something i have observed about most BKO owners

[iPaintball68]

I was at my field, and there were 3 kids with BKOs. all 3 were runnin co2 and 2 were runnin motorized hoppers. i talked to them all and asked whats up with there setups. they all replied "i just sold my spyder/pirhana/whatever to get a BKO,. but i dont have enough money for nitro or a rev" then as i was talkin to one of them about there co2 setup, the other comes over and is like "MY GUN STOPPED WORKING" and im like "what happened" and hes like "i dunno, i think its cause of my co2". well we tok it into the shop and yep, one was because he ws runnin co2, the other is becuase he chopped a paintball and the shell got jammed in between the bolt and body cause the bolt to stick. now what im gettin at is it seems a lot of people are buyin bkos to upgrade there spyders and such, but i highly recommend that you save up for nitro and a motorized hpper before buying your whole setup. its not good for a electric gun to run on co2, when its not recommended. sure you can run it, but in the long run it will hurt you. and switching from co2 to nitro can also make your gun all messed up and be a ***** to tune.

[SPS16]

thats not the norm

[Jonnyrotten7]

i hgave an anti syphon tank could thsat screw up a bko.i ve been running its on my spyder flash and i havent had any problems yet

[Rebel32flanker]

You should have less liquid CO2 in the marker with anti siphon, but CO2 is still really dirty whereas HPA is a lot cleaner and overall better for your marker. It is also MUCH more consistent since it has a regulated out put pressure and is not effected like heat and cold the way CO2 is.

Here is a little analogy for you:

If you buy the BMW you put premium gas through it cause it is better for it and more pure ect, as in my opinion when you buy a marker with a value over 200 then you use HPA. I know some people don't agree, but most do.

To answer your question no CO2 won't "screw up" your BKO, but it will get the internals dirty and it won't be nearly as consistent as HPA so you won;t be as accurate and if you play in really cold conditions you will get liquid CO2 in the marker no matter what.

Remember friends don't let friends use CO2 in their high end markers!

[PolicarStudios]

co2 really isn't that bad. automags are strongly recommended against running it, but cockers and impulses especially run anti-siphon co2 darned well

[iPaintball68]

yeah, but since the bko is based on the bushy and u cant really run a bushy on co2, why run the bko? belive me, its not healthy. exactly what rebel said about the bmw. co2 is dirty, its a liquid, and its generally not good for the gun or the o rings

[AngelsHolocaust]

i dont really see all the hooplah over n2 for a rec-baller, if i had a bko, and didnt already have a n2 tank, i would use co2, anti-siphon of course. and eventually would throw on a palmer stabilizer. i know all the advantages with n2 and dont think its neccesary for a player like me..when i switched my cocker to n2, honestly i didnt notice ANY difference

[iPaintball68]

ok, lets figure this out. lets buy a anti siphon tank for 30-40 dollers. now, lets buy a palmer reg for what, 60-70? that is over 100 dollers. you can get a good nitro tank for that price

[Rebel32flanker]

Originally posted by iPaintball68
ok, lets figure this out. lets buy a anti siphon tank for 30-40 dollars. now, lets buy a palmer reg for what, 60-70? that is over 100 dollars. you can get a good nitro tank for that price

Exactly:)

[AngelsHolocaust]

i dont exactly consider pure energy or crossfire good tanks, theyre alright and will do the job, but i would be happier with co2. when i have to pay for air when playing outlawball its alot cheaper to fill co2, 3.25 for a 20 oz. and 6 bucks to fill my tank to 3000 psi, they cant fill to 4500:( but if i had to pay for that it would really suck, 9 bucks

[Rebel32flanker]

Originally posted by AngelsHolocaust
i don't exactly consider pure energy or crossfire good tanks, they're alright and will do the job, but i would be happier with co2. when i have to pay for air when playing outlawball its alot cheaper to fill co2, 3.25 for a 20 oz. and 6 bucks to fill my tank to 3000 psi, they cant fill to 4500:( but if i had to pay for that it would really suck, 9 bucks

Well not everyone is in your situation I get my Center Flag tank filled for 5 bucks and I only get 2 fills a day and it is 8 bucks to get a 20oz filled so Nitrogen is cheaper at my field. I agree that PMI tanks are not the best, but I don't think there is anything wrong with crossfire, they are really nice tanks. And HPA is so much better for your marker there is really no comparison here. In order to setup a CO2 tank to run as well as a HPA tank (Xchamber, anti siphon, ect) you could have bought a nitro tank with the same amount of money. So why not get HPA :eyes:

[Shadow221]

Originally posted by Rebel32flanker
I don't think there is anything wrong with crossfire, they are really nice tanks.
Looks like I'm going to have to bring back my "I HATE CROSSFIRE" rant.

[Shadow221]

here we go.

Now I use a crossfire and absolutly HATE it. It's been nothing but trouble. First the output pressure was set too high from the factory so I kept blowing out burst discs. I send it in and it's fixed but when I get it back the low pressure and high pressure burst discs were switched. I didn't notcied until my low pressure disc burst again. Then my local shop didn't have the right burst discs so I had to send it in to crossfire again. I get it back and the fill nipple leaks. I tightened it as much as humanly possible, put teflon tape, everything and it STILL leaks (from the threads not from the little hole). Needless to say I'm extremely dissapointed with crossfire.

[Rebel32flanker]

Originally posted by Shadow221

Looks like I'm going to have to bring back my "I HATE CROSSFIRE" rant.

I KNOW SHADOW I have heard this at least 5 times now and it is making me crazy! :dizzy: I know that you got a bad tank, but my two friends have 88/45K tanks from crossfire and they work great, but not as well as my Center Flag, and believe me I am not saying that crossfire is the best, because that is far from true, but not all of their tanks are as bad as the one that Shadow got. I still think they are good tanks for the price.

Remember: You get what you pay for.

[iPaintball68]

wow, one bad expierence. whoop de doo. i hve a crossfire and pure energy tank. along with a agd flatline. I havnt had one problem with me PE or Crossfire tank. They arnt bad at all.

everyone has a bad story about everything.

like....... Mr. Bob, my fictional character "I bought a 75,000 doller mercedes and it doesnt work. The catalytic converter is flawed! and the engine makes funny noises!' Yet, i own a mercedes, so does my neighbers. have we had any problems? no.

see, just because one person had problems doesnt mean it sucks. do mercedes suck? do they "not work". no.

[2good4U]

INPUT PSI. Most C02 tanks are set around 900-1000psi, on a warm day it can get up to 1400psi. The BKO operates "best" with an input source set at 450-500psi...... however it will function with most preset N2 tanks (650-750psi).
If someone wants to successfully run C02 on a BKO I'd suggest 3 things........
* adjustable C02 tank reg/pin valve (CMI product)
* anti siphon
* palmers stab

[tonysk83]

Originally posted by iPaintball68
ok, lets figure this out. lets buy a anti siphon tank for 30-40 dollers. now, lets buy a palmer reg for what, 60-70? that is over 100 dollers. you can get a good nitro tank for that price

aaaa no, lets start anti sphion tank 30-40 bucks, palmers stabilizer 80, that 120, your gun will run great with this setup, but lets say you buy a 68 3000 psi steel tank instead, first off you wont get alot of shots, second its heavy. Instead of getting that nitro tank you could of got your palmer stab. and A/s co2 and later on down the road you want a nitro tank, you could buy a fiber wrapped 4500 tank and have a lighter tank and get more shots then a 48 3000 steel tank, also the palmers reg will run awesome on nitro, so there is my 2 cents