChaoS]

best tactical is "dont get shot!"

[M98/Spyder]

Use Decoys, a crazy kid running and sceaming or singing loudly to occupy their attention, A small force of about 1/3 of your guys with the loudest guns makes a lot of noise(descretly though like snapping twigs and ruseling bushes) and shoots at anything that moves. The quite group goes and attacks while the other teams attention is on the other guys, if you play at night (rember that TRT) just one guy with a flashlight the human eye is drawn to light.

[jrr112]

playing the lines with plenty of cover, always works for me.

[BRYCEBOY18]

Patience

don't get to ancy, have patience and calm down and think about choices you have and act.

[ciaran.mooney]

Where i play the marshalls divide our team into smaller teams, those that go left, right, centre and defend - this is rec-ball.

Chances are that one team will break through round the back and give support from the back, or get the flag.

Worked time and time again for me, great against adults that have never played before. :D they all think they're rambos and just go straight down the centre :)

Except the pros, bloody hard to play against - took me about 5 mins to get one out!

[xtreme_ryguy]

i like sneakin to different obstacles when they're not lookin... they pop up and point where you WERE but you shoot em right in the goggles

when your shootin someone, you wanna be there first. get above something and point and wait. as soon as they pop up shoot um cause your already ready but they have to look around and aim while your already there... unless they moved without you knowin. when i think someones already there, i just pop up fast and take a look where. then i get ready, pop up fast and shoot at em. they usually take a few shots, and duck to avoid gettin hit. so then your there first again. when im there and someone comes up, even if they're shootin and missin by centimeters, i dont go down i nail them suckers! but then again maybe thats just me.

sometimes in Capture the Flag when we got it i totally go Kamikaze and shoot em up, but when we are playin elimination theres no need for it and i sniper and float around without bein noticed and try and get up close shots.

[SmartDyeSpyder]

Communications, is the best, and also having someone really lucky and just run for the flag and no one notices but me, then we capture it and no one notices, our team was very communiative and took the other team out w/ any of us getting shot.

[Paint Bulley]

IF you have a bunch of bunkers in lines, right when the guy is about to look out one side of his bunker charge him, run by the other side and get in a bunker behind him. Then if he stays there he has no cover, and if he rotates to the other side the rest of your team can get him.

Especially good if you can shoot more than one of them without them knowing you are behind them.

I did this to a guy and he just stared at me dumfoundedly. I dove over a log and he started shooting at me like crazy, so I popped up and tagged him twice. I then got out another guy on his team.

[Magadeth]

This is all woods ball with a group of about 27 people.

First game 3 man sniper team- work you way into some thick cover and aproach the enemy carefully so as not to be detected. Maintain a triangular formation keeping a good distance from each other The best point man (ME) should be the tip of the arrow pointing at the other team. We ran into the main body of the other team who were trying to sneak through the area we were covering. Once you see the other team set up in front of them and have the point guy only open fire. (I nailed 2 with the opening shots) the point man then ceases to act like a sniper and runs away noisily firing as you go. the idea is to get them to chase you. They fell for it and ran into tho other two points of the triangle and several more were eliminated. At this point the triangle formation is inverted from how you started out, and the person who was point makes sure that no-one flanks your team. This tends to work like a charm. The three of us held up a group of 10 and the rest of our team wiped out thier diversion force and then came in behind the survivors that had run into us and from then on it was mop-up.

Second game, I am off to the side by myself and five of them go by me as I hide in plain view in a bunch of ferns. I had made sure that I was in the shade so that there would be no glare of the gogs for them to detect me by. they head towards the rear of a bunker trying to sneak in close. I follow behind them still not opening fire. I wait until they are almost in position to attack the bunker and open fire on them from behind I get two and the bunker cleans up the rest. Their surprise was gone and they were in a crossfire from 3 guns, I wish I could have seen thier faces under thier masks as their plan went to pot.

3rd game- beacause of the nature of the field, both teams had been trying to reach the flag by attacking the sides. The center is almost devoid of cover and protected by a nearly impregnable bunker. One guy was taking charge and outlining a plan to do basically the same thing. I had a better Idea.send out some decoys to make alot of noise on both sides to make them think we are doing what they expect, and then have the main group do the unthinkable and charge right at that bunker to pull the flag. He argued for his plan and I for mine(at this point in the day I didn't know who the guy was)one of his buddies pulls me aside and tells me he's a swat guy. I am impressed with his credetials but still want to try my plan. A bunch of my buddies, some of whom I've been plaing with for 6-7 years back me up and we go for it. Worked like a charm. There were only three guys defending the flag from that approach and although they got a couple of us I managed to pull the flag.

Id write down some more but this post is too long allready.

I'll end it with a few tips for sneaky types
Always stay in the shade of a tree. Most people are detected by glare from the sun bouncing off you gogs or gun.

Move with the wind. If its a breezy day and you are in close and dont want them to hear you, move when the breeze picks up and they probably wont hear you.

Never underestimate the value of a low crawl approach. Sure it takes a little longer to get there, and you are down in the dirt, but the lower you are the harder it is to detect you.

If you are hidden and someone looks in your direction, do not move a muscle. think "I am a rock" I dont know how many times people have looked right at me and moved on.

Use every bit of elevation that you can. even if its a slight mound or depression, you can use it. I've shot at people, dropped into a ravine and then ran down it only to emerge behind them

Finally KEEP MOVING! DONT BE A CAMPER BE A SNIPER! ATTACK!

[Q98]

I just stay along the extreme sides of the course, only 1 side to defend. Then an enemy walkes right by me watching the firefight in the middle of the field. then i shoot- whap whap whap elimination.

[Magnus55]

I like to chuck rocks. Not at the other players of course, but in other directions from myself to shift the focus off of me when it's at a quiet point in the game and people are aproaching and trying to figure out where I am. It works well too, just don't hit a ref.:rolleyes:

[Paintball_Playa]

If you're playing speedball or hyperball then as soon as the game starts, have everyone run to a bunker except one player, who will stand just barely in bounds. This player will proceed to jump around, run side to side and juke like a football player. Their team will, needless to say, be distracted (if they're newbies). Now the other players can execute bunkering moves.:laugh:

[custom98pro]

A good idea too do is to shoot were the player was before (but you know they moved on) This will make them think that they can move more freely cuz they are not as noticed. Once they move to get around you, light them up like a fireplace!!

[super_stud2001]

The thing that works well for me in the woods, becuase i am an extremely aggressive player is to run laterally to one end of the feild as fast as i can right when the game starts, then if no is there yet to shoot at me i continue to push my way around playing the line until i can locate most of the players, if possible i surprise them with a burst of 50 balls and either hit them or scare them into running into my team which one or two of the guys where moving up the oppisite end while the rest stay in the middle and shoot and draw fire, this works the best on feilds that are square but it works good on any feild, you will really be surprised, the guys that go to each end must be the 'better guys' on the team, experiance, stealthyness and speed (both of gun and player) should be acounted for, like anything it works best when the two 'runners' aviod being seen but that can be tricky so have the guys that hold the middle up run up a little and draw fire or at least keep their guys accupied, speed to this is key as soon as the game starts RUN like heck to the end this will make oppents (if they do see you) wunder but if your middle guys are any good they will stay occupied, and for the guy who goes to the back: put out mega paint, dry fire, make believe some one else is with you, continually look off your side and make hand gestures and motions and make it seem like there is more than 1 guy there, so even if you don't hit anyone you will scare them to front (right into the ambush). this works well for me and my woods team and if you have any questions super_stud2001@hotmail.com

[Chris_2]

My friend Aaron taught me to be where they least expect you. Sniper from trees or bushes. Hide in piles of leaves and when thye come, blast their asses. I like camouflage and then shooting from a distance, like thirty to forty yards. I can usuall hit them with two shots or better.

[Magnus55]

Crawling is often an overlooked strategy, literally. No one really expects an opponent coming from that low to the ground, and most opponents don't look for crawlers either. Although you have to sacrifice mobility and agility for concealment, it is a pretty good trade off considering that you can move around almost unseen.

[Jackel]

I personally like going out and penetrating enemy lines and causing some havoc. Or, getting up real close and asking the other player if they want to surrender. That is really funny. But also, overall, try to ambush. Like at night, have one of your point men engage the enemy and draw them in front of your main force. Then you are behind them!

[PAiN]

well
my best tactic ever was when we were playing center flag in the indoor field
i ran from my corner by the wall around the whole field and then from the back picked off 5 out of 7 players including a guy witha mag, a guy with prianha sts g3, and one more guy with i think spyder shutter :)

[Russian Guy]

In speedball I give (fake) commands very loudly to my teammates who know i am bluffing. I say things like "You go right on three while you go left. ONE!, TWO!,THREE!!" no one goes but the other team shoot like crazy and gives up thier position. in capture the flag games like that I do that then I dry fire with my gun upside-down so no one pops up while my team mate gets the flag. Also when you run I rarely get hit.

[Paint Bulley]

IT may sound stupid but when needed, leave your gun.

If you need to move quickly over or under something and go check out a position, and you know that somebody knows you are there. It is easier to get up (or under) something and run fast, then slide down with out a gun. then you can try to sneak back.

example:

I was playing this game where there is a guy up in a tree with a hopper. and two on the ground with 4 balls.
well I had to get up a 5' ridge, run to a tree and slide down. well it took two hands to get up the ridge, so I put my gun down. jumped up charged the tree and slid down (while getting shot at).
I then found out how good of a shot both I and the guy in the tree had on each other, so I moved back into the brush, and had my partner who was out of ammo sneak back another way and get my gun.

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Also, when you already know where somebody is but they don't know where you are. If you have camo. Sit out in the complete open with a perfect shot. instead of perfectly hidden with a OK shot. It is reall cool. I was getting hunted. and I sat in front of like 4 or 5 trees not behind them. I had an awesome shot. but they got away (darn)

[frenchtoastdude]

BRIGHT COLORS... the other team focuses on you and plus they concentrate on your colors. Then your teammates move in for the kill.

[jgoutz]

back in the old days (READ SPLATMASTERS AND NIGHTMARES) i used to play in full camo, with a guilly suit and a steel pot. i would find some pretty obvious cover next to a trail behind a log or big rock and put the steel pot on a stick so that it just barely showed . then i would crawl out about 20-30 yards and pull my guilly suit up over my head, just looked like a pile of leaves. and wait. usually you would get 3-4 people walking down the trail that would freeze when they saw that pot. as soon as they stopped, take 1 out with 1 shot, the rest would start firing at the log or rock which would allow you to get 1-2 more before they could figure out where the shots were coming from. i have even had people walk by so close that i hand tagged them with a ball from the chamber.



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[Paint Bulley]

The rebel charge is also a whole lot of fun no matter how suicidal it is.

But to make it a true charge you must scream. ( I usually forget the scream, when I charge)

It is just so much fun. And if someone is in the open and has you pinned behind cover and you pop out and charge, it is even better, cuz nobody will expect it, and if you are good enough and move quick enough you can take them out withut getting taken out. Also seeinf someone run away or having someone say
"I wasn't expecting that"
or
"what were you thinking, I was about to dive for cover when I saw you charging me"
or the best site is when there are two and one leaves the other for dead.

It is just so much fun :) :) :)

[Gryffin]

My favorite tactic is the plain old sneak toward the enemy. Right off the bat grab another experienced player and go directly towards the enemy. The point of the second player is he/she follows behind you(communicating in hand signals only) so if you get shot by walking in to them, he/she can get ready to take them out. Most likely the other team would have the same plan(maybe even the same route) so take all the time you need. Once you get close to the concentration of them pass them by about 15 yards and sneak in, I like to go for surrenders but most of the time it ends up that I mark a few guys and get shot, then the other guy stays back and picks them off as they go looking for more.
Sometimes I just snipe (pick them off from a concealed locale) and sometimes I just follow someone elses plan.

[PartsMart]

Paintball is all about angles, rarely do people get out because another person is accurate, they get out because the other person has a better angle.
1.) If your being attacked and someone has a better angle on you, move!
2.) If your getting surround by two people, pull back so u can see them both without moving ur head, if u cant see them both in the same look, then move back so they're both coming straight for you.
3.) Don't let anyone get these angles on you, place a well hidden sniper on each of ur flanks to keep people from coming beside you.
4.) Have a huge force go through one flank so you can get behind ur opponent


Best strat alive, Works with any # of people above 4.

