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Urban-Baller
10-08-2002, 03:20 PM
The field I was playing at uses compressed air for all their rental guns. I was talking to the guy at the pro-shop there, he says HPA is much more reliable than Co2 and generally better. I'm wondering if HPA would be a good upgrade for my 98c, will it improve performance (currently using 12 oz co2) and will I need any other upgrades besides the actual HPA bottle.
SavesTheDay
10-08-2002, 07:00 PM
hpa is an excellent upgrade, much more consistant, cleaner, a bit easier on o-rings. Alone it will improve performance, all you need is a tank at least 800 psi output, nothing else is required.
xavier678
10-08-2002, 07:48 PM
Yeah, HPA is a great upgrade. You really dont need anything new to run it off a tippy either, if you want lp you need a VA and a reg.
tonysk83
10-09-2002, 12:27 PM
yes im also saying get nitro, but if you can hardelt afford it liek a cheap 47 3000 psi tank then dont do it, the cxv valve was meant to be really co2 tolerable, if you can afford nitro get a carbon fiber tank, you WILL be happier in the long run. My cousin had a 47 3000 psi tank, for his piranha, then when he got a new gun he sold that thing as fast as he could, they are heavy and you dont get alot of shots.
xavier678
10-09-2002, 12:50 PM
yeah, definately go for a carbon fiber tank, but if you dont have the cash, a steel one isnt that bad. Sure it is heavy but you have a tippmann, you should be used to it.
Urban-Baller
10-10-2002, 04:42 AM
Can't be any heavier than a Tippmann with a 20oz Co2 on it.
SavesTheDay
10-10-2002, 08:50 AM
Until you slap a steel tank on there youll think that. Ever feel how heavy a chrome-molly co2 tank is? Theyre kind of like a huge version of that. You do usually get longer hydro dates with steel though.
Ebonclaw
10-10-2002, 09:00 AM
Actually, Carleton Cylinders (the tanks used by Crossfire) and Luxfer tanks (used by PMI) have had their hydro dates extended to 5 years, the same as steel tank.

Basically a tank company buys a cylinder from a HPA specialist company (like Carleton) and slaps their reg on it and sells it.
Urban-Baller
10-10-2002, 10:18 AM
Ok I've decided on a carbon fiber HPA tank for my tippy. I decided against nitro, since no fields in my area offer nitro fills and I don't know any other place to get nitro fills. So now I'm wondering what would be a good tank to get for my 98c.
tonysk83
10-10-2002, 12:39 PM
you are one confused dude, you are buying a carbon fiber hpa tank, which is nitro

let me recap

HPA:the air we breath, which is made up of 70% nitrogen.

Nitro(gen): Called this because it sounds cool, and you are filling up most of your tank with this


Ok now a good tank, humm, best for the price crossfire or centerflag, try to stay away from pmi and java tanks, there regs arent very good, nitro duck i have heard are nice
Urban-Baller
10-10-2002, 01:33 PM
I thought there was a difference between compressed air and nitro. Ie HPA and nitro are two different things.
-=ReD-hAzE=-
10-10-2002, 08:02 PM
they are two differant things... BUT...
very few places fill with pure nitrogen...
but a HPA tank can take both compressed air(out of any scuba tank cheap to fill)
and nitrogen(little more consistant than compressed air... but also expensive to fill)
Urban-Baller
10-11-2002, 04:19 AM
I thought there was a difference. Thanks for clearing that up.
tonysk83
10-11-2002, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by -=ReD-hAzE=-
they are two differant things... BUT...
very few places fill with pure nitrogen...
but a HPA tank can take both compressed air(out of any scuba tank cheap to fill)
and nitrogen(little more consistant than compressed air... but also expensive to fill)

details details details:D
cockermaster
10-11-2002, 08:58 AM
Man what you all talking about, saying a tippy is heavy. You have never held my autococker with all the ANS and boomstick with the nitro and 12v revvy, now thats heavy. Or a VM-68 thats a beast. Any way HPA all the way. My friend has run it on his tippy and had no problems with it.
FISHY
10-11-2002, 09:05 AM
bit off topic but how do u like area 51?
Urban-Baller
10-11-2002, 09:35 AM
How did you know I played at Area 51??? As for your question, it's great. A lot better than Sgt. Splatters, though I like Splatter's cheaper price for ammo.
FISHY
10-11-2002, 12:19 PM
cuz i live by there and i know a 51 is the only place that uses air for there rentals :D
xavier678
10-11-2002, 02:38 PM
technically nitrogen will be more consistant (very very slightly) but you will never notice a difference. slight variations in air pressure, humidity, temperature, air movement, and numerous other variables will not allow you to see an actual change.