I'm getting impulse, i have questions

[kappbat]

ok...im gettn an impulse...and i have a few questions...

1) is there a difference bettween the 2000, and 2002s? if so wat

2) A) wat do i need to buy inorder to put a autococker front reg onto my impulse? and where can i buy it?
B) wats the point of this?

3) do impulse any type of timing?, if so wat?

4) does a shocker out shoot an impulse in range and accuracy by alot?

[brodude2002]

1) Have no idea. probably
2) this (http://stores.cipp.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=mipaint&Product_Code=lprkitwithcap&Category_Code=implprstuff)
3) no
4) no

-werd
brodude2002

[kappbat]

thanks, does any one else have any thing to add?

[tommyd]

i think the only difference between the 2k and the 2k2 is the board someone correct me if im wrong the dwell adjusters are different. one is push button and the other is a knob type thing you turn. i think dont uote me on that

[FISHY]

AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGG no gun shoots farther than another!
and accuracy is paint to bore match

[Skog]

1) ok, the difference isnt about years, its about serial numbers or simply which version board they have.

Impulses with SN's above 12000 cannot be fitted with either the VFF or HFV (2 types of solenoid optimisers) and come with a gas thru grip as standard with horizontal regulated imps

Impulses with the "V2" or "cricket" board have a blue led instead of a greean/orange one, make a chirp sound when buttons are pressed, have a push button dwell and a slightly higher ROF

2) you are talking about an LPR, they allow you to independantly control your cocking pressure for increased efficiency, i strongly recomend that you do NOT get one of these unless you have a very good knowledge of how they work, what they are supposed to do, and how to set up your imp to use one properly as they require a lot of work to get your impulse setup to use one right. you can simply get a tapeworm for a lot cheaper and get most of the benefits.

3)impulses have "dwell", basically you set your pressure on your max flo to 180 psi and then adjust your dwell till you chrono 280 fps

4) shocker and impulse are about the same stock, but a shocker has slighlty less kick 'cos it is a brick and so it will seem to be more accurate as your hand won't be moving as much.

[SkillzMasta]

FISHHY dont even make me start. Certain guns shoot father then others its a fact. I have proved it at my field. Reason is because evry gun has different internals ,pressure etc. , these cause different trajectories and hence some shoot father then others

[Silver Dragon]

of course some guns can shoot father then others. are you telling me a point zero model 83 can shoot as far as a tippmann 98 w/ flatline?

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Seriously, except the flatline, which shoot farther because of backspin, all guns have a same first shot. It doesn't matter how the insides are. Man you people are dumb. It doesn't matter what pressure it is, if its going the same FPS it will go the same distance. Unless the barrel is muffed.

[tommyd]

im with no damn names on this because he is right. and simple physics can prove it. think about it 2 different people throw a base ball at exatly the same trajoctory and the same speed (none of that curve ball crap either just a strait up pitch) you think person A's ball will go farther than person b's ball? there is one variable that has to do with range and thats back spin. So taking out under tow bolts and the flatline every single freaking gun will shoot the same distance regardless of what your "inferior tests have shown" not to mention both markers need pressure consitany and the same barrel but barrel is a very small factor. not to mention paintcheck.com used to have a great article proving that guns with all thoose constants will not shoot farther than another gun of a different type but with the same constants. unfortunatly i can not find that article let me know if you find it some where

[SkillzMasta]

hes wrong like 95% of the other people...for example we'll use the autococker and the angel. When paintballs are shot from an autococker they have a very flat trajectory which makes them go good distances. The angel though puts a doward arc to its shots sorta like a rainobow which give it shoter distances.....but it also gives the angel a unique ability to dip shots over bunkers and get people out. I know 95% of you will disagree with me but the 5% that do are right.

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

If the autococker had a flatline on it. Your giving us biased test on something your wrong about. What condition were these shot in, what fps? what psi? where? what humidity? What paint? Boy am I going to get alot of I don't knows there. I've shot both a cocker and a spyder, both at 275 and guess what? They went the same, actually the spyder went a bit further, but thats cuz of my aim.

And where are you getting these useless statistics from? 95% agree with me and their wrong? I am glad you can make stuff up. And no its not 95%, its just the informed people who use this zany thing we like to call "physics"

[SwingKid]

I my self did think at one time some guns will shoot farther then others, but now after really thinking about it they dont. The only exception would be the flatline though. If 2 guns are shot at the same time at the same velocity,same paint to barrel match they will go the same distance. Some guns may shoot flatter then others but they will go the same distance. Once the ball has left the barrel going 275 FPS it dosnt matter what gun it came out of it is still goin the same speed as the other paintball from the other gun. Thus goin the same distence. Gravity pulls on the paintball from a cocker just like it does from a Angel.

[tommyd]

one thing swing kid trajectory does matter :)

[SkillzMasta]

ok names since you only been here for lets say 1 1/2 month you probably didnt see one of these threads yet ....and there was a thread all about distance and lots of people posted few agreed. That where i got my estimate.

Ok now for the 2nd part. You people love to use the words "gravity" and "physics" to try to backup there statement that all guns shoot the same distance. The fact is though that when a paintball is fired from a marker each marker puts a slight spin on the ball. This is where im gonna put the angel and autococker into place. Ok the angel puts a slight forward spin on the paintball when its fired (like all other guns but it puts slightly more to make a noticable difference in longer shots) which gaves the angel its famous dipping shots. Now dont get me wrong i like the angel and this feature of it makes it a front players dream since he can dip shots down into a bunker which other markers cant do and ive seen many awsome shots done by this (hopefully a experienced angel user is reading this and they will tell you how they use the dip to there advantage). Ok now for the autcocker, as you all know most people say the autococker has the flatest trajectory (i think so to but other markers close) and this is because the autococker puts a slightly less forwardspin then most guns and thats why it achieves farther distances. Now your physics would be right if you used both the same guns and if all paintball guns put the same amount of spin on the ball. And dont metion the flatline barrel anymore we all know thats different. TY :)

[kappbat]

uhm....i need answers concerning my impulse...all of u r going off topic, if u still wanna debate on whether guns shoot further, go talk to each other on AIm

[SkillzMasta]

oh yea thank you tommyd for reminding me to explain those key points that i just posted before this if it wasnt for you i woulda forgot to write them because i didnt really think this thread was gonna develop that much

[SkillzMasta]

i belive the 2000's are thh ones that say impulse in white letters on the side of the gun ......i think in 2001 model they made the little purple thing on the side..... also they have different boards and the trigger is slightly different on the 2000's you actually see the springs behind the trigger and you odnt on 2001 and newer. the 2002's cant get voodoo full flow installed but you can always get a tapeworm. Im not very experienced with shocker but from what i hear they are slightly smoother shooting gun but they are also bulkier , doesnt matter to everyone just on that persons preferance. thats all i can of for now to get back on subject :)

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Incase you havn't noticed, alot of people that have been here for a long time have dates like mine. if you were here longer you'd know that. and how can a cockers bolt put a spin on a ball that doesn't get touched by it? hmmmmm? I've shot both guns that you are talking about, and guess what? There was no difference in distance. I don't know what paint you were using but if the angel is dipping like you are saying, check it. Because I did shoot a angel, around 50 rounds. They didn't dive.

[SkillzMasta]

Whatever you say. AND WHEN DID I EVER SAY THE BOLT. read more carefully. har har everyone names knows everything letsl isten to him cause hes soo smart he shot an angel for 50 shots he must know the entire sport then. youll never get any better in the sport if your so one minded like you are now. you have to take in knowledge from other players and i took this in from my own knowledge and from the supirior teams my team practices against. But dont listen to me cause you know everything.

[tommyd]

ok both of you quit fighting this is turning into a flame war lets all sit down and have a nice discussion

anyhoo i want some numbers to back you up skillz so next time im at the field i will put someones cocker and somones angel in a vise they will both be level and in one same angel both running max flos to ensure consistancy and both using venturi type bolts and using freaks same bore size same paint from the same case and same velocity and we will go 1 by one and shoot them to see which one infact does go further i wont be going to the field anytime soon so i hope someone else has enough motivation to prove him wrong.

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Why don't you shut the **** up? Huh? If I shot 50 with an angel and 50 with a cocker and didn't notice a differnce I don't give a **** what the **** you say, because I am right. God dumb little ****s like you piss me off. You have no clue what your talking about, your prolly 12 and needed mommy and daddy to let you view the big bad forums. Why don't you shut your cake hole.

[Skog]

Originally posted by blinkpk11
arguing on the internet is like the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded....

ok, so lets end this discussion now by answering the question that was asked in the first place:

the shocker seems a little more accurate than the impulse as it is heavier and so has less kick, this means that although your first shot will be the same on both, the shocker will shoot what appear to be more accurate strings

now that that is settled i don't want no more arguing:finger:

[Excellerator3.5]

damn you guys act like your both 12 and you were given an angel as your first marker....

[SkillzMasta]

well at least i didnt bad mouth....ok ok im done lol

tommyd maybe sometime i can play paintball with you i have to check my tournamnet schedule you seem like a nice person.

anyway back on topic if you play front i suggest i suggest you get an impulse if you play back i suggest shocker in the middle get impulse. I have nothing against shockers and im not saying you cant use one for front im just saying an impulse is easier to stay tighter with since it smaller.