Most teams will have a line without about equal spacing in between all their guys, find a good position, a steep hill or such, place 2/5 of ur guys on the hill. Then send ur 3/5 to a flank, and have them push and literally massacre that flank. Although the 2/5 guys on the hill will be having a hard time, they should be able to hold if they have any skill. Once you 3/5 have broken through the enemy line its a piece of cake, have them goo way back behind the enemy so they're unable to retreat, and then just pinch the enemy in like a sandwhich.

[recballer]

its fun to wear a decently bright shirt and hang it up on a tree at about your height. keep an eye on it and wait for an idiot to shoot at it and give up his position...stay hidden ....he WILL try to move closer, then youve got it made, take time to think about the situation...youve got an idiot shooting at a tree and he has no clue that its not you let alone your watching him. Then light him up of course.:laugh:

[ChrisEvans]

Well, you said it all my friend. Paintball is sort of like soccer, you have to "cut the angles" Whenever we start off playing , I always tell whoever is on my team that we need to use the right angles in order to get the enemy. I usually have one player sitting in a bunker giving me some cover fire, and I go for the flank. I am a pretty aggresive player, I love being the "Flanker" I love to see the look of the other person's face when I sneak behind enemy lines too see 2 people crouched in a bunker shooting at my decoy teamate; while hes just Shooting paint every couple of seconds just to keep them down, I sneak around and usually kill whoever is in that bunker. Usually with just one shot. But yes paintball is mostly angles. If someone is behind a tree, Don't waste paint trying to shoot them from infront of them. Get a teamate to flank them while you give cover, or Visa Versa. It works almost everytime, and usually you can get the enemy to surreneder (which sometimes ticks me off because I dont really get a kill) but in the long run a surrender is better than shooting the other person, because A) It is quieter and B) You leave that little bit of questioning in the enemy, leaving the enemy thinking "man if I hadn't of surrendered I wonder what would have happened."

Chris

[Ebonclaw]

Out of air. Out of paint. Bunker the guy and yell "Do ya surrender?!" 2 out of 3 times you get a yes.

[ChrisEvans]

Well Sunday, I was the flanker, and My friend was giving me cover, he runs out of paint. But he kept in position and kept shooting air. The enemy was fooled for a while but they caught on. The one enemy that I was trying to Flank, I successfully flanked them because they were distracted by my teamate who was shooting air. I never surrender if im out of paint (unless I am the last one left.) because you cant do anything. BUT if we are playing Capture the Flag , I wont surrender, I will charge the flag. If im going down, im going down in a blaze of glory.:D

[Toolfreak387]

go where your enemy doesnt want to go...like when im playin i know my friends dont like to go through thick brush or thorny terrain...so i wear long pants and long sleeves and sneak right up to them...works pretty good!:D

[Crusher95348]

This is an invaluable tactic when you're a front player. You'll want to be able to get into your bunker, pop out, shoot 2-3 shots, and get back in before they even start firing on you. Adjust your aim while you're in the bunker. Look to see where your shots went and adjust it in the bunker. If you use this you'll be able to get that key elimination for your team.!:eek:

[FalconMan]

Here is a tatic you can only do once on the field that day.... Walk down the center while you have people run up as far as the can while you distract them. People are stunned by this and it takes them a while to start shooting at the guy

[sferencz]

Ok has anyone tried this? pretend you got shot in the neck, and pretend you cant breathe . Lie down and hold your throat with one hand and wheeeeez a whole bunch (DO NOT LET GO OF YOUR NECK NO MATTER WHAT!! this is a common mistake that can get you out!) now with the other hand hold onto your gun. when they come to help shoot them. it works almost 100 percent of the time

[Magnus55]

Thats not such a good tactic. What happens when someone is seriously injured and they get lit up because the other players thought they were bluffing? Or what happens if they stop the game because of you? Or what happens if people take off their masks to check up on you and then a stray paintball from your gun hits them in the face? :finger:

[sferencz]

ok i cant even go throught with that... That was just the dumbest possible thing anyone could have ever said or actually though! Pretend your dying!!!! what the heck, i just had a team mate over and also another kid i play with and thought it was funny. funny thing is, with all the people in the world, someone has actually done that.

[TheZephyr]

I Laughed. Snap shooting is the quintessential skill for the front player. The key to snap shooting is getting your form right, even if you're doing everything right, and have bad form, then **** all, you're gonna get lit up next time you have to shoot it out with someone. When you want a quick look at the field, tuck in, lay parrellel to the ground and stick your head ou the bottom of the bunker. Most of the time, even if a player is ready to shoot you, he'll shoot over you, and by the time his aim is adjusted, you're safe and sound in your bunker and you've already seen what you wanted to.

[Freak 5150]

This is a tactic that takes balls, and usually only on woods fields. Pretend that you have been shot, but do not raise your hand or hold up your gun or anything else that says you're out. Just walk through the field with your gun down. People will think that you're out and you can walk around freelly. It works in senarios multiple times, but other places it may only work once a day.

Also when you're stuck behind a bunker and some one is shooting at your bunker, the best thing to do is just run. Run like crazy and don't look back, zig zag and whatever else.

And for the speed ball players, when the wistle blows, don't just concentrate on getting to your bunker, but look and watch where your opponents are going at the same time. It will pay off quickly, because most likely they weren't watching you.

[sferencz]

Ok here are some tactics i used to get a bit better when i wanted to form a team. I still use some of these...

1) Snapshooting - This is simple, set up a 2 liter bottle like 25-35 feet away from a bunker your going to be behind. Now go behind that bunker, and pop up for only a split second, and shoot at the target. getting up, aiming, shooting, and getting back down should only take 1 second tops. fill your hopper up and do this the 1st time you practice this, then do it every say with liek 50 balls, after one month in traning you will seriously be able to pop-up and shoot the bottle from 50 feet away like 4/5 times.

2) Snapshot/Bunker Rotation - Practice taking a snapshot and running to the next bunkr and shooting the same target. This is a good skill because when you shoot that snap shot, your opponent will duck, then with you at a new bunker, they wont see you and you can take them out alot easier.

3) Base choices - Find a good bunker that is protected from 360 degrees, that you can take some good shots at. Its good to find a bunker that covers a place where alot of people travel. If no one travels it change spots. If you play the same woods its a good idea to find a good bunker thats in the middle of the field, when the whistle blws run there as fast as you can and take cover. When the enemy is moving forward they wont expect you to be that far forward and you can have a good advantage on them.

4) Listen Up - When your having a strong fire fight with some one and going thru alot of paint, play the defense a bit and let them spray alot of paint, when you hear the gun have a different noise when it shoots, a bit louder and snappier, that means they have no ball sin thei rhopper, take advantage of your opportunity and run forward and attack. This is how alot of people have been bunkered by me=)

5) Know When to Shoot - ok alot of people play this trick on newbies because alot of newbies fall for it. If you hear a shot come form a direction, dont blindly shoot back and give your position. I use this on newbies alot, if i shoot, they think i am near them and shooting at them, they inturn, shoot in my direction and tell me exactly where they are. All i have to do is have a team mate stay where i was and shoot every so often, and my sneek behind them and take em out. ONLY SHOOT IF YOU HAVE A GOOD SHOT!

6) Timing - If you playing speedball, or just are in the woods behind 2 trees or bunkers haing a fire fight, listen to the pattern of the enemies fire. If you notice they shoot every 3 seconds or what not, let them shoot, get up, aim, and shoot on 2 and a half. they will pop up and get nailed.

7) Communication - COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR TEAM! if your on a team make codes or what ever so everyone know shwats going on. Its easy, if your on a 150 by 100 foot spedball course, make it into a grid. Memorize it as this, think of it liek battleship. they are at sector 14-5. Whats that mean? they are 140 feet away from the start, and 50 feet to the side. it sounds complicated but if you work this out and quiz eachother you can tell eachother exactly where the enemy is on a speedball arena. If you cant get to them your team mate can. Also if your going to pop up and shoot on 3, dont call out to your team mate "shoot on 3" or "cover me on 3". Instead say "i need cover on 5" start counting and run on 2, allow your team to use a certain # that you all know is the real #, if you say your getting up on 3, the enemy is going to shoot on 3.

8) Squeegie trick - go behind a bunker when some one is shooting at you, pull yoru squeegie out andput the bottem end above the bunker and move it around a bit liek your fixing yur barrel. The enemy will normally take advantage of this and try to bunker you, but secretly you are waiting and you can reverse bunker them!

9) Empty trick - Go behind a bunker and take a bunch of shots at the enemy. Then they will probably duck, when they duck turn your gun sideways while still shooting, they will hear instead of "thus thus thus" on the bunker, a cracking noise of a gun with no ammo. Duck behing your bunker and they wil come trying to waste you, instead you waste them=)

thats it for now, i have to goto sleep, i hope this actually helps some one.

[HawaiianPenguin]

those tactics are awsome :)

[Darthmal2086]

Simple, finde sombody your really good with.
I know a kid, me and him have won 2 vs 5
2vs4 and lots of games just us and other against other teams.


Thats the most basic and affective strategy, IF your playing backyard like me! then get a person with a good shot pump, and a person with a decent shot semi, and group them together, the semi up fromt and the pump, ohh, 20 yards further back. The pump snipes, works well, trust me, you just gatta have a freind using semi who knows how to stay alive, or else Mr. Sniper go bye bye , by mr. Autococker or Tippman.


I also suggest that the sniper be off to the side, and behind, alowing the semi to pick off anybody who charges a not so fast shooting sniper. Another Quility aboute playing SIde by side instead of in rows, is when the person hiding behind a pillar Exedera... Will not realize what is a good positoin to kill ur semi auto freinds might not be as good as he thinks, you might have a side veiw and can snipe somthing vulnerable, like a butt (= arm, or "Foot in most cases".


There is also a sacrifice flank. (get two guys to come up behind him, even with a rapid fire he can only shoot ONE, if you are widly spread apart. One has to make it through and proclaim victory. WARNING: dont try this if there is more than 1 person left on the aposing team. "dont waste players (="


Last but not least, the BEST tactic to win. Dont be afraid to get hit. No i dont mean give yourself voulnerable. i mean hellp your freinds out, even if what they do seems likely sombodys ganna get shot. You need teamwork, and strategy. Edurance, skills, ANd speed ( I gain my speed by wearing SOCCER CLEATS wile playing)

Seyah!

[Skizothymic]

i think this is muckrakers trick.


You shoot at their bunker a couple times to get their head down, then you go running at it while shooting and when you get to it just run beside and shoot them. i've seen it a lot of times and the people usually just keep on running. the guy behind the bunker has no clue what you're doing because he just hears the balls hitting the edge of the bunker.

[Murph1]

And I'm not giving it to you punks


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[Ded]

i was taught this tactic at a recent big game. it's like a dead man's walk but totally legal. get one guy who is out of paint or something to actually call himself out and hold his gun up. you walk behind him with your gun down and NEVER say your out or make any impressions that you are. the other team will ALWAYS assume that you are out rather than shoot at you and risk getting sent off by a ref. when you get close enough to the other teams line just casually raise your gun and bunker the closest guy. get behind his bunker and shoot as many unsuspecting players close by as possible. then have it prearranged for your team to lead a charge as soon as this happens. if you don't get shot you can join in the major push but if you do get shot you've already completely chnged the course of the game. now, your team has the advantage. it may seem a little sneaky but it works 9 out of ten times. use it in big games and walk ons but in tournaments i wouldn't reccomend it. there's too much at stake to pull something that sneaky there.

[xXAFireInsideXx]

My opinion, the best two tactics are----
1. either: be aggressive; push as far forward as you can running,screaming, and shooting like crazy.
2:or- (exact opposite) be sneaky and stealthy, move around the whole game as quietly an sneaky as you can so nobody knows you're there,...until they are tagged by you. :P :cool:

[Crusher95348]

My subject says it all!

[Twisted Angel]

if you back off of your bunker, you can get better use out of the space provided.

[Squidboy]

I will start off with a few stealth tactics.
The first and foremost thing to remember is that colors and noise atract attention. If you are playing on a forest field that is mostly brown, wear brownish clothing or desert camo. If it is more green, wear greenish clothing or camo. That takes care of the color factor. If you want to be quiet while moving in a forest or brush area you have to do a special type of walk. You walk very slow. You step down with your heel and roll your foot along the outer edge until your toe hits the ground and you put our foot the rest of the way down. This directs any sound made by your step into the shoe sole, into the ground or out the side close to the ground. If you don't want to be seen in an open field, lowcawl. get on your belly, put your gun in the crook of your arm and use your elbows and toes to propel yourself forward. It may be slower than a low walk, but believe me, you can move like lightning when high on adredalin, or scared.

Next I will tell you what I do to eliminate people.
I use a combinaion of sneaking and kamikaze tactics in conjunction with my silencer. I sneak when I don't know where the enemy is, when I see one (or many) in a bunker(s) I will snipe them. After I am done sniping or they start to run, or they dig in, I go kamikaze on them. I jump up from my cover and charge their asses. The people I play with aren't very good so they are all huddled up against the side of the bunker. I go around one side and light them up. I also once hurdled the bunker and peged him in the air ala Matrix, that was absolutely awesome and it scared the crap out of the guy.

The Blaze of Glory
Fire as fast as possible at anything not wearing your colors, scream and charge viking style, try and pull the flag. Should you run out of ammo while this is going on, keep screaming and pull the flag. Boiled down the Blaze of Glory is to take out as many people as possible with you while trying to pull the flag and possibly winning the game.

Some just general tips are as follows.
1)Sneak for as long as possible
2)Once discovered, go terminator
3)If not discovered after a while, go terminator
4)Do the absolutely unthinkable, surprise your foe
5)If you need to retreat, do so while firing
6)If you are outnumbered, retreat, not firing and find concealment QUICK
7)If you are going to be eliminated do so in a blaze of glory
8)Play with people that are better than you, it causes you to get better (pain is a great learning enhancement)

Hope this helps.

[SpYdeR-GuY]

Here is a tatic you can only do once on the field that day.... Walk down the center while you have people run up as far as the can while you distract them. People are stunned by this and it takes them a while to start shooting at the guy

If I see someone walking down the field and they are not on my team. I will shoot them immeadiately> NOt a flame.

[Minority]

if you can get like 8 people to rush when you say RARRRRR it scares people, my favorite strategy is stand by a wall, and tape as a back

WARNING WEAR ELBOW PADS
if you see enemy, just fall back and land on elbow pads and aim quick.

Once you do it enough, you get the hang of it.

Very good strategy

smaller target = good right?

[tippymann]

i haven't been playing long, only about 5 times, 3 of which are just my friend's commonground woods. one thing i learned was that you should never stay in a certain place for an extended period of time. EXAMPLE: i was crawling alongside a slope and was coming up on an enemy, and was behind a tree trying to think things out. i got pinned down by him and his team-mate and ended up getting shot in the neck from 20 feet. it sucked, and i know i should always get somewhere safe to think things out. and flanking works, too. use that a lot.

[UTLadiesMan]

In a one on one, where the opponent was in the center, and I was on his left in front. um, ok, diagram.


...........him
..........====


====...........====
fake................me

I yelled out to my left, "John! I'll hold him down, you flank left!!"
Then I started laying paint on his bunker, he pulled in really close and turned around to watch his right side. Then I ran straight up, easiest out all day.

[^Psycho^Skillz^]

Hey I was just reading a post about a guy pulling a dead mans walk further down and that reminded me of a move I pulled a long while ago. Just wondering whether you guys think this is as "cheap" as a dead mans walk or not.

Personally, I find this one to be slightly fairer since it is pretty hard to pull off without being shot, especially if u stand out (like I do :P) or play with regulars hwo know you.


Well anyway, we were playing a semi-speedball type field and I kamikazed myself up to the middle right at the beginning like always. Then, I turned around running backwards and firign at my own team (my friend already knew my plan and was purposely hiding behind an easily observable bunker) I ran backwards to the OTHER teams front line (now facing my own team). I continued moving backwards until I was at the back end of the opposing team, where I easily took them all out in the back...they all thought I was on their team


I've tried that again a few times hasnt worked too well as I'm usually shot by friends who know me or newbies that cant tell the difference :P

What do u guys think of a move like that if someone pulls it successfully? Cheap or tactical?

[paintballerwgp]

:atten: :atten: A good thing to do is to stay low and stay small be quiet when u walk heel to toe trember that dont just look in on direction either look all around you especially if you have never played in theses kinda areas i i learned theses from a navy seal thats still standing hear and i use these things. try them and good luck
C.M.
p.s. dont let big guns fool you never underestimate someone now mattter how old they are but don let ne one scare you

[pbgod68cal]

my best tactic is what i call the YMCA i do it almost every time i play well not every individual game but every time i go. well what i do is when they cant hit me and im running low on paint and i dont wanna waste any more till there low to is i get a nice spot were they can se me but cant hit me cuz thers mucho trees or bunkers in the way that will stop most the balls. i start singing and doing the YMCA dance or what ever and they always unload on me and get mad and yell and then when im done or tired i make a dead sprint for the fartest up tree or bunker and get mad close to them and reek havoc it works every time iv never been hit doing it i also have the ginger bread man to but thats easy i just never stop running and yelling u cant hit the gingr bread man and they shoot all the paint at me and get frustrated and dont hit nothin cuz i put a line of trees between me and them and not much gets threw and im hella fast.

ok those were the dumb im on a caffine high tactics bu my serious moves are just pic a side of the feildandon the brk kee moving till thegames over or your behind them when u gt to a bunker that u would normally stop at and lay down fire just stop for a split secound ly down some fire for your self and then gt up and run some more. i works grea in the woods ido it alot it will break them down on a flank and get them all worried and frantic. its great to do to a team of newbies that fall back as soon as u push its like a free ride to the flag when your up agenst newbies

[Killer Kat]

I love to have another quick trigger right next to me. Me shooting to one side and my partner to the other. And just spray the daylights outta the bunkers and walk right up to them!

[pbgod68cal]

ya kat u always do do that bu iv only been with u once or twice i dont think were ever on the same team cuz ofthe wine boxes at whipples that say u cant have 2 pl with fass guns on the same team or let the tourney team be together or all te cockers together god that anoying im putiing that in the annoying thread haha

[painteater.com]

just lay down at one corner of the field and cumpletely splat anyone that gets within 30 feet of you!!!!!. or you can be super duper aggresive, and bum rush like a crack addict witha screw driver.

[Yen]

When playing speed ball against someone who is keeping you behind that bunker, put your head as low too the ground as possible (i put it right on the dirt) and stick my head out. They will never expect your head to come out down that low, even if they see you they will have to reajust thier aim to hit you giving plenty of time to get back into cover, works wonders even against torney guys.
If your team is getting slaughtered and you know you are like the last one left, get up and move in a cercular motion around your bunker shooting like a madman. I got 4 eliminations this way. (It didn't win the game but it felt good:D ) Try them.

[IromKnight]

what i do if ur pinned down behind a tree or something (i only play woodball cuz i hate pay-per-play) take off your gloves or your hat or something and throw it to the left of your cover. wait a split second and then peak around to the right and pick him off. make sure the person who has you pinned is somewhat close, on the order of 30 ft. if the person is more than 100 ft away he'll just watch the gloves go by and peg you. otherwise this works every time!:cool:

[Paint Bulley]

.......................YOU........................ ........



.......-------...............................................

......opponent.................................... .....
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.................................................. .opponent.......


all people are behind bunkers.... what would you do??

those lines are unused bunkers...

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Note if you go after the guy on the left you are wide open for the guy on the right

[Paintsmoke]

i usually do something that works 50/50

Shoot a lot blind fire, when i hear no return shots i run out and try to find a new bunker. Repeat until im as close as possible. Then i do a kamikaze mass-bunker attempt

[Henry_the_Lion5]

THIS APPLIES TO ALL TYPES OF PAINTBALL GAMES!!!!

In any game GET GOOD FEILD POSITIONS! Move lots, Suround your enemy, Its VERY hard to overcome an enemy shooting from all fronts. Not in front but left, right and behind. I know for a fact.

[CoolPiranhaGuy]

Ok I dont like moving around in big groups just groups of 1 or 2. but when im alone [most of the time i am] i run down the tape and get real close to the enemy then lite em up. the down side is i hate communicating with my team so they hardly no were i am and sometimes i get shot at by them. When i do move with another person its usually covering r flanks. so what i do is get an older an taller guy. im like 1 of the younger guys an im only like 4ft 11in an tell him 2 act like there is 5 or so of us. example he goes u go ova there u over there there an u over there an stuff like that it makes them think they r outnumbered.

[Devastator]

I have an extra damaged mask I couldn't use, so I just ge that, put it near a trail, a bunch of leaves, put an old cassate player that plays "eye of the tiger" loud enough that can hear it but muffled so it doesn't seem to obvious, and just hide close to it, but very well, and if ya' can;t hide well, go a bit aways. Works most of the time. Funny too, ya' should put it in the mask, and walk in with it on your belt, usually works once, then they know its fake the next game.

[Crash Danger]

Originally posted by Devastator
I have an extra damaged mask I couldn't use, so I just ge that, put it near a trail, a bunch of leaves, put an old cassate player that plays "eye of the tiger" loud enough that can hear it but muffled so it doesn't seem to obvious, and just hide close to it, but very well, and if ya' can;t hide well, go a bit aways. Works most of the time. Funny too, ya' should put it in the mask, and walk in with it on your belt, usually works once, then they know its fake the next game.

ROFL

"Eye of the Tiger" hahaha

[Ded]

Originally posted by ^Psycho^Skillz^
Hey I was just reading a post about a guy pulling a dead mans walk further down and that reminded me of a move I pulled a long while ago. Just wondering whether you guys think this is as "cheap" as a dead mans walk or not.

Personally, I find this one to be slightly fairer since it is pretty hard to pull off without being shot, especially if u stand out (like I do :P) or play with regulars hwo know you.


Well anyway, we were playing a semi-speedball type field and I kamikazed myself up to the middle right at the beginning like always. Then, I turned around running backwards and firign at my own team (my friend already knew my plan and was purposely hiding behind an easily observable bunker) I ran backwards to the OTHER teams front line (now facing my own team). I continued moving backwards until I was at the back end of the opposing team, where I easily took them all out in the back...they all thought I was on their team


I've tried that again a few times hasnt worked too well as I'm usually shot by friends who know me or newbies that cant tell the difference :P

What do u guys think of a move like that if someone pulls it successfully? Cheap or tactical?


i don't think it's cheap at all, i also don't think i legally performed dead man's walk is cheap either, i think they ar eboth funny as hell though and excellent strategies to use in rec games but don't pull anything sneaky like that in a tournament because then it is pretty cheap, there's too much on the line in tourneys to be a sneaky little *******.

[Tate]

My favorite tactic.. well it wasnt exactly a tactic.. but it worked nicely.. i was pinned down behind a tree by one of my friends.. he was just standing up shooting whenever i moved to either side.. (we were the only ones left) so i used that 2 my advantage.. i popped out one side real quick snapped off a shot then rolled to the other side and dropped to one knee.. he didnt have enough time to react cuz he thought i was on the other side and i shot him twice in the chest.. uh oh did my tippy just beat an angel?? hmm who just wasted $900?

[sean3787]

The best tactic i picked up, was get pods or something non-valuable u have, liek a hopper or pod, Find a spot where no one can see u from anyway. Throw a pod or hopper or what ever ur using in path u think ur enemy will be coming, When they walk toward the object, theyll go "awesome a So and SO" adn when they bend down to pick it up, BBBAAAMMM, you shot like hell!!!!

[namida]

what i did is pray!!right before a huge tournament i prayed and i placed 2nd!!well another good tactic i found is when you run zig zag!!!and if you can do fullauto fire,godfather their asses!!***hey wont wanna face you again if you give them killer bruises and a headache!!be dustructive as possible!!seriously!!i was playing at a killer night pond and we had a canoe.So we put the canoe upside down in the water and held our guns over water under the canoe.Dont do this with a lectro!!!get the piss shocked outta yah and screw up ur gun if you actedentally go under water!!!and have someone with no gun to push the canoe over and just blast the chit outta the enemy!

[halB]

in a fire fight a cop will make cover out of the ground by laying on their stomachs and shooting from there. it prevents a much smaller target and while u sacrifice mobility you are incredibly hard to hit, so next time u think theres no cover, use the ground.

[Dyesupporter]

I play speedball (yes speedball) and my best tactic is to take chances, dont be conservitave, take those risks, bunker or get bunkerd, one time i was in a v shaped duck bunker (meening i had to crouch) and there were 2 people in a lay down about 5 feet away (they werent on my team) and then 2 others sneeking up behind me for a bunker move. So at this time hope is lost right? no because they wernt expecting the most aggresive move i have ever maid. I snap shoted enough at the 2 in the laydown so they would duck back into the bunker, so they think its safe to look back up and at this time i was bunkering them, the raised there markers and left the feild. I then ran all the way across the feild, bobbing and weeving long enough that the 2 other players had to reload, so i bunkerd them. Tada game won, and i took a chance with another huge benafit. a scout was watching me do this and i ended up on a team. :laugh:

[Squidboy]

My favorite tactic is to use shock tactics.

Step 1: When the whistle goes, take one teammate (a fast runner) and RUN LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL toward the enemy, firing like a banshee. The ones who don't run lay cover fire LOTS OF IT!

Step 2: KEEP FIRING! KEEP RUNNING from bunker to bunker, advancing always, only retreat if it will draw someone out.

Step 3: BUNKER AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE! Run as fast as you can, firing all the time at the enemy. Zig Zag as you run. Volume of fire is the name of the game. The enemy even sneezes out of a bunker, lay into him. When you get behind them, shoot them. They will have to have their attention in three places at once, on you and on your teammate, who is using the same tactics, and your covering fire.

Step 4: PULL THE FLAG AND RUN AS FAST AS IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE! Keep bunkers between you and the enemy at all times. NEVER STOP! EVER!

The cover fire should be volumous enough to keep the enemy's heads down. You running in zig zag fashion should keep you from being hit. When you pull the flag, run to another teammate, hand the flag to him if it is legal. If it is legal, start dumping fire in the enemy direction. If it is not legal to hand off the flag, your teammate is a human shield for a little while.

[IRPaintballer]

This is my version of the dead man's walk, and like the others it only works once. On most fields one team walks to the far side and one team stays close to the exit. if you are the team on the far side, this will work. If not, don't try it.

When the game starts and you start walking to your base/flagbay/home/whatever, dont take out your barrel plug/condom. Hide where no one can see you and jsut sit tight for a few minutes. When no one is looking stand up and start walking to the enemy base (with your barrel plug still in) once you reach the exit/enemy base, take off your barrel plug and lay down some massive paint. It is fun as hell to do this, especially when playing against newbies cuz they are all back in their bases and are so close you can take them all in a metter of seconds.

[Squidboy]

My best center flag tactic ever.

If playing two on your team, one is back, one is forward
If playing three, two are back, one is forward
" " five, three " ", two are "
" " seven, four " ", three " "
" " ten, six " ", four " "
follow this pattern to infinity

Have the back men DUMP PAINT at the whistle and try to keep the other team in a couple bunkers and eliminate them by VOF and ROF. The forwards move quickly forward to pull the flag and find bunkers to start dumping from. Back men move up, still firing until at front players. Front players move forward and bunker people and get the hang.

Great if everyone has alot of paint, or you want to waist the rest of your paint (why? I don't know)

[The Sniper]

I say take shots when u can hit the guy or when u have to cover someone and don't be afraid to get hit so do somethin stupid cause sometimes it work espically if u are a newbie.

[Replicator11]

My most favorite Tactic is to Shoot like crazy @ their bunker while moving quickly to another bunker then while they pop up to wait to shoot you then play tight, peer around a corner and Smack!

[The Sniper]

I also like the waiting game. Don't try on some adults, they prob. can wait longer. If a enemy is hiding in a bunker just him/her pinned down until you can move into a position where they won't see you and you can shoot them and wait until u have a perfect shot then unload 3 shots.

[Skurge_112]

when you are play againts a large group of newbies who are all hiding behind the same bunker call out GERNADE!!!!!!! and they will run in every direction like wild banshees

[culkid]

lol thats funny skurge

[AznPballr]

stay on the edges of the field, this way u'l have one less side to worry about.

never have several ppl in the same bunker at once. all it does is limit you movement and get more attention.

plan something! before you play examine the field and discuss it with your teammates instead of just winging it. in many cases this makes a HUGE difference.

learn to shoot with your off-hand.

get in the front! Just remember, the opponents being in range to shoot you isn't a bad thing... it just means you get to shoot them, too!

have fun!:crazy:

[MeGotzGriffin]

1. Always check your ammo (fill your hopper), barrel (squeegee if necessary), and if youre cocked when youre not "engaged" in a firefight...oh yeah make sure youre safety is off too!

2. Learn and know where youre teammates are and where the opponents are...

3. Watch the ambushes...theyll always happen when you least expect it...

4. Learn how to get shot...not shoot...but get shot

5. And last but not least...NEVER underestimate you opponent...NEVER...

[CrazyB]

my tactic consist of pointing the long tube thing at whatever needs to be shoot and pulling the trigger a lot. Seems to work so far

[TheZephyr]

LONGEST SIGNATURE IN ALL THE LAND AND THERES NOTHI

Maybe not us, but one of the mods... :D

[Skurge_112]

lol that dont care :paranoid: or at least i hope they dont...

[Novocain]

I like taking my aftermarket barrels off so they think u have a stock, then screw it on when they are out of sight, and they get sloppy. Screw it off after ya get them to.
Charging is good
Crawling is good
Grenades are good
Drawing attention is good
Staying with a teamate is good
Flanks are good
Ambushes are Great

O yea Paintballs help too, guess they are good

Get someone to take off there camo (draws attention) and place them in the middle. Put people to the sides and another person to be seen, what for them to attack the group drawing attention, until they are close. Then shoot them. Make them get cocky and over estimate you somehow, when they get sloppy they die.
I used everyonee of these today through 2 hours of paintball in the woods with 12 people. I came out with 10 kills, and 1 nasty shot someone landed on my mask, that went in my mouth.

[ihatespyders]

Just be sneaky shoot at them and move chill there for a while move when they get down just wait to shoot him then.

It might not be the smartest thing but I usually run up to the 50 even when i had my spyder. No one expects it on big recball. Where I play at there are like no rentals at all but there are a lot of Angels, impulses.... You are bound to get shot if you sprint like hell. Last time i did this i got shot once in my right hand and once in left but they bounced. I was in shock.

[dark-wanderer-x]

now i didn't have a whole lotta time to read everyone's tactics and i bet someone already said this but here we go. i play one on one alot with my friend becuase he lives next door to me. i made my own field in backyard cuz my parents live on a farm, anyways i shoot a volley of about 10 paintballs at my friend while he is behind the hay, i mean bunker, while he just sits behind it waiting for the paint to stop flying. i run to bunker on the far left/right. while he still thinks i am in het middle i run right past him. it works perfectly for me. the funny thing is it works everytime. as guess u could say he's kinda slow. or the otehr thing i do sometime is move as far to the center i can without him seeing me and just wait for him to run to a bunker on my side and i light him up. hope this works for anyone of u who try it.

[ZERO6]

the best thing to do is run up the side of the feild and shot the oppents

[SpyDR]

adding on to skurge's post. grab a clump of dirt, if possible, and throw it while yelling grenade.

[paintdoger]

a really good tactice is if a player isnt moving from a bunker and keeps poping out then aim ur gun in one position by the bunke then when he pops out in that area uve got him

[Spyderman248]

stick w/ one other person and when you need to change bunkers, have the other one create some cover fire, try to get the enemies stuck in cross fire, stay at the sides of the field and try to out flank your opponents!!
Remember, they are not bullets, be agressive, do not be afraid to get hit, you wont help your team by being a *****

[TippSniper]

"drop your hopper" Do what you have to do to stop the paintballs from going in the marker... It makes a different sound when you run out of paint right? well, do that and yell out something like "aw crap" or some other exploitive and the opposing force will think you ran out. Now start the flow of paint back into the marker... now lite up the poor S.O.Bs as they "walk your way" :devil:

[spyderballa]

Ambush!!!! Sometimes when my team is in deep truoble ill flank the other team and kill em all!

[pbnewb]

satnd there and do nuthing then call urself out

[pbnewb]

have someone ppl run up and ppl covering them so then u all attack

[EvilPopTart]

Be smart and aggressive

[Mr.Incredible]

well....my friends use me as the decoy....i guess thats good

[BlackMagic23]

Where a fluffy pink bunny suit 9 yes it has to be fluffy). Everyone on the other team would be like wtf is that and b4 they start shooting at you, you can get a few of them out. PS. make sure you have a pink mask, gloves, and and gun to match your suit. Good Luck. :crazy:

[Nova Ideal]

Then Again, perhaps not

[spiker_doo]

I know it has already been said but we were playing and i used my flash to engage three people who were all clumped together in some pine trees (idiots) and my team mate crawled through the tall grass all the way around and shot them in the backs....another funny thing was when the same guy set his hat up just over a bunker and all you could see was the hat and while they were unloading on that he snuck around and bunkered the last 3 ppl lol

[Crusher95348]

When you're about to nail the last guy on you and you run up on him and he sees you, start firing back at him and never turn away. they're only paintballs they can't kill you. Always the first person to turn away loses.

[corn_beast]

D-day 2002 was the best
2003 d-day even better

I was on the 1st division the ones that go of the boat.

After we took the beach I head to german bravo base via crawling a long was. till I got to the edge of the base. I waited till a group of 8 were going down the road. I made sure my revvy was on a ripped them up. Then I ran back into deeper woods. were I met up with a member of my home team. We both set up ambushes until a team final came and got us.


18 kills on that round

[The_Crazy_Hobo]

just wanna make a quick point... waaay early on, on the first page, somebody said: "don't be a CAMPER, be a SNIPER!"
now isn't that just a bit of an oxymoron? a sniper finds a good position to sit in, and he sits waiting for ppl to come into his line of sight so he can pick them off.... wouldn't that be what you'd call a camper? get yer terms right!

[The_Crazy_Hobo]

hey man, has anybody ever come up to you, seen how it seems you talk, think and act all the time, maybe looked at your avatar, and said, "you're an idiot!" ?

[paintballjnke44]

I would have to say this worked best have teammates put paint on where the enemy is at while you push up or go for a flank then you can nail the guy it worked realy well

[R.U-A.S.S Rocks]

Run the F**K Up And Shoot Somebody

[hurleypunker_84]

Never pop up in the same position when your behind a bunker, keep nice and tight against the bunker and make sure nothing is exposed.
Never concentrate on just one guy. I almost learned this the hard way, i was shooting at just one guy from just one side of the bunker, as soon as i got him out, i peeked around the other corner of my bunker and a guy had snuck up to the bunker straight across from me, about 7 feet away, as soon as i poked my head around head had his gun pointed right at, i was quick enough to duck back in, peeked up from a different spot of my bunker and took him out.

[Kent007]

When I play, most of the time any more it's just 1 0n 1.
there used to be 8 guys in our group but thay just wont get together any more. Anyway, we (My friend and I) were playing the other sunday afternoon.
>Always know were your opponent is.
It scares people to death when you dont know where the world the guys at and if you have cover from him or not (believe me, i know!)

I always play in the woods, not a woods field, just in the woods around our houses.

If you get behind a good thick tree, crouch. a smaller target is always harder to hit. Stay Low and Keep Tucked In!!
On of the mistakes my buddy made was he [U]stood[U] behind his trees. We played three games and I won them all (Tippmann 98c - vs. - Tippmann 98c) by nailing him square in the gut first game and then gogging him in the mouthpiece in the second game. In the third game he ran out of paint and air at the same time so he surrendered.

Sorry for the story...the moral is ... HIDE!
Dont let them figure out where you are!

Good Snipin'!! :) :D :laugh:

[Super 3]

DUCK WALKING

the painful walk they made you do in PE is back! This works very well in a dense field (as in alot of bunkers), with lots of tall bunkers or ones that you can duck walk around but still remain out of their line of sight. It's faster than crawling and puts you down lower than simpling crouching plus you can drop quickly all the way prone or if your good dive and roll behind a bunker. it hurst like hell but it's worth it to see the look on their face when you shoot them from a bunker they where sure no one was at.

[Morginie]

For outdoor in the woods my fav tactic is to stay away from the experienced guys and hang with the group of newbs who walk up in the middle in a really packed bunch of renters. Anyways I stay a good 50 feet away from them and I am really quite and stealthy. Of course they get lit up by the other newbs coming up the middle. So I simply creep around the other group of newbs and light them all up. And the newbs on my team go and take the flag thinking their rental pump gun gods. For speedball or indoor I think the best tactic is to do the unexpected. Like when your in a bunker and another guy is in a bunker and your like 20 feet away from eacothere. You guys pop up at eachothere and shoot and go back down then pop up again and so on. Well while he pops up and finishes shooting I lay a hailstorm of paint down on his bunker and at the same time I run at it and when I get there I shoot him. They never expect it. And here's a funny story from playing with first time pballers. I'm playing indoor and theres some newbs. Well anyways the reff tells them about mercy and how if your close enough you can mercy a guy and if he doesn't surrender you shoot him. Well theres this newb just shooting and I dive into a bunker that's across from him (it was about 50 feet away from his bunker) this kid sees me and yells MERCY! And he stands up at me from 50 feet away and starts yelling mercy. At which point I get up and lay 20 shots on him. THen this kid has a spasm saying he mercied me! From 50 feet away he couldn't of even shot me because I was behind a bunker. Anyways I had quite a laugh (inside my head) seeing the reff explain it to him.

[Havoc717]

The best advice I can give to new people...(which has probably been said twice already, but maybe I'll get lucky with one of these)

-Don't stay behind one bunker for too long. If you see a good bunker, take it. I usually just fire a few rounds at any bunker that I've seen a person posting on me from, half of the time they don't see my move.

-When you get into a bunker, look everywhere. It's really easy to forget this in the heat of the game, but try to keep this in your head without losing focus. You never know when your opponent has an angle on you. My second time I got a really good person out who made this mistake, he was just crouching, focused on one spot, and I had a perfect shot at him without even moving from the safety of my bunker.

-In 2 vs. 2's, or any match where you and only one person are left, make sure you both move out almost evenly. Don't move up too far ahead of your teammate, and don't fall too far behind, because then they get pinned down, hit, and you're next. You must both move as a team, not two individuals.

-I can't stress this enough, but work all of your bunker. I've seen many people make the mistake of just popping out over the top, or one side of their bunker the entire time they are at that spot. Any good player can take advantage of that in a second. If you aren't that great, don't pop up over the top that much, but don't completely avoid it.

[DeathBringer454]

i wear an old wetsuit i got at a garage sale for $20, i wear it under my clothes and nobody notices, paint bounces off me like crazy at a small distance

[funky monkey 07]

:D

This only works at night but is really cool if they fall for it, the usually do.

Take a sock and stuff somthing kinda heavy in it that u can throw. Make it to be the size of your fist or a grown mans fist. Next time ur playing a 24hr. scenario take with u on the feild at night. When u come up to a building and there r people in there that wont come out get ur group to get cover, and the throw it in there and yell grenade. They will most likely all come running out and then thats when ur teamates start to stich them up, or they will walk out with their hands in the air thinking it was a real paint grenade(depending on weither or not the rules say u have to have paint on u from the nade or if one is thrown, the building is emptyed.)

try it u will be surrprised at how many people fall for it and get shot up.:D

[mrpeanut]

well im a newb, but this tactic seemed to work well for me, I went with a friend and we stuck about a foot to 2 feet apart and moved really fast, whenever something moved we would both fire, thus, shoting more balls. we cleared out an entire trench using this method!

[BoyWithImpulse]

not really my best but just a good tactic in like a 3 on 3 or somethin. Middle man sweet spot, once they slide in make a run,get to the second or third bunker. They then will not know where you are. 1 second 1 snap and they are :pissed:

[jdw_56]

thats a great tactic, it may not seem like much but knowing where the opposition is when they don't is a HUGE advantage. some players will also stay behind cover not watching the field if just a few balls smack their bunker. gret tactics for the simple minded.

[Lipton]

Originally posted by Pookister569
well anyway i would say a good tactic is to do something really crazy, something your opponent won't predict. like running like hell and getting behind them and shooting them up. or just being a sneaky ******* and slowly crawl around a bunker that has a bad guy. :p


i totally agree!:P in speedball i just run up the flank of the course and shoot every1 on their flank! they never expect it 2 happen but it does now!:goody:

[S-Prime]

Its called pistol whipping :cool:

[wgpvertcocker07]

wut i like to do is just hide in one place for the first maybe 3 minutes of the game and then pop up and sahoot the closest person who doesnt even hav time to figure out wut just happened. I know it kinda soinds like a ***** thing to do but it works.

[ZacT26]

Snap!
i got some reading to do forgot about this thread lol!

[namida]

The thing you say doesnt sound *****,its a very good tactic in which jocks call ***** because youre not walkin round getting your *** shot off,you are actually helping the team more than getting your *** shot off....

My 2 cents

[RozeNextDoor]

my tactic thus far is just wait em out... people are impatient they get careless quickly...
I once had a one on one game silent for five minutes... the scariest five minutes of my life...

-Roze

[gangisHANS]

ooooo go for my style, BALLS TO THE WALLS. run full force, and have somewhat good aim. I make a great distraction for my team *me and 2 snipers, I'm bait* well, one time Ran full force down the feild, took on 30+ ppl at once WITH A SIDEKICK SEMI! I have never seen so many people turn and run before, only like 2 people shot at me....I was maybe 20 ft from the flag....with a lil psychotic...mixed in with some planning with your team, you can go really far:D

[MuffinMan14]

run oyur fastest and try to stay low as you can at the same time.
good accuracy.
:)

[gangisHANS]

Wear a shirt that says NOOB on the fron, with a bunch of targets drawn on it, wear bunny ears, ask questions from your teamates really loud like "HOW DO I ATTATCH THIS BOTTLE THING-A-MA-BOBBER??!" "WHAT DOES NOOB MEAN?" or other stupid obvious questions...note tho, you become a target...now make sure you got some people to back you up, you draw fire, and take shots. You're probably gonna get hit, but that's ok...the satisfaction will be yours when they all get lit up by your team, seeing in how they were after that "psycho noob" :laugh: I'll get some more "serious" tactics up here soon..

[SpAz100]

this is only good to use if your in a bunker, and people know you are in there
it's very simple, if they know where you are and firing at you, simply poke your gun out for a second and DON'T FIRE. usually they will fire at you thinking your coming out. do this a few times until they start to catch on and not fire anymore. usually by this time you have found out where they are also, so after they know your messing with them, just pop up and blast the hell out of them. 3 outta 5 times they don't expect it. :D

[APA_Coop]

i find that when im playing rec ball, in full woodland camo and a black tactical vest, laying flat and crawling around works best. my camo makes me blend in, and what doesnt blend evenly gets looked past by the black spot that almosts looks like a torso..... maybe we should get a little closer and investigate.... :D

[Raptorz922]

A very important tip: do the unexpected. Yesterday I decided to go through some stomach deep muddy water to flank the enemy and it got me 12 kills.

[~Chimp]

wave at the opponent..
yes you laugh,,, but it screws with their head.
When you have some distnace.. wave at them from your bunker.. when they go to shoot, duck in.. come out somewhere else.. do it again.. They have no idea wtf is going on. then come out shooting.. they just seem to forget that you actually may have a marker after 3-4 times.

Also.. when behind a tall narrow bunker, wave your left hand out the left side (if you are right handed), and bring your head out the right side shooting one handed to start, and then bring left hand over to steady shots.

They 1st go for the left hand as they see it.. so they are not already aiming at your right side.

[Cx Threepio]

We Usually have the Sniper Sneak into Enemy Lines and Pick off People While Someone Runs in from the front and Shoots like Crazy. 2 People then get as Close as they Can without getting shot to Create A Diversion so the last Person Can get in bck with the Sniper, and the Last Person and the Sniper Take out People from Behind.
It's Nuts, but it Works, Sometimes.

[gffbrl21]

My strategies are to throw a rock to a point where an enemy might be hiding and lure him out into the open. If you see a group of hit people with their hands up walking back to the staging area stand hidden amongst them , not with your hands up, though or you can be called out. REMEMBER: stay low during enemy fire.

[SLlPKNOT]

Kidna like wgpvertcocker07 said. Before you start out ask one or two palyers to stay way back and dont move or shoot much for a long time. Then when the game is down to about 3 players call them out and the other team will never expect it.

And when the whistle blows and you run to a bunker dont stay there run to another oen in the next 10 seconds or so. The other team will be too busy trying to see where all the other players are going they will only get a glipse of you then they will scope out other players. So then your free to run to another bunker before they notice you, but it dosnt last long after about 30-40 seconds the other team will start to scope out particular players instead of jsut watching the whole team.

[clecko54]

-Strong backplayers...people who don't let the other team get a shot off, much the less prevent bunkering
-Strong front players...fast, good snap shots, move at the right time
-Crossfire...better chance of getting good angles, people on the right shoot towards the left, left towards the right.
-Lanes... the bigger they are, the more coverage they should get, especially off the break
-Communication....most important aspect, positions of players, who'se taking fire, where they are, who can get a clean angle of fire.
-eyes....keep 'em peeled, wathc for movement of other tream, and communicate it.

[pbfreak242]

the stupidest thing you can do in paintball is to go onto the field scaredthen youll make stupid mistakes that will cost your team

[Mach]

Paint-Kata. Enough said. :)

[Vectrexx]

Squeegie Trick
While hiding behind a bunker wave your squeegie in the air, to make it seem that you are cleaning your gun. Someone will pick up on that and rush your bunker, and as soon as they arrive you can take them out.

Empty Gun

While hiding fire your gun upside down to change the tone of your shots. An experienced player will think you are out of paint and rush you. By turning your gun upside down no paintballs will feed into the breech and thus you will fire blanks. (also see The Doop)

Deadman's Walk

You are still in the game, start walking around with your gun down out in the open as if you have been eliminated. Then when you reach a great spot... attack! This may not be allowed, and as far as I am concerned unethical, but the sender really wanted me to post it up.

The Doop

Yell out to a friend, "I have no paint" or "I have no air." Some one from the other team will hear you and decide to take advantage. When they do, you are ready to kill.

Lead the Fool

If you see someone hiding behind a bunker shoot the grass to the side in a way that they can see you. They will notice that your shots are off. Yell out, "I got you, I got you." The fool will think your aim is very very off and will come out. This seems as if it won't work, but it really does. Try it out!

Heads Up

If someone is hiding behind a bunker shoot at their bunker in a slow fashion just under where their head has been popping up. Real slow and spoaced out shots. The person hiding will try to time your shots and pop out. and as soon as he does you are so well aimed and ready to eliminate him.

[phillipspyder]

1) take the high ground and snipe.
2) fing a blind corder ( a corner that when passing you can not see around) hide behind it and ambush them. NOTE: makesure you have some minimal covor incase it is an experinced player and thay put ther gun around it and fire blindly like crazy
3) the good old pincer. go in from 2-3 diffrant directions and trap tham.
4) the old fashoned (but great) "kill zone" you know: the one at little big horn (custards last stand) well what you do is find some place (like a trail, valley, pass etc.) and wait. when they pass through blast em'
5) Lone warrior: break up one or two squads of your most skilled players and send tham on single missions.
6) snipe from a protected corner. that way you only have to worry about a small area

[Stealth07]

Best tatic i've ever seen was when are team went into the pond on the property(woodsball) and pulled a rambo on the other team hehe o man those priceless screams of scared the **** out of them o boy

[BlackSabbath]

in speedball i like stay at the quater mark couse i am a back player. you should trie to be behind a cilinder or a tree instead of a wooden bunker. thisa voids getting bunkered:crazy:

[tippmannkid98]

i personally like sniping. i get as far as i can at the start, and then i lay down(usually in a pile of sticks or a bunch of trees and just wait. i have a pretty good ear to here shots. also, i usually have a man on my left or right or both. they give me cover fire and draw attention away from me( if i shoot and miss, they know the general direction which it came from, so the newbies that are in awe of my gun are forced by me to run away from me and draw alot of attention while i sit as still as possible watching the little kids get beat down).
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[penguins_r_kewl]

run up to there bunker when they're not firing, when they pop out of the bunker there already dead.

[p8ntfreak1]

Say one guy is in a bunker across the field and they can see your head sticking out of one end of your bunker, you crouch back in they think your gonna' go to the other side, you dont etc, they get shot out. YYYYAAAAYYYY!!!:laugh:

[pbjwa7989]

THE FAKIE--
when u r fighting with somebody that you want/need to bust the move one, pick the side you want to come out. lets say right side of your bunker. let him know that is the side of the bunker you are going to come out of and dominate(yes, let him know which side you are comming out of). he'll think u suck and that he knows you're going to come at him from that side. when u put him in run out of the side of you bunker, he'll come out on the other side thinking he'll just rail you, but just as he starts to come out that side you switch your gun to that side, still running forward. then (important part!) you mus stop shooting and commit to the opposite side. yeah seems confusing but its right, left, right. you fake right, fake left, commit right. when you stop shooting he'll come out the left side of his bunker trying to find you. by then you should be at his bunker at the right side, where hes not expecting you, and shoot his dumb *** in the back.
if done right it will leave him totally dumbfounded. however this move is very hard to pull off. when i first tried it it never worked and i got my head blown off. but after some practice this move is very effective and will leave you the talk of the feild. the main thing to remember is done give up on it if it doesnt work right away keep tryin

FAKIE RUN THROUGH--
to accomplish this move you will have to have mastered the fakie move listed above. its pretty simple.... after you pull off the fakie you are probabally going to get eliminated by the other teams back men. so you get your back men to lay down fire for you on their back men, you fakie the first front man, go crazy and pull off a run through shooting and bunkering the next closest person (remember: never stop running!) you should get at least one more person out after the fakie guy and i think 1 for 2,3 or more is worth the sacrafice. ive yet to try this move but ive seen it been pulled off at the local feild by some guys who taught me the fakie, and some pros like lasoya and some of the dynasty.

SNAP SHOOTING--
very important skill for a front man. when ur in ur bunker instead of poping out and pooring on round after round on your man, try kneeling, tuck your marker close to you making your profile as small as possible and pop your marker out and part of your head, take a 2 or 3 shots and pop back in. its kinda like the socom game--you press the right or left button and he leans over to see around a corner or down a wall.

BACK MAN--
i deal thing for a back man to do is find a nice bunker about 1/4 up the feild and just lay on paint on their front men and their back men when you front men are trying to advance or bunker someone.

[chief2003]

Should you ever find yourself with 3 or more players, tell them on the count of three you all start painting every bunker they even think some one may be at. everyone use at least 30 shots. then duck back down. do this a few times. It scares most of the other team, and really keeps them down. it also makes them less willing to move not knowing when to expect it again.

[ZZYZX]

I usually ask the other team, "Hey, my mom says I'm not allowed to get lit up. Please don't shoot me! Those things sting!"

They will usually say "Oh, no problem."

Then as you casually walk by them, you can unload 200 rds into their backs.

It hasn't worked yet, actually, but with a little practice...I think I've got a new signature move! :laugh:

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by ZZYZX
I usually ask the other team, "Hey, my mom says I'm not allowed to get lit up. Please don't shoot me! Those things sting!"

They will usually say "Oh, no problem."

Then as you casually walk by them, you can unload 200 rds into their backs.

It hasn't worked yet, actually, but with a little practice...I think I've got a new signature move! :laugh: I would light your up even if you said that crap.

[SpAz100]

as would i, i would especially aim for you then. u can't play pb and not expect to get hit:|

[tomotmho]

The Best tatic is learning the fields most used areas and hideing in the bushes waitin for the other team to walk up to you, or send any newbies off and tell them to kill all the other team (Use them as bait) :devil:

[plamakr]

In order to be a person who is feared on the paintball field you first have to know where every one one the other team is at all times (unless ur playing a huge game). Second the cost of ur gun does not matter dont let anyone tell u any diffrent what matters is wether or not u know how to move and use all obsticals to ur advantage. Slowly moving forward is the best tactic. If u find ur self moving backward constantly u suck HOLD UR GROUND. next dont fire just because wait for a shot if u do this u will also find ur self constantly losing.
And never "run and gun" be at a stand still when ur shooting

[orpheo]

Organising a massive retreat is confusing to the enemy , they are not sure why you are running , where you are running , and how many are running , if the retreating team is fast enough they can leave the enemy way back , with gives them time to organize a ambush or leave hidden groups of infantry behind , the enemy will try to catch on and will therefor , because they are speeding , get sloppy , they wont check every single hidding place as they will attempt to engage on what they believe is the main enemy retreat :eyes:

Of course , you may not just run or the enemy will be aware of what you are up to , try to make them believe you are taking a beating , fire while retreating , fire while in covering position and when fired back run making them believe you are not up to fight , the enemy will definitly start to become to confident and before they know it they will be surrounded :D , the ambush team must lie low , it must split from the main force when not seen , and remain still until time to launch the assault is apropiate , the use of radios is a great aid to coordinate actions , to avoid friendly fire and pass information on the enemys movements , since the main force is engaging the enemy they can indicate aprox numbers , location , enemys attack formation and defense and even suggest the place where the ambush team would inflict more damage.:)

[sk8er_boy1125]

Throw a grenade and shoot as its falling! If your oponet knows you threw grenade at them there most like going to runsome where wich gives you an advantage to shoot them as there runing. Oh if they dont know you threw a grenade dont bother to waste your balls let the grenade explode!

Always works for me and know one figured it out yet. or just simply stay on the move

[theguyonthenet]

Choose where you flank your opponents. Choose the most over grown, darkest, most vile area. The other team will not be expecting a strike from, they assume, an impassible area. Works great in woodsball but is hard to stay in bounds.

[trandy1001]

When playing a smaller game, know where your buddy is, and your opponent. Your senses are key, if your mask is all foggy, then your gone. Always wait until the last possible second to shoot, because then you have surprise on your side. Do not panic, smartly aimed single shots are better than a barrage of rounds. Make yourself as small a target as possible, and always use cover. Stealth is your friend, if you see someone coming, don't steamroll them right away, wait until they are within a safe range, then fire. Don't be predictable, not as in going Rambo, but taking a different or not too well traveled route. Also, when playing in a team, players must be able to play just as effectivly alone as when with the rest of their group. Most of all, things change, and fast, so be adaptable, use your head,

[PoisnenedAgain]

when someone knows where you are and are watching your bunker, wave your hand out of the bunker. it wastes their paint and if you do it enough when they reload you can move.

[xXniTemAreXx]

you know what the iron men do? lock down, thats what i do, but i do it my way. What i do is do the normal lock down, 1 person on each side of the field, aiming down the other persons lane so that nobody goes thru, BUT, also, i send 1 person down each lane, so there are 2 people locking down, and 2 people rushing..(ussualy i send sykos to rush or people i hate.)

[AirJet]

Stay tight to a Bunker, and waste Paint;) my best strategy.

[Cx Threepio]

Originally posted by PoisnenedAgain
when someone knows where you are and are watching your bunker, wave your hand out of the bunker. it wastes their paint and if you do it enough when they reload you can move.
Your gun works too, me and about 10 other guys were holed up in a castle at a scenario 2 days ago, there were people at the foot of the hill, behind a pile of rocks, and behind bushes. so I kept sticking half my gun out of the door and pulling it in really quick. It wasted a lot of their rounds before they figured out that I wasn't gonna show myself.

[Guitar Junki 16]

As Napolean once said ::slaps on french accent:: "Divide and Conquer"

I think this is the most important strategy of all. Just don't get your teammates caught in the crossfire.

[AirJet]

Yeah but rember, it was Napoleon who got his butt kicked by General Winter.

[Zedthephish]

I personally like to go into a small game (2 vs 2ish) with only about 30-40 shots in my hopper, and one pod, which is hidden. usually i end up trading paint with some one for a little while and let my hopper run out. Sooner or later the other player is going to figure out im out of paint and come up and try to get me. as soon as i know their coming up i reload my hopper and open up.

[ArcticH2O]

Whether your bye yourself or have a few members left on your team in a game, you can always shoot at a guy's bunker and have another guy shoot at it, then you run up and shoot him right up his :goody:

[Mongoose87]

thats assuming he has nobody behind him or next to him. If there is, your an easy target running up there to bunker him.

[dude14]

i play woodsball and this strategy works almost everytime:

You gotta have camo to do this, LOTS of camo. First get some people with fast shooting fingers and tons of camo. Ur mask hasta b camo'd too and everything. i use camo cloth from my old clothes. Well if your not gettin flanked or anything and wanna get the game over with, get the camo'd guys in a wide, long U-shaped formation and get them hidden. Then get at least 3 or 4 players to run up and start shootin. Then they need to retreat fast when the other team naturally starts to advance. But if the other team doesnt advace, it wont work. Some of the retreating guys may get out, but thats ok. then the hopefully still advancing with-confidance-that-they-are-winning-the-game- opposing team members will fall into the middle of the U formation. Close the end of the U to form a circle and blast'em. Ive used the tactic a few times, but if they dont advance, it doesnt work. You can also do this on a smaller scale too. Just depends on the amount of people. Bein part of the camo'd U formation is fun. Especially the blasting part. it'll get out a good portion of the other team out. Everytime i've done it the people that get trapped all get out. Buut, after you do that your in a circle formation and you are in a vunerable position to the possibley-still-there other team.

[selmac]

i play woods ball and whenever i get into a fire fight like someone sneeking behind u or poping out of nowhere i fall over. most surprisingly it works really well cause u see all of them and they have a smaller target at a different place then they're expecting

[dude14]

yea man, that works awesom^^^e. I was walkin through some tall grass one time and this kid popped up 20 feet away and feathered me. I dont know why, but i just naturally fell down, and he didnt even hit me! then i reached my gun up and blasted the little sucker.

[silentsnipe260]

Flanking is a tried and true manuever, which, when coupled with stealth can be very deadly. On one occasion i told my team to concentrate towards the center of the field while a friend and I flanked from oposite sides. He got out b/c he was moving too quickly and was noticed. I stayed in the brush and shade and managed to get completely behind the opposite team. Party time!:crazy: I took out about 4 players on the other team quickly and then went to seperate bunkers and at point blank ask them to surender. So eight guys were out. Bout 5 left. I see my best friend and for some reason decide to be nice and asked him to surrender. All i got from him was a really strange look and 3 paintballs in the groin! Yeh, so don't ask people to surrender. And flank = good. thats my advice.

[k00leo]

One of my favorite tatics is to take the smallets guy of you team (witch was me at the time) and pile leaves and sticks on him. Leave him there and take the rest of your team and go to the end of the area. Let the enemy team pass by and than the small guy comes out with his semi-auto and hits all the ****ers in the back! I got like 3/5 outa this! :D

[Swlax4life]

THis works well when its a small game. Start shooting there bunkers then walk right up to them while still shooting there bunkers then pop over and shoot.

No what is funny though. I was playing on sunday and this kid tries flanking me so hes running right at me and im like yea im screwed so I see if I can just lay off just a few shots and get lucky. Well everyshot he took hit not even close to me. The closest to me was at my knees. After the game he told me somthing like he was so excited he was twichting :crazy: and he could get a good shot off. So to all you at there who are being flanked by kids with easy stimulation dont be scared, they probally wont hit you. I think he had an orgasm he was so exicted, he had all this sticky stuff on his pants, oh wait that was my paint :P

[sniper98]

I like just workin in teams of two at a time. Me and my bro got ghillie suits so all we do is slowly move along secetly without notice and find a good spot in range of a target.No matter what we cant be seen.We wait until they think its safe and they start to move. soon as we have a clear shot we take it,1 shot 1 kill. And they still dont know where it came from. then we just move up to the next guy and do the same thing.:cool:

[thadmag]

hahahaha well my best tacktic when playing 1:1 speed bal is just plain stupid i just shootout and when he/she goes down keep on shooting the area that he/she is in and just spray so si he stays down and just say hey you out ulness you want to be shot from 2 feet away........hahahahahah

[PCW Admin]

This idea works great for a rec field. ya see at my field there are two bases, and two entrances to each base. one way is dry, with randomly arranged cover, the other low in a dry creek with plenty of greens. now what I did was go there in winter and cut a THIRD passageway through thorn brush. now I can sneak through the brush and snipe at em. most times they shoot at the bunkers while I get em from the side! but now they have their own passageway. One is a tunnel under a tree trunk about 15' long, the other a mystery.....

SO the moral of this story is make like the CIA, cuz there are no rules in woodball....

[P8ntballman10]

Crawling on the ground is a great tactic, because they last thing someone will look for in the heat of a paintball game is someone crawling. That's my :twocents:

:chef: sry, but that was just random

[TheMailMan1o1]

ok....

5. And last but not least...NEVER underestimate you opponent...NEVER...

(originally quoted by: MeGotzGriffin)

I dont know how to do those cool quotes that you guys do...

but i was going to say...

Dont give your opponent too much credit.... its not good to say.... oh these guys suck... this will be easy (being over confident).... but also dont say "we are going to get killed by these guys..." (not being confident) tourny players are people too... they aint bots who will gog you 10 out of 10 times..... (well there are people who can do that) (but not everyone) when they get over confident use it to your advantage... i have seen many a player take advantage of this....

dont give too much credit... and dont put yourself down... Play to have fun.... practice makes perfect.......

D a V i D

[death1989angel]

Originally posted by TRTChaoS
best tactical is "dont get shot!"


THIS IS THE BEST TACTIC

[SwiftRaper]

If you are in a bunker exchanging fire with someone you can poke your *** out and not only will this get them to waste paint, most balls that hit your *** will bounce.

Trust me this is why I try not to have to go against fat people.

If your a girl.... well you know what else you can use.

[Kingman_Rodeo]

I've been commended for my tactics by even a few pro's! Well here's one of my treasured tactics! Ok first get a good gun, I use a Piranha R6, and hide it. Now get a crappy gun like a Brass Eagle, then walk onto the field with it. Now you should be a prime target, in fact I guarantee it. Now while they're chasing you take cover quick and throw out your crappy gun, get out your good gun, and spray away, heck if you got a couple paint grenades like Bouncing Betties throw those out there and hide. Now many people have called me a coward for my tactics, but when I ask them why they attacked the guy with the Brass Eagle first, that shuts them up. Use it well! Oh this is what my enemies looked like after the game! :paperbag:

Now as a last note, a few times I've taken out at least half the team using just this tactic:D

[justanotherguy]

if u are in a firefight with a guy who is behind a bunker and you are mostly behind a bunker, don't go down, even if paintballs are izzing inches from your head, if you take cover, you are at a disadvantage, he is set up and ready to shoot. u will have to pop up, locate him aim and then fire, all he has to do is aim an fire, plus if you don't take cover when paintball s are inches from your head, odds are if u get a paintball close to them, they are going in so you'll be out on top

[JRL]

It works for hunters. It'll work in paintball. Just leave a bag/pod of paint (or anything that looks like it from 10 feet). The trick is to make it look like it fell out so a pod 1/2 spilled works. Just hide in the bushes and pwn the newb who tries to get the free paint. Just be sure to have a good laugh about it in the safezone after the game.

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remember: Have fun and be safe.

[TippmannFreak98]

Tactic. Avoid getting shot in the nuts (guys) and crouch when you run and walk. don't get to close to the bunker u have, because u have less room to move in. Knees are the best to like see side to side pro-style like. And never run far then u can handle in the bigginning on the game. Yeah so have fun!

[Pistolero2112]

In both games(Scenario and Speedball), be quiet, observative, and patient. Because someone will be too caught up in the action run right past you or not see you, and then you can shoot them. Or stay in one spot where no one can see you and probably won't find you, and watch for people to come closer to you, and wait for them to get close.

[ctr57138]

i thought this would be tournament tactics... maybe not? since people are saying "sneak up behind the enemy... i dint read the entire thread, but i read a couple to many "sneakings" yea, um, that doesnt usually work... cuz the other team has a backman... but my teams strategy is 3 man- 1 front 2 mids or 2 front 1 mid/back (mostly 2 fronts) one guy in snake and one guy going up other side to cross-up snakes side... and 5-man is still to come because we havent had the tryouts for our team yet.. there in 2 weeks.

[rainofpaint]

3 man tactics (Depending on opposition encountered)

Back/Mid/Front config: Backman lays down a hail of paint off the break, walking to the nearest bunker, preferably the one with the greatest amount of field coverage to keep opponent heads either down or mark 'em out (1 case, 1 kill) Mid travels to the 50 or 40, takes out anyone silly enough to try to move while the backman sprays paint, frontman bunkers the people hiding.

Mid/front/front config: Aggressive tactics for elusive players. Mid acts as a more aggressive version of the backman, moving to the near 60 firing as he moves, left front and right front wrap the field, going up the sides laying down a crossfire on targets designated by the mid (anything he can't lay a clean rope on.) Preferable to have both fronts gang up on and cross up a single player, moving from opponent to opponent in a clean sweep, mid takes the flag while the fronts clean up the last guy.

Mid mid front config: Fast covering fire tactics, mids move up the field and cross up a firing line, laning anything that moves, targetting anyone that decides to stick their head out. Frontman nabs the flag and snap-shoots targets of opportunity. Mid mid front tactic usually keeps both mids out of the bunkers, and keeps the opponents behind their own 40 line from the break.

Back Back Mid config: Two backs firing off the break, mid hangs at the near 40 or 50 and snap-shoots. Not often used, but good to deter aggressive players, horribly defensive however, and doesn't allow for field advances to the flag, We use this against players that rush our near 60 off the break to cover a flag carrier, crossing up and laning their fronts as they rush, with the mid focusing entirely on the flagrunner.

And the almost never used front/front/front config, for when it absolutely, positively has to be an elimination in the first three minutes of the game. Use your imagination.

[zeroeswing]

just something funny......

make an co2 powered (regulated) air cannon that shoots shells with
paintballs (20 or so)and shells with gernades
have a dude with a bag full of shells who reloads you quickly
he should also have two Zeuses so you don't waste shells on single
players who get close (ouch)
sneak around taking out huge groups and forts with 20 rnd shells and
gernade shells



Maybe not the best, but it would be hellza fun!!!


also if you have a camoed gun in the woods with a bipod, lay down in
some brush with camo of course that matches the brush

wait for peeps to come by not too close and snipe
need a bipod for this cause it gets tiring and you don't wanna move too
much or at all so it will be hard to see you

[Pistolero2112]

Be patient. The best tactic is to think and plan out your maneuver. The best defense is a good offense.

[BunkerBuddy_666]

The best defence is a good offence.

if ur playing a game where u have to defende something(castle, flag,person), u should attack the other team instead of just sitting there waiting to be tagged. put up a slowly moving parameter like a half circle. when you start, all run out into oppsate directions and try to form a half circle to cover all of ur sides. everyone should slowly advance, comunicating wit all of the players so everyone knows what part of the half circle the opposition is trying to penatrate. and if anyone thinks they might see someone campingout somewhere, get only one person to fire a couple timesat it, and if it makes noise,moves,screams,shoots back,cires, or whatever, just get everyone that has a clear shot to lay ropes of paint down untill it puts up its marker calling themselves out. if this doesent work, get everyone to shoot at the bunker, than send 1 person to bunker that person camping out.

for speedball
get 2 people in front and cross it up at the 50. 1person in the snake crawling to the other side, to get behind them and tag them. and 2 people as backmen to basicly shoot at any bunker the opponent is behind. if the number of people are larger in the team, ie: (10 players) have 4 backmen,4Front, and 2 snake. and if u have an uneven number of players, ie: 11, tell one noob to go suicide.

[anatine]

1)get really good at shooting while you run and when your good at it. shoot to keeep heads down and run as close as you can (this strategy works best with a farly loud gun but not loud enough so they can tell where you are) to them and light them up this strategy works very well very often (maybe not against pros never played pros yet im a nov)

2)if you find yourself stuck behind a bunker make sure you cant get bunkered and shoot even if you dont know where they are (like i said keep there heads down)

3) and a good defence is always better than a good offence

4)think about what your about to do paintball is 80%mental and 20% phisical (always helps to scare your compotition)

[dyekid_11]

when you get good at this you will always have a chance in a game. snapshooting! snapshooting is this is the best paintball skill you could have and wait wait wait.... please don't flame if you disagree.:D

[buffaugust]

if you know where a player is, wait for them to pop around/under/over their cover and shoot a few shots as soon as you see them... it will hold them down and you may get lucky! it's called spot shooting by my friends. also, don't be afraid to move around. you may get shot some of the time, but you'll get used to it. if you can outflank someone you're automatically in a better position!

not really a tactic but part of planning: make sure your faster players run further... i've been left stranded with no cover because my faster players get to the first bunker and won't move. also, if you have inexperienced players, give them the option of staying toward the back, so that they won't be as afraid.

superior planning is always the best way to go... make sure everyone knows the game plan and make sure you know your team if possible. if someone is afraid to go forward, let them stay back. if someone is a fast runner, try to let them go forward if they are willing. overall, suit your tactics to your team.

[Ebonclaw]

I've turned the feed off of my gun and dry fired, indicating I was out of paint if I'm in a snapshoot fest that's going nowehere. Then I conveniently switch the feed back on after dry firing about three rounds, pop out, and nail the unsuspecting guy coming to bunker me.

Has worked many times for me.

[p_ballermatt98]

The best tactic in my opinion is.... DON'T BE AFRAID!

Just get out there and shoot, don't sit behind a bunker or sit and shoot in one place the whole game. Show some ambition, it'll intimidate the other team. This is aimed mostly towards newbies though, I can't say much for any level after that.

[crazyballer205]

one tactic that i hade my backman do was when we scrimed teams my front and mid got guns and the back man didnt.and all the backman could do was talk tell us were he was at.

[RTC]

I think one of the best tactics in woodsball is to find a nice wooded area and covered on all sides with total concealment. Poke your barrel through a hole in the bushes and just sit and wait for someone to come by. But I would only recommend doing this if there are a lot of ppl playing like 10 on 10 or more. otherwise half the time, no one ever comes by that spot. We play out at a forest we found on some private property in the middle of nowhere. Its heavily wooded and lets me use this tactic a lot. Just dont stay in one spot too long after you shoot soimeone cuz you will either get found by someone else when they tell them or no one will go by there anymore. This also works good if youve been running around the whole game and need a breather. You can still light someone up! :) Oh and only do this if you really know what your doing! cuz you dont want to get lit up because someone knows youre there and you dont know it.

[localpaintball]

This is a tactic that takes balls, and usually only on woods fields. Pretend that you have been shot, but do not raise your hand or hold up your gun or anything else that says you're out. Just walk through the field with your gun down. People will think that you're out and you can walk around freelly. It works in senarios multiple times, but other places it may only work once a day.

HA! Thats works, someone did that to me in a game. i never saw it coming, and its legal, because it doesnt necesarily mean ur out if ur just walkin around. i think someone at my local field has been reading this thtread....

[BrutalLlama1289]

i think the best thing to do on open fields or even some speed ball fields is to have a pivot man, someone who is reasonably experienced, can hold his own in most cirumstances, and wont cry for help when he/she gets shot at. then the two wings work off the piviot man or people and close in to flank. this generally works because most people ten to get jumpy and only look and fire at the person righ infront of them.

[edthehead83]

the best strategy that i use is go with a group of about 8 or 10 ppl. play the part of the "wing". stay away from the enemy from about 2 hundred feet. try to b far away enuff that u can either c the paintballs coming and can dodge them, or they dont kno u r there. if they dont kno were u r...then shoot em. this tactic works better wen the oposing team is defensive and have a small fort or bunker to hold.

p.s. u mainly wanna stay in a trench or a steep hill (ca. 120*)

[edthehead83]

"This is a tactic that takes balls, and usually only on woods fields. Pretend that you have been shot, but do not raise your hand or hold up your gun or anything else that says you're out. Just walk through the field with your gun down. People will think that you're out and you can walk around freelly. It works in senarios multiple times, but other places it may only work once a day."


i dont kno who origanally posted it, thats y i couldnt get a "real" quote. anyway; that would never happen at my local paintball field, anybody on the opposing team without a barrel plug - light them up; like a college bong:laugh: !!
the refs would consider it cheating; theyre not "technical" refs theyre ppl with opinions (unlike some of the places ive been to, some of those refs r jerks)

[Tronix]

I love this although it is hard to pull off and u usually need a ref watching but heres what you do.

The game start run up as far as you can wait till you can bunker someone and kinda sit where they were faceing your team and move backwards like your retreating till you got a few off them are in ur view and let her rip and start taking them out... very hard to pull off but really funny after it's done i got shot both times doing it but got about 3 ppl each time

[^Arbiter171^]

sounds hard to pull off, but i thnk itll work

[Tronix]

yeah it does. try it though

[^Arbiter171^]

another good one is for you to attract attention(Shooting yelling) and then run back between two buddies who are about 20-25 metters apart.

they never stop to think if it's a trap

[kwalski]

RLH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SuperTrooper_OT]

A useful tactic in woodsball is, "The Zigzag"(Zigzag on the course while in tight situations, but you still move up while doing this). I know this may sound like the easiest thing you can do, but it requires certain rules to accomplish this tactic...

#1: Know the environment. Know the condition of the entire area. You don't want to end up tripping and falling flat on your arse all because of a small treestump.

#2: When doing this manuever while rushing someone, ALWAYS, focus where others might be. You may be close enough to them but then you can get shot in the back.

#3: Keep moving fast. The faster you are, the harder to hit.


Tactic Number 2
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Stealth: Being stealthy is what 60% of bushballers will do on average. When sneaking around, be focused on your advantage point. If you see 2 enemys, and you clearly have the advantage, then only fire if you will be prepared for onslaughts of other enemys.

Another good thing to do is, keep in contact with your team. If worst comes to worst, you can rely on your teamates for support.

If your team is strugling with a frontal assault, flank the enemy. And when the enemys are focused on you, thats your key to victory!

^
These are only a few stealth tactics, i will update later but i gotta get some sleep. Workin early tomorrow.

[Evilhand]

my tactic keep shooting at the bunker where they are so they keep there little heads from peaking out until you get to the bunker you need. or just shoot at every thing that moves

[rainofpaint]

This thread hasn't died yet?

-breaks out the wooden stake, silver bullets, and garlic-

[PBJuice]

All right none of u are going to believe me,but I have this crazy Idea of alternating ur middle and index fingers on the trigger to make it shoot faster.lol

[p8ntballin fool]

right off the bat move out as far as possible ( im a frontman if u couldnt tell ) try to stick to bunkers that have a standup and a laydown or a combo. stay quiet for a moment to take the pressure off of ur bunker. try to quickly advance up the field shouting where ppl r, and suppressing ny1 who sees u. wen u feel u have gotten to a critical point in the field...open fire! take out the first person with as few balls as possible, and if no1 sees u, take out the next person the same way. if u have a bunker that u can see all/most of the field from, pick off runners from bunker to bunker. try not to gain attention from others and stay tucked bhind the bunker to avoid being seen. call for a paintcheck instead of cursing and letting enemies hear u;) . IN OTHER WORDS....MAKE IT TO THE END OF THE GAME.

[xtremepantbaler]

My favorite is on a windy day bring a string that can snap if someone walked into it and a brightly coored hat...tie it somewhere visible to the other team make a couple of loud noises and go the other way :crazy:

[paintballluva]

here is a really good tactic for speeeeeedball..................................... .................................................. ...shoot alot

[pbjoe693]

Why would I want to tell hundreds of people my BEST tactic

[paintballluva]

here is a good tactic for woods ball......*clear throat* ok off the break WALK DONT RUN WALK, then after you have went up 300-400 feet up, u still shouldnt see anybody yet...after you realize that u just walked 300 ft up a field without firing a single shot...walk off the field

WOODSBALL STINKS

[tighttippmann]

sometimes one of the best things to do is to ignore your "stupider" teammates and use there attemps as a distraction.

[gdog5]

Originally posted by tighttippmann
sometimes one of the best things to do is to ignore your "stupider" teammates and use there attemps as a distraction.
or little brothers...

[TheMailMan1o1]

anyone still post on this website?

i havnt been on here for like 9 months

[dude14]

Heres the best tactics ever-

Dont get shot

win the game

[soadnation]

mine is use the other team and the field to your advantage. like where i paintball we built a tower in a tree and a dug in bunker wiht a roof(pillbox). since i was in charge of builing them and i like ambuushing people i built it relitivly close to some thick foilage. so i camp in their or around there and wait for them to go in them then ambush them.

or for using them to your advantage my friends always start at one base and they always cheat by going before the game starts. they always go the same way and always use pone of 10 obsticals(all are to the side of our base) so we have 2 people run away from our base and ambvush those people

[AJPaparo]

Somthing that can really help you out and encourage you, is to think that this is a real situation. If you get shot your dead. You treat the game as if it were real. This always makes you think a lot better and help you conscentrate with your accuaracy, and tactics.

Say you see two people and you have a shot at either of the two. You shoot not thinking at all you miss they find you BAM! your done. Now on the other hand you think. This is it, if I miss I am dead. It kind of fun accually. This will make you a bit more accuarate because the shot is important to you now and you REALLY don't want to miss.

Hey it's what I do, try it out it might make you think better or somthing.

[Cool shoes]

Don'r be afraid of getting hit. If u aren;t afraid of the pain, u preform better in every situation. Try playing a game where u aren't out until u give up cuz of the pain. This will completely eliminate any anxieties that u hav about being shot

[paintballa_1313]

anything in this might be in another post, because i was too lazt to read them all.


First send out the noob as a decoy but make your plan sound good, like it would really work.

Next is try good camo such as ghillie suits. A great camo website is cabelas.com They are very cheap with camo and don't buy the cheapest camo you can find , it will rip.

Using hand signals helps. It helps lower sound. The milatary uses them. Just use a few basics though, such as stop, go, follow me,cover me, i'm covering you, it's clear, or any thing else you might need. They don't have to be like the ones the seals use, but your own, and make them all very differnt of you may get confused an do the wrong thing which could cost you a tourney.

This one is my favorite for one reason. I used it while ding-dong ditching at 3:00 int the morning. You keep a few rocks in your pocket (not in the same pocket so they are rattling). Well in ding-dong ditching if the person comes looking for you you throw a rock and they go in that direction. Then you can run, but in paintball you set them up for a shot.

A few common sense ones (but there are people out there with-out it)are things like stay low, use your cover, pick up your feet don't drag them, walk on bare spots in the woods to minimaze tig breakage (mossy spots, grass). Leaves may be considered a bare spot but unless they are wet, they will crunch.

Camping is a good way of not being detechted. But if you have to move try cover and move with two or three at the most guys not 10.

Everything else should be easily done by you. LIke if your by your self or with one other guy don't shoot into a pack of 15 guys.

[triggerhappym]

IF your behind a building in woodsball and you are totally pinned down wait until the person pinning you down gives themself cover fire and sneak all the way around the building in a low crouch or crawl so that you reach the other guy just as he is going around the corner to where he thinks you are (oh look a noob!) jump out and shoot. I got some guy in the mask totally covering it in paint.

[slaminator3323]

Don't get shot.

[PB_Sniper_Monke]

ok, this is for 3v3. since noone ever plays 3v3 anymore, its kinda usless, but it can be adapted. its good.i mean, when we did 5 versus five, we were all newbs, playing a tourny lvl team with $1000 guns (all but t wo of us had rentals) and only one person got out. me :sulk: . Ok, player one takes the far left, runs loud and faster, never stops shooting. make people pay attention to them. the second goes through the middle, and fires at the left side of people, so they won't wanna move that way. odds ar, they will also be paying attention to person 1., who keeps pressure on them always. person 3 sneaks around the left side, not taking alot of shots, and staying hidin. eventually, since the people will be focusing on the other people, he will be close enough to touch them. open up when you have the right shot and bam. game over. when i did use this with 3v3, i was the sneaker, and i got within 2 feet of one guy, and of another (i bunker the, both :banana:

[tippyballa77]

If I'm playing a small game i pin my man and I sometimes get some cover and run at them and shoot like in speedball.

[happy_baller]

I got a little strategy for ya scenario genrals out there I call it (see topic for info). It is best used when attacking a deffended position. For this type of attack ya need a large body of infantry(do not use any one you can't live without) and a handful of tanks. You first send in a large number of infantry on a suicidal charge(buy leave some for your tanks) at the position the attack should end up in heavy losses but once your guys fall back it should demorolize the enemy. Then your tanks charge the position with the infantry behind them for support. The charge should break thier lines pretty easily. Once you take it hold it with the tanks and infantry until the guys eliminated earlier reinsert. This plan is a daring and bold it might win ya a game and might lose you a game.

[pyrojoe11]

i know from experience about this

never stay where you are for long

play aggresively

dont be afraid of getting hit


if you are on a 1 on 1 or 2 on 1 and pinned
always keep your head up and be ready for your opponents to make a move, because if they move perpindicular to you they wont be very accurate and youll be expectingthem and eliminate them...also this give you an advantage cuz youll be watching them and will lay fire on them so they wont move that gives you the chance to make a move on them with out them realizing it so when they pop out to shoot you, they will be expecting you on the last bunker a you can pop them right in the gogg

[IronCorps]

Be patient. If you are playing in a private group, tell your guys to wait for the enemy to walk right on top of them.

Bordom WILL set in after a few minutes for the enemy.

Attack when they are relaxed.

Attack from behind.

Use a marker besides a blade/talon lol

Dont stream paint in the woods, it gives you away.

[pyrojoe11]

Pincer movement and leapfrog always rock

also somewhere on the specops website they have soem amazing stategies

[slaminator3323]

Yeh those stratagies are also common sense.

[pyrojoe11]

true

[automagsrock68]

lone wolf, and flank 'em

[Dead Aim77]

For Woodsball 5v5 have 2 go far left and 2 go far right and the person with the loudest gun and best skills goes up the middle. Most people on the other team will focus on him while the other 2 groups meet up 20 yards away from the farthest enemy player. then they sneak in to flank. And if you are lucky your distraction guy would have at least taken out one guy to make it 4v4 behind them. Then as soon as they flank them the distraction will come up and bunker them if possible.

Tell me if this is a good strategy or not?

[IronCorps]

heres the best phrase to live by, "When in doubt, shoot it out."

[IsaactheRetard]

i love to be sneaky and keep movin

[asasin]

my favorite tactic to do is-------when your opponet is behind a bunker keep him down by shooting about 20 balls, then when they are down run like a bat outa hell, right next to a guys bunker and shoot him.

[gnurider1080]

i love bunkering people when they have total tunnel vision and dont even notice me until they get shot and look up. did that a few times tonight. not bad for my first time playing in nearly 2 years.

[meetmrnewb]

Snapshooting with both hands. It does wonders, even if you can only hit 4-7bps in your offhand.

[tippmannmandan]

A team I was on was made semi-famous for this technique called "Strike Force Tachone"

Any way we were playing woodsball in a L shaped field with a heavily fortifed fortess in the center, and the flags were at the respective teams base on the wings of the L. We divided our team into thirds and hade one of the thirds (codename Strike Force Tachone). The strike force was supposed to slowly move up the the fortress and take it if at all possible and could call on another one of the thirds (codename Pivital) to press for the enemy's base. However the strike force met heavy resistance at the fortress as expect the other team was trying a bum rush. Me and my Sergent Tony instructed the rest of our army to spread out lay down about 30 feet away from the flag in a large cresent. Once laying down they covered themselves with leaves and underbrush. We waited for about 3/4 of the enemy army to come into the center of the crecent and take the flag then we signal for attack. Imagine if you can 30 guys that were totaly unprepared with no cover vs 25 guys who were prepared and attaking from every angle. We lost about 6 guys in that fight we then I then left Tony and 5 other guys with the flag and moved the rest of the army to the enemy base. The enemy base having thought we were trying to sweep around the back of them had set up a large rear guard and was totally caught unprepared by 20 guys attacking at once in a large entrapping manuver. It was the best game ever.

[bruc3]

my favorite tactic is to shoot at people and hit them......or make a dive past there bunker and get into one behind them if they are last on team

[Erlosung]

Yeh those stratagies are also common sense.
Heh, so are all of these. :P

[LnSkter]

yeah, pretty much like everyone else has said be quite, don't take any unnessary shots, and try to divert those that appose a threat to you, altogether be a sneak

[splatmania]

the good old shoot-fall back-shoot-fall back tech. works 4 me at least in woods ball ... o yea and let there point man get realy close then shoot him out and run back into another position and repeat have to be wearing camo though... considering there is no such thing as a sniper in paintball!!!

[Morhas]

Where I play woodsball there are some trees that grow small uneatable apples. Before the game you talk to everyone and make sure everyone knows that you have a grenade (Ask if they are legal or talk about the deal you got on them). Right before I go out pocket a couple of apples. Usually their team hides in one main trailor. I tell someone to start sneaking around the back. I then throw the apple into the trailor. By the time they realise that I threw an apple they have alredy been shot.:)

[Darkfusion777]

Teehee...I love playing in the woods,and my favorite thing to do is to throw a stick or a rock to fool 'em. Basically be a sneaky*******.

[TeamInfernoCapt]

LOL when you throw stuff, the only thing that happens is-
1) They see where the stick came from
2) They shoot you when you are occupied with the stick.

The best thing to do with a team in woodsball is to have a "strong side" of the field or area. Then if you get in a firefight, you have an advantage of numbers. If your team seperates, you will only get picked off one by one, and you might end up shooting your own people.

BASICALLY DO THE SENSIBLE THING. Don't do any Hollywood movie stunts, just shoot the other team. Not saying that using special tactics is wrong, but i mean, throwing sticks? Hahaha

[t-wellz1]

if u got a gravity loader put your gun anyway but in normal position (down) and start shootin air and its a way to bunker someone with using much paint

[t-wellz1]

if u got a gravity loader put your gun anyway but in normal position (down) and start shootin air and its a way to bunker someone with using much paint i use it all the it works great with noobs:D

[splatmania]

... i dont know anyone who would fall for that

[PMP]

dont take positios where you can be attacked from both sides like my freind did. He blamed it on me for not covering him. When i saw this happen i retreated this is another great tactic just retreat when things get ugly.