possible to install vision

[karateboy3000]

I'm buying a regular impulse from pbgear.com. And I was wondering if it is possible to buy a vision for the impulse later on and install it onto the impulse that I have right now.
Or do I have to buy a vision impulse right off from the start (If I buy an impulse vision, then I will have to stick with c02 cuz I can't afford nitro, but if I get a regular impulse, then I could get nitro.)

[thebluenu]

it costs more to upgrade later, and its more work, get it now, a impy runs fine on co2 with antisiphon

[mipaint]

It depends on where you buy it...

some of the pro shops will do vision upgrades later for the same as the difference in price now. That is, lets say you buy a marker with a free tape worm now for $420, if you add vision now it may be $150 more. many dealers will charge you a lot more to upgrade later (if they upgrade at all) However there are some that will upgrade guns purchesed from them to Vision at a later date for the same $150 difference.

Something else you should think very hard about. The vertical reg. We see lots of fokes every day whanting to upgrade their bottom reg guns to vertical reg guns. I would HIGHLY recomend you just get a vertical reg gun from the get go. Also there are some pro shops that offer the guns with installed packages like a blade trigger and tapeworm or blade trigger and LPR at very resionable prices- and it's all done for you so you don't have to take apart your brand new gun

hope this helps

FOM

[karateboy3000]

Couldn't co2 screw up the internals of the impulse because of c02 being dirty? Thats the whole reason I'm afraid of sticking with co2.

Also, would the vision be worth it? I'm not playing anything professional. I'm a local player. Would the exra 135 dollars for the vision would be worth it? Or would the revvy take care of everything? (12v xboard) When I'm shooting at like 10-12bps would there be chances I would still chop?

[Dravion]

Originally posted by DasBaldDog

As for my co2 filter, I have opened my flo many times over the past year and a half having put over 50000 rnds through it and NEVER had to clean the filter.


the co2 will mass throught he MaxFlow, it has a filter in it, if the CO2 in your area is relativly clean (please note that I said relativly, that does not mean that co2 is clean in any way, just comapired to some of the bulk tanks out there) then you won't have a problem if you have it anti-siphoned. And seeing as the co2 runs aroun 180or so in the gun, at that pressure, liquid CO2 doesn't exsist (that was a quote too, but I'm not gona try to find that one too).

Hope that helps

[karateboy3000]

ok, to clear things up... I need to get a 12v revvy with an x board... an impulse (or bushmaster) and a nitro tank. I only have 620 dollars. This is the entire reason why I'm not getting vision with nitro. I'm trying to let other people know that my budget for paintballing isn't fitting some suggestions (i.e. vertical reg)

[Dravion]

Well, you did specifically ask about co2 screwing up the internals b/c co2 was dirty, but yeah, I guess we shouldn't answer your questions.

[karateboy3000]

No, I didn't mean it by that way, its just that most people suggest to me that I should get more expensive guns instead and with a kapp drop zone II or whatever because its better. And to prevent something liek that to happen, I'm letting the fact be known that I have limited money.

[Dravion]

K, well, I'm letting you know that a co2 tank is cheaper, and safe with a Max Flow, and that there will virtually be no liquid in the gun. Trust me, I'm in the same boat, I'm trying to get a Impulse, I need a new 12v (the motor is messed in mine, and the shells are breaking) and I need a co2 tank with an on/off and anti-siphon. I don't plan on spending more than 600 on my impulse.

[thebluenu]

i belive the max flow has a filter on it....

[karateboy3000]

Ok, thanks for the information. Just a few more questions.

What will then be the differences between HPA and c02 if there is no liquid co2 in the gun. Wouldnt' c02 work a lot like hpa with the maxflo?

Also, is it still possibe to chop when shooting at a max of 12 bps with a 12v revvy with x board (13 bps). Because I definitely can't shoot faster than 13... even if I fan (yes im slow, for those of you quick firin cowboys)
Cuz if so, then I might not even need a vision... yet.

[Dravion]

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91833

That's a link about shockers and co2, but most of it is talking about the max flow, not really the shocker. there's some good info in there. Personally, I'd listen to all of the Das posts, and no, not becuase he's my captain, but because he's a max flow tech and knows his ****.

I think he's trying to discourage me from buying an Imp. :eyes:

[mipaint]

OK-- Hers some advive you may or may not want to take...

First-- forget the Vision and the 12 v revy. Get a Halo B. The Halo B will most likly elimate your need for vision and its only costing you about $50 because you were going to buy a revy to start with.

Get and Impulse with a vertical reg and get one of the package deals like the "collage package" which includes the gun, blade trigger, vertical reg, and LPR all for under $500 add the Halo B to it and you are at $600 for a true turny ready package.

FOM

[Dravion]

I was gona say something about that.

[hawk2140]

go with vertical reg, at www.buypb.com you can get a vertical reg impulse for 444.44 (with shipign) thats what i got mine fore. and you could also get crossfire 68/45 fantastic recharge rate from www.ontoppaintball.com for 189(with out shipping) thats about 635. so maybe save a bit more. or you could go with the vert impy(444) vision (150) and antisiphoned co2(50) unless you already have a tank then its not that much. that = to 594 not including the anti siphon. but if you do already have a tank then ad about another 20 bux. and there you go great gun.

[karateboy3000]

Hawk... good suggestion, but theres one problem. I have a stupid pos VL200 and if I buy a revvy, I'll end up with 700+. And I still need to have 50 dollars left over (splitting it up wit friend for scuba)

Also, mipaint... love your suggestion, but can you give me a link to where I might find a Halo B for 50 bucks and that "collage package"? Oh yeah, I still need a nitro tank... so If I have 600 dollars then add 175 for nitro tank and 50 for scuba.... its 825...

Sorry im being so strict, but I'm not too rich for paintball. (take it easy on me... im only 16)

[Dravion]

ok, now it alllll makes sense. You need a nitro b/c you and your friend are getting a scuba tank and so yeah. lol, you should have said that at first. Basically, let me look over all this again. correct me if I'm wrong, you have 620 bucks. You want to buy an Impulse, a hopper, and a tank. And that's all?

Impulse - 400
Impulse w/ vert reg - 444.99
12v Revy - 50-55
Halo-B - 90-100
68/3k - 120
68/45k - 180
45/45k - 190
|____on-off adaptor 20
anti-siphon 20 oz co2 w/ on/off - 30

mix and match!!

that's like 530 for a regular impulse, a halo b (you won't need a vision with this ever) and a 20 co2 tank

that's your cheapest way to go

[Skog]

karateboy3000, the link to the shop that mipaint OWNS(which gives away free tapeworms with stock imps, gives vision upgrades for $150 and sells the college package etc) is http://www.e-paintballoutlet.com

one thing though, their site is a little messed up so it may be a good idea to phone them as they will be able to give you answers to any other questions you have