paintball has a rival.....

[littlejerry]

Wow, I found something quite similar to paintball, but better! This is my new "paintballgun". It shoots 6mm pellets or paintballs! It is a MP5 A5, and the pistol is a Glock 17. Both are mine. I shoot about 10 rounds per second and close to 350 FPS. I can nail guys at 200 feet with this bad boy, and 100 feet with my pistol! You guys wana know more, email me. http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/littlejerry061901095722mp5a5.jpg

[Richy_C]

That's not paintball, thats airsoft, the oppiste of paintball where a war affect is desired, unlike paintball which desires sportsmanship, ability, challenge and fun. It's nowhere near paintball in popularity, or fun, considering the objective is to hurt, not to have fun.

[littlejerry]

Um, no. The object is to use tactics and teamwork as in a real life situation. Basicaly paintball with more realism. Not popular in the US cuz NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT! In Japan, where most guns are made, it is huge, people just need to see it in the US, it is much better than paintball.

[Richy_C]

But you are posting this on a paintball site, and it's not paintball. Real life situations eh? Well paintball in no way needs these so called real life situiations, because we are a sport based on things like cature the flag, Sup air, Hyperball and speedball. No one is intrested in real life here, thats why we play paintball, to get away from real life. If the objective in airsoft is to use tactics and teamwork, and not create war, then why do you use replicas of real weopons, designed to slaughter humans, steal life and cause pain? Really doesn't sound better then paintball to me.

[littlejerry]

What do you think paintball is smarts? Shooting people! If you dont like the idea of getting shot or shooting people, then why do you play paintball, airsoft is a more "advanced" type of paintball. You must learn to conzerve ammo, learn to actualy aim, instinctualy aim, reload quickly, use real to life tactics. We play cap the flag in airsoft, hostage resque, team elimonation, cap the base, expand your territory, survival, and lots of other extreamly fun games. I used to play pball then i saw this, and im realy pissed that i wasted so much money on pball before i found out about this.

[blake_sw]

Airsoft is too easy to cheat in. Is that MP5 made by Tokyo Marui? I know quite a bit about Airsoft, or atleast I used to.

[littlejerry]

Yea, its a TM. Its not a pic of my gun, but mine is identicle, even the red dot sight! And i even have the same TM spring glock in the pic. People in airosft dont cheat, and shame on them if they do. Airsoft is seomthing you play with friends.

[Xander]

that looks damn cool but paintballing is better because... you know

[Richy_C]

Paintball is not simply shooting each other for the hell of it, airsoft is, why are you saying airsoft rules paintball on a paintball site, thats like a mountain biker posting on a motorcross site. You keep on talking about real life tactics, WE DON"T USE THEM!!! We use paintball tactice, imagine that. And if your objective is not to hurt, then why do you have a 350 fps gun witha smaller load then a paintball, thats gonna hurt like hell, so why not turn it down? Because you want to hurt the others thats why, you're not doing it for fun, you're doing it to emulate killing, pain and hurt, everything paintball is not. Airsoft advanced paintball? Is it now? do airsoft player play on $7800.00 fields? Use 450 nitro systems? achieve 16 RPS with out full auto? I think I may be missing your logic here.

[teammagma1]

I completely agree with your views on airsoft, but contrary to popular belief, it isn't possible to achieve 16 bps in semiauto mode

[whiteknight9000]

The only reason its not popular in the US is becuase of the price. A nice gun can cost up to $500 and most people dont have that kind of money. In paintball there are low end guns(talon, stingray, spyder) but in airsoft the only low end gun is called a "mini" and it is the biggest piece of **** you could buy and you certainly couldnt play with it against other guns. Also people would cheat like a bit** in it because there are no marks and sometimes if the range is far you cant even feel it.

[iipaintballer]

If I can add a bit to this disscussion. Airsoft and Paintball are different sports. However, they are very similar. The ideals behind the sports are very similar. The way you play is also very similar. Capture the flag, defend and conquer, etc. People even play airsoft on paintball fields.

The rules are almost identical. If you get hit, you are out. Just like paintball. The only difference is, airsoft bbs dont leave a splat, so... complete honor sport.

The purpose of airsoft is not to hurt. The object is to play a sport similar to paintball with more realism. I am not saying more or less realism is better or worse, just saying it has more realism.

Richy... just to point out. What you are saying about airsoft is very similar to how people who dont understand paintball also describe paintball. WE all know that paintball is not a sport to cause pain or emulate killing, but airsoft is not either. Also, airsoft players also have high end guns as well. There is a replica airsoft m-60 that runs almost 1000 dollars, stock. These airsoft guns can shoot upto 400-450 fps. And with full auto electric guns. However, safety is just as important. People wear paintball goggles when they play. Yes bbs hurt, but just about as much as paintballs do. A smaller round= lighter = donesnt hurt as much.

If you guys have any additional question, let me know, we can talk off topic or pm, but just to add additioanl persepective... airsoft is a growing sport that is very similar to paintball.

