e 99 or black dragun [Archive]

paintster14

09-01-2002, 09:46 PM

its in the right forum smart one but anyhow go with a black dragun the frames may be plastic but they are alot faster then any electro spyder frame and BD's i think are better quality hell i need to get one myself anyone wanna trade a nice tl+ for a black dragun?

AznRuffRyder

09-01-2002, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by paintster14
its in the right forum smart one but anyhow go with a black dragun the frames may be plastic but they are alot faster then any electro spyder frame and BD's i think are better quality hell i need to get one myself anyone wanna trade a nice tl+ for a black dragun?

how can it be faster?if the same guy is firing both of them..he would get about the same bps with both guns....it just depends on the person

vailripper

09-15-2002, 10:09 PM

Have you looked at the eforce? I would jighly recommend taking a look at it. I was just about to get a dragun when I tried the eforce and thought (this thing rips) Try both of them out, and buy whichever one you like more. The are both fairly evenly matched. (Cept the eforce owns both of those IMO.)

PolicarStudios

09-15-2002, 10:17 PM

The black draguns do have a much faster trigger in that the pull is WAY better. I can really rip on those things, better than any other electro.

They are good and come with a reg. e-99 is nice too, but even though I'm a big spyder fan I like the black dragun. Internal cocking system, regulator, AMAZING trigger pull.

Just not too accurate.

kap

09-15-2002, 10:31 PM

CAN THE E99 SHOOT 13 BPS WITHOUT CHOPPING
NO THE DRAGON YES (STOCK THAT IS ) I GOT A DRAGON NOT TO LONG AGO AND I WANTED TO SEE IF IT WOULD CHOP WITH A REGULAR HOPPER NOPE IT DID FINE. I USED A REGULAR HOPPER FOR FOUR GAMES THEN I GOT BACK TO MY SENCES AND PUT MY RICOCHET ON

flame_head01

09-20-2002, 07:41 PM

Man i got my E-99 and its awsome. Itl Shoot 13bsp great on full auto no prob and i adjusted my trigger down to 1mm pull. It doesnt come with a reg but that can be fixed. Im gonna get a freak set once i get the money and its gonna be so awsome. But i got mine for $160 off actionvillage.com

MAJ. RaZoR -MR-

09-28-2002, 09:26 PM

Yea dood git an e-99. ive tested one after i got my Excelerator.. and i kinda wish i had chosen the E99 instead. its very sweet.

ImpYa

09-29-2002, 06:14 PM

Only the black dragun compact has a plastic frame. Also, is there any other hybrid out there that can hit 20bps*...i dont think there is, but correct me if im wrong.

L8ter

ImpYa

*Black Dragun LCD = 20bps
Black Dragun Basic = 14bps
Black Dragun Compact = 10bps

starboarder2001

10-22-2002, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by kap
CAN THE E99 SHOOT 13 BPS WITHOUT CHOPPING
NO THE DRAGON YES (STOCK THAT IS ) I GOT A DRAGON NOT TO LONG AGO AND I WANTED TO SEE IF IT WOULD CHOP WITH A REGULAR HOPPER NOPE IT DID FINE. I USED A REGULAR HOPPER FOR FOUR GAMES THEN I GOT BACK TO MY SENCES AND PUT MY RICOCHET ON

LOL

supersoaker13

10-29-2002, 06:50 AM

the black dragun is the way to go the bacl dragun lays out about 10-14 bps no other blow back can do that ive also known the e-99 to chop a bit of paint in its day the dragun never has that porblem

starboarder2001

10-29-2002, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by supersoaker13
the black dragun is the way to go the bacl dragun lays out about 10-14 bps no other blow back can do that ive also known the e-99 to chop a bit of paint in its day the dragun never has that porblem

they are the same markers....the dragun just has a better triggerframe.:)

Mack Daddy420

10-29-2002, 08:52 AM

the e99 has a better pull than BD cuz the e99 has adjustable trigger

supersoaker13

10-29-2002, 09:10 AM

if u want to you can buy an adjustable trigger and it dosent chop paint like the e-99

starboarder2001

10-29-2002, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Mack Daddy420
the e99 has a better pull than BD cuz the e99 has adjustable trigger

LOL no it is not....well yea it is ajustable from 4mm to 2mm.

Mack Daddy420

10-30-2002, 04:02 AM

youre wrong........4mm to 0.5 mm

supersoaker13

10-30-2002, 04:05 AM

ok it has 4mm to 0.5 mm adujstment but that dosent do any good if your shootin a blender

starboarder2001

10-30-2002, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Mack Daddy420
youre wrong........4mm to 0.5 mm

no. I ajusted one for a friend and it barely ajusted anything. it was still a long triggerpull. The black dragun has a better triggerpull and if u want to make it better u can get a checkit stick trigger and it is ajustable.

