Ex. Chamber or Anti Syphon ????

[Lord Delta]

Which works better ?

[Xander]

My gun that I just bought (Piranha STS g2) comes with a gas through grip and not a x-pansion chamber what are the differences and if they are completely different what does the gas through grip do???

[ds613]

The gas through grip is just a foregrip and that's all. I think that unless you get a really nice x chamber, anti-siphon is better.

[green_goblin]

whats the anti siphon do

[ds613]

An anti-siphon tube goes inside the co2 tank and is bent so that when the tank is screwed into your gun the opening to the tube is at the top, and since the liquid co2 is at the bottom, it doesn't go into the gun.

[green_goblin]

Oh, where can I get one of those ? Do they cost a pretty penny ?

[Lord Delta]

ds613

What do you consider a really nice expansion chamber?

I am thinking about getting a 4 stage ACI.

Any thoughts on this ex. chamber?

[elTwitcho]

6 stages are generally better. The 4 stage one from ACI is pretty good though

[Spec74]

the more chamber it has the better chance letting the CO2 expand from liquid to gas before getting into the gun

[ds613]

Originally posted by green_goblin
Oh, where can I get one of those ? Do they cost a pretty penny ?

You can get them at most paintball stores. It's better to have an airsmith install them, and they should be less than $20 installed. You have to have the gun there because they have to make sure the tube is pointing up when the tank is screwed into the gun. This means that the tank will only work with that gun unless you get it adjusted for a different gun.

I don't know that much about x chambers except how they work. More stages would be better, but I think an anti-siphon tube or a good regulator would be more effective at keeping liquid out of the gun.

[Lord Delta]

how does a regulator keep liquid co2 from getting in the gun?

[Joel Timberlake]

Originally posted by Lord Delta
how does a regulator keep liquid co2 from getting in the gun?

It doesn't.

[Lord Delta]

Joel T.
I thought that was the answer, but ds613 said an anti syphon tube or good regulator would do a better job keeping liquid co2 out of the gun. Obviously an antisyphon tube would. Was he just mistaken about what the regulator does? because a regulator is just supposed to regulate the pressure that the co2 or n2 enters the gun at.

[ds613]

Ok, sorry, I thought they did.

[FSU Paintball]

Everything depends on your gun. If you have a cocker, an anti-syphon tank should work.

Important note: If you run remote, DO NOT use an anti-syphon tank! You'll just suck liquid CO2 straight into your gun. The ONLY way to use an anti-syphon tank is with a bottomline. Imagine a straw running from your valve to a corner in the bottom of your tank. If you have it positioned correctly, the straw will be sticking up in the air, making it easy to keep liquid CO2 out. If you have it positioned wrong, the straw will be IN the liquid, causing you to suck pure liquid into your gun. You have to use it correctly.

Damn, that was a long note.

Anyways, if you have a Mag, you need an anti-syphon tank AND an expansion chamber. If you have a Spyder, a good expansion chamber is all you need. Same thing for Tippmans. Like I said, use an anti-syphon tank for cockers. In fact, I don't think you can use an expansion chamber without taking off the regulator on a cocker.

[DasBaldDog]

Actually, you can, it looks kinda weird but it can be done. In fact, I have a reg and ex chamber on my cocker right at the moment. I used a shocktech d/f to move the bottom line forward and used an old ex chamber and screwed it into the bottomline and used a guage replacement screw to keep the Co2 from leaking out of the elbow hole. Damn this is getting complicated. Shortened, it can be done.

[Imus]

crap...i installed an anti-siphon tube in my C02 tank the other day. I used a very large vise and threadlocker to put the valve on...only thing, I didn't bend the tube upwards for the bottomline setup...DOH...I hope I can get the valve off again *starts buffing up*

[Guesswho?]

I have to say the xchamber but i use both. Get both and you will be fine and dandy!