[littlejerry]

iipaintballer has the best responce out of all of these. Richy C sounds like some damn ignorant hick afraid of change. The reason why i am informing people of this sport is because it is better, in my opinion and many others. I know i got so pissed off when i realized how much money i blew on paintball before i knew about paintball. Im trying to keep that from happending to others. Now for what i have seen. Everyone i know that has played airsoft loves it, more than pball. I convinced 7 friends this past week to get airsoft guns. And you know what the beauty is? you can play indoors, in your house, garage, backyard, kitchen, or anywhere else cuz the bb's have close to no mass at all, so they dont break stuff, they sting, but dont leave you hurting for a week like a pball. That is why we use high fps guns in airsoft, cuz we can, and it makes it easier to shoot someone! Not to hurt other people! Everyone i know has been pleased with airsoft, and switched over to it form pball.

[iipaintballer]

little jerry,

on another note, I also agree with Richy on the fact that I dont think it is appropriate for you to post here on that topic. I like airsoft as well, but, I think you need to keep that on the off topic forum on this site.

[littlejerry]

Im just trying to help others, and since this is related to paintball, i put it here on the general topic forum. Airsoft is like paintballs big brother that kicks ***.

[Richy_C]

Calling me ignorant is very ignorant your self. I know a ton about airsoft, and in my closet i have some no name pump airsoft gun,I used to play, but i realized what the people who were playing wanted, and I came to despize it. Calling me afraid of change? really now, I switched my favorite forums to here without bother, I have no regrets about selling my old markers, and I'm no hick. I just graduated froms a 15k a year k-8 school, so don't call me primative. You say you are informing people that thier favorite sport, which they spent thosands of dollars playing was a complete waste, I don't like being told my sport is 2nd bythis other sport which I used to play, and i switched for a reason.

[Mmadill]

Rich is also a Mod

Have some soup

http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/Mmadill061901121845creamof.jpg

[Xpert Rifleman]

Since I am going to be training with alot of Airsoft guns in the Marines, I was looking into the game online. I think Airsoft has a huge safty problem. In the Marines we have Close Quarter Combat helmets and face shields to protect us against the bb's. In the game Airsoft people use Paintball masks. Airsoft rounds go faster then 300fps, which is the limit of a Paintball mask. I know the bb's are smaller, and Paintball masks can take up to a shotgun blast to the lense, but I still think that Airsoft should have it's own safty gear. Just a thought.

[Jordan]

but its not paintball...go to an airsoft forum and post this or like ii said offtopic...paintball guns cant shoot bb's and is SORTof like paintball but its not so post elsewhere...and u having that on ur sig. doesnt really make sense because its not a pb gun...thats like me putting i have a tv on my sig.

[Xander]

WTF is up with your bragging that you airsoft gun can go above 350 fps my friends tippman custom 98 and go that fast but we don't play at that speed because it is unsafe!! So stop bragging you idiot!!!!!!!!!:)

[iipaintballer]

Originally posted by Xpert Rifleman
Paintball masks can take up to a shotgun blast to the lense,

Airsoft bbs dont shoot as fast or as hard as shotgun. Paintball has a limit on the velocity in games of max 285-300fps. However, the mask can take hits at greater fps than that though. paintball masks for airsoft is appropriate.

[Richy_C]

Heh, i turned the Vl adjuster on my AIR to high and i cannnon shot 476 bavy, I was like ho ****!

[DasBaldDog]

Well, I can say this. Not raggin on airsoft but when people purchase $1000 (I think you said that m-60 was) they expect to win. I can bet that atleast once during each airsoft game, 1 (if only 1) person cheats intentionally. Also I attend the university of Memphis and I play paintball on a scholarship. Now the adminstration allows me to have my paintball gear in my dorm cause it is not considered a firearm. The TN government states that a firearm is "a machine, tool or device that moves an untethered projectile faster than 400 fps." Now from what you said Jerry, an airsoft gun is a firearm in TN and I would need a state permit to carry and I could not keep it in my dorm.

Beyond that, in paintball we are trying to move away from the guerilla look. People are beginning to stop wearing camo clothes and making flamboyant markers that look ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE real guns. Do you honestly think we can legitimize the sport any by carrying around H&K Tactical USP's? I just happen to own a REAL bullet firing T-USP and it was designed for one purpose, to kill whatever it was fired at. I use it for self-protection but that DOES NOT alleve me of the original purpose which I have to accept. In the heat of the moment, do you think you would have time to recognize if the gun had that little orange buttom near the front? No, I think not. However you can tell if the gun has front pneumatics, a crome back block, a Dye Boomstick, a drop-foward and even a Big@$$ nitro tank.

Once again, I'm not against airsoft but I am against arrogent little snotheads that come in and make asinine assumptions about my sport and then attempt to belittle while hiding behind the defense of having a better sport that promotes a violent and dangerous image. THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GLOCK AND A AUTOCOCKER, but how do you tell the difference between a glock and a glock airsoft gun upon first glance?
So Jerry, you're logic is massively flawed, you haven' thought the argument out, so until you do ....... SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

[DraXsuS]

Originally posted by DasBaldDog
Well, I can say this. Not raggin on airsoft but when people purchase $1000 (I think you said that m-60 was) they expect to win. I can bet that atleast once during each airsoft game, 1 (if only 1) person cheats intentionally. Also I attend the university of Memphis and I play paintball on a scholarship. Now the adminstration allows me to have my paintball gear in my dorm cause it is not considered a firearm. The TN government states that a firearm is "a machine, tool or device that moves an untethered projectile faster than 400 fps." Now from what you said Jerry, an airsoft gun is a firearm in TN and I would need a state permit to carry and I could not keep it in my dorm.

Beyond that, in paintball we are trying to move away from the guerilla look. People are beginning to stop wearing camo clothes and making flamboyant markers that look ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE real guns. Do you honestly think we can legitimize the sport any by carrying around H&K Tactical USP's? I just happen to own a REAL bullet firing T-USP and it was designed for one purpose, to kill whatever it was fired at. I use it for self-protection but that DOES NOT alleve me of the original purpose which I have to accept. In the heat of the moment, do you think you would have time to recognize if the gun had that little orange buttom near the front? No, I think not. However you can tell if the gun has front pneumatics, a crome back block, a Dye Boomstick, a drop-foward and even a Big@$$ nitro tank.

Once again, I'm not against airsoft but I am against arrogent little snotheads that come in and make asinine assumptions about my sport and then attempt to belittle while hiding behind the defense of having a better sport that promotes a violent and dangerous image. THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GLOCK AND A AUTOCOCKER, but how do you tell the difference between a glock and a glock airsoft gun upon first glance?
So Jerry, you're logic is massively flawed, you haven' thought the argument out, so until you do ....... SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

YOU GO GIRL!! i mean boy

[Richy_C]

Originally posted by DasBaldDog
Well, I can say this. Not raggin on airsoft but when people purchase $1000 (I think you said that m-60 was) they expect to win. I can bet that atleast once during each airsoft game, 1 (if only 1) person cheats intentionally. Also I attend the university of Memphis and I play paintball on a scholarship. Now the adminstration allows me to have my paintball gear in my dorm cause it is not considered a firearm. The TN government states that a firearm is "a machine, tool or device that moves an untethered projectile faster than 400 fps." Now from what you said Jerry, an airsoft gun is a firearm in TN and I would need a state permit to carry and I could not keep it in my dorm.

Beyond that, in paintball we are trying to move away from the guerilla look. People are beginning to stop wearing camo clothes and making flamboyant markers that look ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE real guns. Do you honestly think we can legitimize the sport any by carrying around H&K Tactical USP's? I just happen to own a REAL bullet firing T-USP and it was designed for one purpose, to kill whatever it was fired at. I use it for self-protection but that DOES NOT alleve me of the original purpose which I have to accept. In the heat of the moment, do you think you would have time to recognize if the gun had that little orange buttom near the front? No, I think not. However you can tell if the gun has front pneumatics, a crome back block, a Dye Boomstick, a drop-foward and even a Big@$$ nitro tank.

Once again, I'm not against airsoft but I am against arrogent little snotheads that come in and make asinine assumptions about my sport and then attempt to belittle while hiding behind the defense of having a better sport that promotes a violent and dangerous image. THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GLOCK AND A AUTOCOCKER, but how do you tell the difference between a glock and a glock airsoft gun upon first glance?
So Jerry, you're logic is massively flawed, you haven' thought the argument out, so until you do ....... SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.


WORD!!!!!

[Congobongo]

first woopdy doo if your airsoft gun can shoot 350fps and up, wow! I just hafta take my little velocity adjuster, screw it in tighter and bam! it goes 450. Oh ya people can find airsoft stuff easily if they wanted to so you are not "showing them the light" of airsoft. I have my own gas blowback berreta i bought for target practice so i dont hafta waste paint that costs alot, so i to have an airsoft gun. Also for pballers, like someone said, we are trying to get away from the image that people put on us saying that we are gonna bring real guns to school and shoot our fellow classmates because pballing tought us how.

[ZacT26]

DOWN WITH AIRSOFT
DOWN WITH AIRSOFT
UP WITH PAINTBALL!!!!! W007

[Xpert Rifleman]

He has a point, one of the main selling points of the good Airsoft guns is how real it looks. If you and ten of your friends are walking from someones house to the woods accross the street decked out in SWAT gear, this would frighten more then a few people. In fact if I ever saw this, I would probably pull out my REAL Remington 870 12gauge and call the police.

[FAKE NAVY SEAL]

OK, the fake seal has some knowledge on this situation.


First of all a stock tokyo marui AEG MP5-A5 will top out at 280fps. If u wanna shoot higher u have to buy a new spring, but to support that new spring u have to buy metal bushing, a reinforced mechbox, and systema gears. You will also have to do a mod to the gun so that it can take a 9.6 V battery needed to sustain a high rate of fire with that upgraded spring.

Airsoft guns are so much less accurate then paintball guns. I know cause i have both. Even if they shoot harder, which they dont stock, the bbs are so light that they fly all over the place. At long ranges you cant even feel the things. IT is very likely that when crashing through the field at a full sprint somone would honestly not even feel the impact.

I was very into airsoft before and i know that everyone wants there gun to look real. Most people take off the orange ring near the front right when they get it. That is the ones that arent siezed by customs officers.

Airsoft is ok but they arent as accurate, safe, or practical to play with as pball guns are.

peace,

FNS

[flyingdeadbody1]

Originally posted by DasBaldDog
Well, I can say this. Not raggin on airsoft but when people purchase $1000 (I think you said that m-60 was) they expect to win. I can bet that atleast once during each airsoft game, 1 (if only 1) person cheats intentionally. Also I attend the university of Memphis and I play paintball on a scholarship. Now the adminstration allows me to have my paintball gear in my dorm cause it is not considered a firearm. The TN government states that a firearm is "a machine, tool or device that moves an untethered projectile faster than 400 fps." Now from what you said Jerry, an airsoft gun is a firearm in TN and I would need a state permit to carry and I could not keep it in my dorm.

Beyond that, in paintball we are trying to move away from the guerilla look. People are beginning to stop wearing camo clothes and making flamboyant markers that look ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE real guns. Do you honestly think we can legitimize the sport any by carrying around H&K Tactical USP's? I just happen to own a REAL bullet firing T-USP and it was designed for one purpose, to kill whatever it was fired at. I use it for self-protection but that DOES NOT alleve me of the original purpose which I have to accept. In the heat of the moment, do you think you would have time to recognize if the gun had that little orange buttom near the front? No, I think not. However you can tell if the gun has front pneumatics, a crome back block, a Dye Boomstick, a drop-foward and even a Big@$$ nitro tank.

Once again, I'm not against airsoft but I am against arrogent little snotheads that come in and make asinine assumptions about my sport and then attempt to belittle while hiding behind the defense of having a better sport that promotes a violent and dangerous image. THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GLOCK AND A AUTOCOCKER, but how do you tell the difference between a glock and a glock airsoft gun upon first glance?
So Jerry, you're logic is massively flawed, you haven' thought the argument out, so until you do ....... SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

NICE!!!!I like that argument!!!

[Boge]

I appreciate him letting me know about these types of guns. One thing I've always complained about is the design of pball guns. I think these guns are designed pretty sweet and I'd much rather have one of those if it didn't hurt as much. But I think everyone on this discussion needs to open their minds a little. This is all about an oppinion. Some people like Paintball, and some people like other things.

[angeleyes]

c'mon jerry, how much of a ******* can you be....you know that when you go into a pball forum and diss pball your gonna get *****ed at...and by the way pball makes airsoft its *****!!!!!!

[krasher]

I don't like the system airsoft works on, and you can't feel the bbs at far ranges. At close ranges the little *******s hurt :D

[blake_sw]

Why are people saying that airsoft is more expensive? It's not, check out http://www.dentrinity.com and check out the prices for yourself. Oh ya, I love paintball, not airsoft :)

[Snyper731]

You guys are to critical of airsoft. Its even borderlin hypocricy. We play paintball and a whole big section of people see us as "simulating war" and "shooting people for the heck of it" and now these same paintballers who have heard those kind of statements turn on airsoft people with the same lines! Thats disgraceful. I still like paintball better tho!!!!

[Richy_C]

not really, Ive been on the inside, alot of these guys want war, not fun

[ry_goody]

I own a Tokyo Mauri M4A1 and Autococker. I have alot of money in both of my guns and I think playing both games is fun. Here in Oregon we have lots of pb fields and we also have a club that plays airsoft like every other week at a chosen spot. I play both paintball and airsoft alot and as often as I can so I think I have some word in this.

Airsoft is like Rainbow Six, it has its occasional moments, it is fun now and then, but generally its too slow to have alot of adrenaline rushes. Painbtall is like Counter-strike, its alot faster moving, a bit more of an adrelaline rush. Since paintball moves a bit faster I would rather play that over airsoft. But I still enjoy dressing up in my camo and sneaking through a forest all stealthily with a M4A1 and then wipe out the other team with a gun that shoots 18 rouns per second at dead on accuracy.

But those BB's don't hurt, I mean if you get hit on bare skin it kinda stings... but everyone in airsoft wears long sleeve camo and stuff so that doesn't happen. Since they don't hurt it's just kinda like ho hum, whatever when you get hit. Its not like paintball where you can't get hit because your gonna be hurting afterwards. So its not as much of a adrenaline rush, its more like stay down in the trench and you have more fund being stealthy and sneaking up on the guys then actually shooting them.

In paintball the major fun comes when you tag a guy out, here em cussing and saying "damn that hurts" and your like "hu hu hu hu I got him". Running into a warehouse shooting my cocker and knowing that if you get hit your not gonna brush it off just a second later. So you get more adrenaline and can run faster to dodge the paintballs and stuff. Were I play airsoft bunkering someone just wouldn't happen cause your in deep forests and can't run.

[tsr]

i agree, i'm getting tired of the camo clothes (except for hopper, tank holder) ... realistic looking paintball guns. It just gives a bad image that paintball is like some violent sport... paintball markers shouldn't even look like real guns.. it should be totally different considering paintball is entering mainstream more and more every month. < and that's a good thing, more newbie bashing.. =) >

[terpsare1]

airsoft seems like a sport for military wannabes. They seem like the guys that wanna be a SEAL or Ranger or whatever but don't have the b@!!$ to do it for real.

[Tower3003]

Originally posted by terpsare1
airsoft seems like a sport for military wannabes. They seem like the guys that wanna be a SEAL or Ranger or whatever but don't have the b@!!$ to do it for real.

I agree somewhat. Why do you need a one of one scale of a MP5? I wouldn't go as far as saying everyone that uses one wants to be in the military, but using one is an accident waiting to happen. I could just see someone walking down the street, or in there backyard, and some neighbor freeks out and calls the police. Also, this isn't a "rival" for paintball. It's a un-safe mimic for people that have played one too many video games, or have seen alot of John Wayne movies. I personly don't see this going anywere, paintball is heading in the other direction.

[Tower3003]

Originally posted by tsr
i agree, i'm getting tired of the camo clothes (except for hopper, tank holder) ... realistic looking paintball guns. It just gives a bad image that paintball is like some violent sport... paintball markers shouldn't even look like real guns.. it should be totally different considering paintball is entering mainstream more and more every month. < and that's a good thing, more newbie bashing.. =) >

Have you played woods before?! Look, I'm am sick and tired of people bashing cammo. It's not going away, so get over it! Most pro's wore it before inflatable feilds showed up. I play woods all the time, and cammo DOES help. My freind had worn a blue coat and red hat one day, and got wasted. Next time he showed up in cammo, and it kept him hidden well enough. Maybe the woods your playing in isn't dense, I don't know. Just learn to accept it, it's not going away, and whining isn't going to get you anywere. Also, if it's so bad for the sport, how come Paintball mags got articles saying it's good and fun? The only thing that I think should be banned is red fill paint. It can cause panic and ruin a game. Anyway, just don't bash rec, cammo, or backyard play, it's how we start, well all be playing on your inflatable feilds soon enough.

[terpsare1]

hasnt anyone heard of cops shooting kids because they had a gun look alike. Especially if you take the orange part off. Its looks real, and all the cop knows is that this guy is carrying an MP5 or a glock and is wearing combat clothes. Especially if you start shooting it at stuff.

[Hatebreed]

Wouldn't a bb going at 350 fps hurt someone $70 mask? Or do you guys not wear em and hope you dont get shot there?

[DasBaldDog]

Dude, it's not a real metal BB, it's a soft foam.

[Hatebreed]

oh... well i still think paintball is better

[Imus]

Listen here
First of all, let's get the facts sorted out.
AIRSOFT IS CHEAPER THAN PAINTBALL
As illustrated
~~ Good Paintballs per 2000 = $60
~~ Good Airsoft BB's per 7000 = $25
~~ In terms of gun prices you can get a decent airsoft gun, say an Full-Auto MP5-SD3 Electric for 300 as compared to a decent paintball gun, say an Autococker, 315. You get a better deal on Airsoft guns also because you don't have to add very many aftermarkert upgrades to them and you don't have to buy an expensive air system to have them run well.

[Prices taken from http://www.iisports.com]
Alright enough of that

Contrary to what some of y'all seem to be insinuating, there is a place for airsoft. There are people out there who may want or have wanted in the past to be in the army or a similar organization. They want the realisim. Personally, I'll take paintball over airsoft because it's all they play here in Texas and partly because it's more fun. But there are a certain class of people out there who want a realistic war experiance. Who cares if they are out there for a war-like experiance. That's just their nature and what they enjoy. That doesn't make it wrong and if you think it's wrong to do that in a controlled environment like airsoft, regulated by such things as mask and plastic BB's, then you're the freak. You can't tell me that you never played cops and robbers or cowboys and indians as a kid. I think airsoft is just an advanced version, making good on all those desires in a safe and fun way. Don't diss Airsoft cuz people want to pretend they're in a war.

I agree with y'all on there being potential conflicts with the realisim of all this, but the abuse of this realisim is the fault of the individual owners and not a fault of the sport. I belive airsoft will soon address this issue and begin to stress the importance of preventing incidents like kids running down the streets with these things from happening for the sake of preserving their sport.

It's a personal preference thing guys. One is not better than the other and one is not inherently "worse" in terms of safety and detriment to society than the other.

I believe airsoft has the potential to be a greater threat to society, but it's not at the moment and I see a future for it because the people who play and enjoy it are going to try to keep these potentialy dangerous activities (running around in public with these things, showing police officers how real you look with them) from occuring for the sake of the sport being able to continue.


[Edited by Imus on 06-22-2001 at 02:06 AM]

[abeaucha]

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I agree with whoever said it is pathetic that paintballers get ripped on for simulating war, then turn around and dis airsoft people for the same things. I ordered a mini electric airsoft for 20 bucks so I can play inside. I will not bring it outside to often even thogh it is 1/3 scale. Airsoft is not really as fun as paintball unless played in a small area. I think airsoft rocks and all but realisticly it is just a cheap substitute for paintball. Paintball can be played inside to with the foam paintballs/lazerballs. In summary If you already have a gun and you want to play inside buy foam paintballs. Airsoft is the best you gonna do for 30 bucks and being all set for. Airsoft vs. brass eagle would be a better comparison in my opinion.

[FireViper]

Here's My take on it; play which ever one(or both) if you want I prefer paintball and if you're whining about realistic pbguns here http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/4608/paintindex.html; about the speed I'm not sure what makes a pbgun a firearm here in the US but I read on warpig that in Canada any pbgun above 500fps is a firearm. It doesn't matter how fast it can go it's how good you can play within the rules hell I switched to Nitro because I wanted to stop the irregularities of my speed one minute it was 260 next it was 320. About paintball being more expensive than airsoft that's fine golf is more expensive that putt-putt; surfing (or snowboarding) to skateboarding that doesn't stop people from enjoying them all

[jfoust]

airsoft is a croc, all those airsofts guys have a closet full of clothes all of which were bought at the army navy store, the buy airsoft guns and play airsoft because the guns look real and its "like war" to them, and thats what they want, war. but they wont join the army or they are just neo-nazi freaks

[P@i/\/tb@LL_F|2e/\k]

Airsoft sux.....ever seen the idiots who play??? they don't get bruises...they get welts....HUGE UGLY WELTS.....it is SICK

[Ded]

ok, i have a pretty bad view on the "sport" of course when i first started playing paintball i didn't think it should be called a sport and i thought that anyone who spent over 100 dollars on their gun and used anything but BE paint was CRAZY but i believe now that paintball is a very safe and fun SPORT that is very different from military experiences. Airsoft, i don't like. It seems very dangerous at close ranges and even the manufacturers say it will break the skin at 20 feet or less. So there, i have a whole thread i posted in the OFF TOPIC forum for those of you who actually use it for what it is meant to be used for and don't post clearly off topic discussions in the general section. It is here http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=9629 and i may have come on a bit strong in the opening post but have in mind that i had just found out what airsoft was like 2 minutes prior so check it out and reply if you like.

[paintballer56]

those look like real guns and probably will be banned if it ocntinues

[NickR]

airsoft is cheaper in the long run, better because you dont have the little snotty *** newbies who are dumb ***'s and causde trouble in it. It is also fun weather you like it or not to carry around a MP5 A5 and shoot some poor ******* with a M16. Its not about charging and flinging plastic everywhere, its about thinking and planing ahead! 5 people can destroy a group of 20-30 if its planed corectly. And we like the realism of having to reload. We also like the idea of carrying around our favorite real world gun, i dont care if you think thats *** or what ever, but what the hell do you think video games like 007 and Delta Force are about. We just get outside to play our games, and they are more fun and realistic. Plus there is the added fun of the high velocity. It means better range and easier to shoot someone at longer range. And no you retard, 400fps is extreamly rare, no american companies will upgrade your gun to that, the most in America that i see is only 350fps, and thats usualy the max at big games. Its very rare to find a cheater in the airsoft crowd cuz all of us out here are responsible law following citizens, we dont have dip **** 12 year olds running around with out masks or barrel plugs on. The whole point of this post wasnt to bellitle paintball, it was to inform others about airsoft before they made a mistake similar to mine. I am pissed that i blew $300 + on paintball before i found out about airsoft. And by the way, the guns are very reliable. They are made of plastic because that costs a whole lot less! Your can buy metal ones for even less than the plastic ones! And hell, if you want, you can play in your house, i do it alot. And you dont have to go and spend 200 some dollars on a big gun, my first was only $45! It was my Glock 17, i still have it today, and i have a bretta 92F that i let my buds borrow, it was only $15! So, if you people wernt so damn afraid of change, then you might see the beafits of airsoft, the only down side is the whole cops part but that has never caused a problem and WONT cause a problem if you are on private property that you or your friend owns!

[abeaucha]

Ha yeah its cheaper, but do you get different modes of fire, do you get the the thrill of bunkering someone, do you get to see paint dripping off the guy you just shot, do you get national tournaments, do you get to target practice and see what you shot. NO NO NONONONONONONONONONO. Instead you bleed when shot, instead you dont use correct protective gear, instead you get no adrenaline, instead you have no idea where shots are going. Are u accepted at fields probably not. blahahahahaha just a cheap imitation for people who want to play paintball but do not have the balls to run to a bunker. YOU KNOW WHAT AIRSOFT IS, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE SNIPERS. HAHAHAHAH. Camo hahahahah.You cant even play airsoft in Canada. MINI electrics are the coolest airsoft guns! You use full auto cause you cant even be a sniper right. Go find an airsoft forum if there are any. I would rather play laser tag than airsoft. Your just sissies who want to play paintball but dont have the guts to get shot at. Youre just sissies who want to be in the army but dont have the guts. You wish you could play paintball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Billionare]

Airsoft, a little kids fix after watching the sixth day and longing to be just like arnold. Paintball is for the sportsMEN. Real men play it for the glory of the victory, to see your paintball open up on an opponent tagging him out of the game. Proving that your team is the best at that particular tournament. You like airsoft, great, you are the only one here who does. I play paintball because I outgrew bb guns. I'm glad to see an ignorant player leave the sport of paintball. I hope airsoft will take away all the morons and leave paint to us intellectuals. So remove your ex-paintball playing a$$ from our website and don't ever come back. And try not to get yourself shot buy any law enforcement while playing with your toy guns. When you grow up, you will look back on this thread and wonder how you could have ever been so stupid and so young. When the itch in your crotch begins and the hair starts to grow and you mature a little more everyday, you will sell your toys and live like a responsible, sensable adult. Untill then, stop waisting space on the best website the internet has to offer. Richy, Twich, anybody, close this thread for the benefit of all mankind!

[terpsare1]

no, please dont close the thread. i want to see how militia/militant pyschos think. they are just marine wannabes.

[sniper1rfa]

i am now officially going to leave paintball and go wimper in a corner because three guys with integrally silenced m-16 A2 assault rifles (at least thats what it seems like) are stalking my ***. do you realize that a .22 travels at 550-600 fps. some airsoft guns will shoot that fast, dont tell me you wont feel it, even if they do wiegh 2 grams. and also, do you know that riot control guns (rubber bullets or bean-bags) are airsofts brother. sure, they arent lethal, but they hurt like a ****ing *****. and, there have been many a kid that has a gun-look-alike that has been fatally shot by a cop. many were airsoft, and many of those innocent kids were just plinkin cans. how does that make you feel, your little toys have indirectly cause many fatalities. you know that 6 permanent injuries were directly caused by a paintball gun, since 1990. i dont mind those kids who play cops and robbers, but ADULTS, mature ****ing adults! i cannot believe that mature adults will go out and buy replica weapons to go and shoot people. i can understand why it would be fun, but i dont understand the sick ****ing minds that are behind 1/1 scale replicas of desert eagle fifties. there are exact replicas of both long and short barrel desert eagle fifties, .357's and 44 magnums. bot the long and short versions of the m-16 a2 series. they are EXACT COPIES. sorry, but i think many of you people are sick. i know some respectable people who are into airsoft, but they are all in the military and they all do it to keep themselves sharp. i feel military training is the only acceptable place for airsoft. if you guys whant real, go join the military and get your *** shot off for real. then you will know how dumb it is to simulate that kind of ****.

[toadman7b22]

.22 go at around 800 FPS dip
and tell me a airsoft gun that goes that fast

[Richy_C]

Ok, i'm going to request this thread be closed

[sniper1rfa]

sorry, i lost my temper and forgot. i realized like 2 min later.

[NickR]

airsoft has everything that paintball does and more, except for the thing with paintballs breaking on you. I never thought you guys would be so ignorant and freek out at this, i mean it, god damn! You guys are freaking out about this stuff, what is with you? And no, airsoft isnt hiding all the time! There are usualy 2 or 3 fire teams when we play. If there are 2, one covers while the other moves in, if there are 3, 2 cover while one goes closer. Where did you guys get all this bs about hiding and sniping from? You guys should read over your posts and see how ignorant you make yourself look! You guys are freaking out cuz that jerry dude was trying to help some people out! Hell, i like airsoft, more than paintball! I still like paintball, but i prefer airsoft. And yes, people do "bunker" other people. What is wrong with you guys, calling us ignorant when you are the ones freaking out when someone says, hey look, this sport is awsome, you should try it out! And please tell me why we are sick? Are all the guys who play vidoe games and watch war movies sick? Some how i doubt it. You call us sick but you guys are talking about the satisfaction of smaking guys with balls of paint just like you KILLED THEM! You are no different from us, except in airsoft we do more planing, more communication, and alot more teamwork. And there are lots of fields that will accept airsoft players. Every year there is also a huge game that has about 200-300 players in it, giant teams, very fun. You guys need to lighten up and just look at the pro's and con's of each sport, i did and i am much happier with airsoft, oh yea, THERE ARE NO PEOPLE SHOT BY COPS AND YOU DONT BLEED WHEN YOU GET HIT GOD DAMNIT! How many times do you have to hear it? BBS DONT MAKE YOU BLEED! Yes we are practicing real life tactics! We are simulating wars! You know why, we enjoy it, we do enjoy shooting people, its very fun to see that yellow or white bb fly through the air and smack someone in the ***. Yes, there are different fire modes, depends on your gun though. I have a MP5 SD6, it has a safe mode, semi mode, and full auto mode, some have burst modes, and all but the sniper rifles are full auto.

[The Beast Masta]

Obviously little jerry and you all have some certain misconceptions of the airsoft phenomena.
Little jerry shame on you for coming on this paintball forum and posting with a condescending tone. For all you paintballers out there who will read this airsoft is no threat to the paintball community. Airsoft is a small fringe sport and will hopefully never reach the size or fame that paintball has at the present. The game is played differently but does share some common aspects. Airsoft is a game of honor if you cheat you are blacklisted and no one will play with you anymore. We have a high regard for each other and and the sport. In respects to the guns you can get all you need to play for 300 bucks any gun any style. All the guns are the same and like paintball you can spend the money to make your gun shoot faster farther and better. Depending on who you play with the velocity limit varies. here in socal it is 450 with the standard bb weight(the muzzle energy is less than that of a paintball due to weight). Also any projectile weapons that shoot over 150 ft are considered dangerous weapons wether a paintball gun bb gun or airsoft gun. You can just as likley hurt someone with your paintball gun as with your airsoft gun. Just about a month ago a man assaulted la county sheriffs with a paintball gun and guess what they shot him. It all depends if you are going to be responsible for your actions and not be a *******.

[Richy_C]

AAAAHHHHHH!!!! you used proper english! thats scary! and you were polite!! you must be wierd!!!! j/k man, welcome to PB review

[abeaucha]

Are there forums with for respectable airsoft players, or are they all this dumb. Are these just the wannabe paintballers who dropped out or what. Are there airsoft forums? blah just leave us be.

Airsoft=good
Paintball=Better

[spy]

That is a whole other sport that is unlike paintball in every way. IT is those kind of sports that put a bad name on paintball. Paintball is just a game that we all love doing and that is just pain. Plus this is a PAINTBALL sight not airsoft!!!

[abeaucha]

Paintball has a rival its called basketball.


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LOL just go away already

[AllOleander]

Paintball and Airsoft are two differnt sports.. 2 indeed that i plan on playing.

If i wake up in the morning, and want a rush, ill go play paintball. If i want to spend the whole day acting like i was actually in war, ill go play airsoft.

But a scenario game in paintball doesn't come close to a game of airsoft..but they are two differnt sports.

I personally think paintball would be more fun..but i plan on trying airsoft. I'm not gonna be comletely ingnorant about it.

[NickR]

See, this guy is smart, he doesnt shut himself off from all other things and say, im gonna be *** and hide and say crappy comebacks when i feel threatend, little jerry didnt come here to piss you guys off, he even said that! He came cuz he made a mistake and spent money on paintball before he found out about airsoft, he wanted to keep that from happening to others so he posted this topic! But i moved to airsoft and i get a better rush from it then i did paintball. Knowing that there is someone out there that can nail you from 200+ feet with ease and has damn good camo on kinda gets your blood flowing. So you start getting an addrenalin rush when all hell breaks loose and an entire squad of like 3 4 man fire teams charges and unleashes hell on your sorry ***. lol

[orryn]

I really don't care if people play airsoft or not. My friend wanted to start and asked me if I wanted to join him. I thought about it and decided I do not want to be walking around with a very good replica of a submachine gun. I'm all for fun a games, whether it paintball, lasertag, frisbee or soccer, but where it becomes hard to distinguish between reality and fiction is where I draw the line.

[AllOleander]

Thats true.

I used to tell myself "Come on, go airsoft. It will be much cheaper. The ammo is way cheaper, use batteries instaed of gas, dont need any protection besides sunglasses..it will be cheap and you can go out and play it in yoru backyard"

WRONG! If anyone saw you playing airsoft, the police would be there in 10 seconds (maybe even w/ swat teams) They will not hesitate to throw the cuffs on you and throw you in the car and take u to the station. even if you scream its just a game. (most criminals probably say that anyway :D )

So.. im gonna wait atlesat until im 18..cause you cant eevn buy airsoft weapons leagally until ur 18.. but i will probably play both in the future.

Just money becomes a problem. You can't really get a good airsoft weapon for under 500 bucks. in paintball i can use my 89 dollar spyder and have a blast and do well too, but you cant do that in airsoft

i think they are both great sports and i hope to try airsoft very soon.

[elTwitcho]

Airsoft, is an incredibly accurate simulation of SWAT team actions and to a lesser extent war. Know what else it is, childish. Most of us grew out of playing soldier with our UZI waterguns when we were 8 years old.

[abeaucha]

At least little jerry left jeese, I just got my airsoft gun in the mail. It is kinda cool, but no marker! Honestly I think mini electrics are the coolest because they don't look like real guns and dont shoot 400 fps. Please This is the last time I will post in this thread! Obviously you like airsoft more and are happy with it so there is no need to continue! good luck and don't get shot

[optimusprime888]

How do you know when you're hit in air soft? And why would you want to be hit with little plastic pellets?

[Incube]

Airsoft is G A Y case closed!

[AllOleander]

Originally posted by optimusprime888
How do you know when you're hit in air soft? And why would you want to be hit with little plastic pellets?

It is a game of friendliness. If you feel something that you think is a bb pellet, then you call yourself out.

I dont' thikn the japenes (inventers) are as vicious or competitive as us americans (and canada..i didn'dt for ya ;P)

[AllOleander]

Originally posted by littlejerry
Wow, I found something quite similar to paintball, but better! This is my new "paintballgun". It shoots 6mm pellets or paintballs! It is a MP5 A5, and the pistol is a Glock 17. Both are mine. I shoot about 10 rounds per second and close to 350 FPS. I can nail guys at 200 feet with this bad boy, and 100 feet with my pistol! You guys wana know more, email me. http://www.pbreview.com/fpics/littlejerry061901095722mp5a5.jpg

***I'm sorry to all of you that are going to get pissed at me for asking airsoft questions in a paintball forum..i would PM him but i want to have you all see this becuase i dont think that mp5 has any range***

Ok, does that mp5 have any range? cuaes i wasa really looking into a CA (Classic Army) MP5 all metal w/ TM lazerdot site, Doulbe mag clip, tactical flashlight, tightbore barrel and all metal guts. but...i would usually play in the woods and not indoors or sceneario games. so would the mp5 be a bad choice of weapondry if we are gonna play in teh woods? would it be better for me to get an m4 and trick it out? i really like the feel of an mp5, but i dont think the range would be the greatest..i love the sites of teh mp5, but the accuarcy/range wouldn't be too great..i dunn oif it will be that big of deal tho caues im a front player and iw ould be the one running and shooting rather then staying back and aiming..so i would need a gun thats comfortable, w/ good sites, and good balace (all of these qualilties scored a 10 at planetairsoft) but teh range got a 7 and accuacy an 8..i thik overall it was 9.3 or something.

so would an mp5 be a good choice, even if we would play in the woods

or do you think i would be better off w/ an m4

remember i do like to move alot..im not one of theose that lays on my belly the whole time

thx

**SORRY TO ALL YOU CLOSE MINDED PAINTBALL FANATCIS..I LOVE YA ANYWAYS :p**

[littlejerry]

My MP5 is upgraded so its fine at long ranges. I was thinkin about getting a M4 but they are just to big, get the MP5 and upgrade the spring and motor in it for good range.

[AllOleander]

So you just have to upgrade the spring and motor to get more range? sweet.

i have a deal on a all metal guts, tm reddot site, tightbore barrel, double mag clip, and tactical flashlight...so for range ill just replace teh spring.the motor is fine..what motor do you have in that one?

[JIVEN]

This is stupid. its like when The football players make fun of soccer or vice versa. whats the point of making other people feel bad about the sport they like. Personally I like paintball more, but im not going to say anything bad about airsoft.

[AllOleander]

uh we're past that now we are takling about the guys mp5

[elTwitcho]

Yes, we're past comparing airsoft guns to BB guns, now we're talking about this guys MP5. Now we're closing this thread.