TorchedLH

10-30-2002, 04:47 PM

CIP also makes a blade/stick trigger for sypders too.. check out paintballgateway.

arkangels7

11-15-2002, 07:27 PM

i just got finished checkin out my friends b.d. basic. it DOES shoot fast. I play with an E99 and it can compete with his marker. I mean the stock trigger pull is nothing like the bd's but when i did my trigger job its just as good. i think theyre equally as good. i got my e99 on sale for 125 at paintballgear.com so it comes down to what you wanna pay, and what looks like the best for your money.

sk8tr03

11-18-2002, 04:55 PM

I wanto put a BD frame on my piranha. I saw where you can buy them separatly but i forgot where??? Where can i get them lol:D

starboarder2001

11-19-2002, 12:01 PM

www.paintballgateway.com should have some.

arkangels7

11-19-2002, 02:31 PM

what guns does the M3 electro frame work with? its on sale for 75 bucks here: http://www.paintballgateway.com/m3elframplas.html (the same place the last guy said). i really liked my friends bd basic, the trigger pull was real light.

TorchedLH

11-20-2002, 09:37 AM

if ROF is your concern.... Black draguns are capped at 10bps except for the patriots and LCDs

arkangels7

11-21-2002, 02:54 PM

it seems that since the BD has a lighter trigger and trigger pull that it has a higher ROF. but my E99 is supposed to have higher, (around 13bps). but i dont see how any human can actually shoot 13 balls in one second. Think about it: you shooting your gun 13 times in one second. "One thousand-one.." you just shot 13 balls? I dunno, just seems kinda hard... but oh well.

TorchedLH

11-21-2002, 05:23 PM

some can shoot 19bps on angels... :o

bam87

12-07-2002, 09:39 AM

the bd basic rips. my friend got one a month ago and its insane how light the trigger pull is. its light in more ways than one... the trigger barely weighs anything so its easy to pull it back, i have nothing against the plastic trigger/trigger frame. i have an e99 with some nice mods and i almost wish i got the bd...almost. the e99 can be pretty sweet with the right stuff.:D

starboarder2001

12-07-2002, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by TorchedLH
if ROF is your concern.... Black draguns are capped at 10bps except for the patriots and LCDs

I would be suprized if u could pull that fast...most people dont pull as fast as they think:| . I can pull about 12...can fan 13.:| They only way to realy find out how fast your shooting is to shoot over a red chrono or own a angel(lcd screen shows u).

Originally posted by TorchedLH
some can shoot 19bps on angels... :o

with a alot of trigger bounce u might be able to shoot or walk 19bps....but u wont be able to hold it. I am still not shure if those claims are true...the fastest i have seen was 15.

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=872364
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=865425

see how easy pictures can be edited...that is why I dont always believe what i see on internet.:|

markee151

12-26-2002, 08:33 PM

im not bragging, but when i first got my gun(first gun) i could outshoot the 10 bps board EASILY, maybe its just me but 10 bps isnt fast

tippmannweekend

12-28-2002, 07:51 AM

:crazy: :pissed: so let me get this striat if u get a black dragun basic has a plastic trigger frame but the lcd has metal what about the led?

starboarder2001

12-28-2002, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by markee151
im not bragging, but when i first got my gun(first gun) i could outshoot the 10 bps board EASILY, maybe its just me but 10 bps isnt fast

Did u shoot it over a red chrono to see....if u were just clicking on it..u were probably way off. But hitting 10 isn't that hard..its shooting 10 consistently that may be difficult.

smokie

01-03-2003, 05:51 AM

i would go with the black dragun b/c i have one and it really fits me b/c i like fast guns with a real short triger pull. but the e- 99 is also pretty good i think. so go with what ever fits u best.:D

Empyre

11-04-2004, 07:33 PM

if your really worried 'bout trigger pull and bps rates (i doubt you could walk/rake faster than either of them) if you get e-99 with t chip and upgrade chip it will have infinite bps, yeah... infinite (as fast as ur fingers & hopper) and get a slasher or sweet spopts trigger, w/those the e-99 could easily take on intimidators and angels

clown_13_2001

11-04-2004, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Empyre
if your really worried 'bout trigger pull and bps rates (i doubt you could walk/rake faster than either of them) if you get e-99 with t chip and upgrade chip it will have infinite bps, yeah... infinite (as fast as ur fingers & hopper) and get a slasher or sweet spopts trigger, w/those the e-99 could easily take on intimidators and angels

Thanks for upping a year and 3/4 old thread.:rolleyes: