Sight good for back players?

[Phobos182]

I'm wondering if there are any back players out there that a sight helps out every once in a while. The type of situation i could think of that a sight would help a lot would be.

1: Off the break. I would sight in my lane, or the oppositions back player to pick him off quickly.

2: Critical shots. Where you only see like, 2 inches of toe behind a bunker, and you need to get that shot before he tucks it back in. etc...

Wondering if anybody has had any experiences with sights helping out their game, and what situations you would use a sight. I'm not saying i would use it ALL the time during a game, but there are a few situations where i believe it could help a lot.

[Urban-Coyote]

Originally posted by Phobos182
I2: Critical shots. Where you only see like, 2 inches of toe behind a bunker, and you need to get that shot before he tucks it back in. etc...
sights don`t make the gun itself more accurate.

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

Originally posted by Urban-Coyote

sights don`t make the gun itself more accurate.

but it lets you be more accurate...

think...

a normal rifle... no sights... its just as accurate as it is with the sights... but its the sights that LET you be that accurate...

[scoobydoo420]

the problem is, you cant compare a rifle with a paintball gun.. a paintball is nothing like a bullet.. they share no flight characteristics.. so the best you can get with a sight is just a general idea of where your barrel is pointing.. sight down your barrel, once you get that down, youd find that a sight would actually slow you down.. I've never tried to use a sight, but if you REALLY want one try the Dye Izon, ive never used it but it seems like it could be helpful, its a both eyes open sight, it gives the optical illusion of a dot in your field of view..

[123justin]

Just adjust the sight to the best of your ability and you should have a reasonable estimate where the ball will be flying towards.

[MINDofSIN]

Although I don't use a sight anymore, I still think that with it I am a better shot. Rather than taking 2-3 shots to get on target, using a sight you can place every shot exactly where you want it. Also, when you shoot at a guy and he goes into cover, you can correct the dot so the shot will be in the exact same spot he comes out.

Also, I put pen marks on the glass of my red dot for 50, 75, and 100 feet. It's good because it's consistent. If you have dimpled paint, it might not go straight. You correct, it goes straight, and you miss. With a sight you can hold on target and hammer away.

Don't bash them until you've tried them.

[-=ReD-hAzE=-]

but you CAN compair a paintball gun to an old fashined(sp?) musket... that used sights...

[scoobydoo420]

again, a paintball is not like a bullet, or a musket ball, or a BB.. metal is able to be made in a much more spherical shape than a gelitan capsule.

[Thor the Mighty]

dont ever buy a sight! THOSE ARE ***. they just give you tunnel vision. just fire and see where your balls are landing and adjust from there. its not like you need that "one shot one kill" crap

[Paintballer27]

I've seen quite a few people with red dot sights. They don't interupt your vision and they will help most likely.

Now Thor The Mighty. Say your up against a pro with an angel and usually wins gun fights. Do you think that 1rst shot is going to help you?

I know the gun isn't everything and skill counts for a lot but a pro with an angel counts. Also people respect the guy who can go out and take out guys with as less then 10 balls per person.

People expect angels to do good because of the high rate of fire but being able to place those shots well is what gives you respect.

[JTp8ntballer12]

i borrowed a sight, it looks cool but pointless

[Phobos182]

I've seen a lot of pictures on warpig with pro players using IZONs. I'm wondering if there on the gun because of their sponsors, of if they actually use them.

Can i get an opinion from people who have actually used a sight, and if they could tell me if it helped them out at least a few times?

[scud2519]

I have a sight on my *sniper* spyder and it is basicly useless since it give you tunnel vision and looking down you barrel works for knowing about where you going to be shooting. (however it does look cooler with it)

[SilverFox]

Well well well where to start? First i'll say that the right sight can help any player if they use it properly. The situation dictactes how helpful the sight will be though. I have played for nearly 17 years and often use sights front back mid woods concept they are helpful it many situations. You need a sight like the armson pro dot or dye izon though for most pball situations they are the only sights i have found which allow quick enough target aqusition. The biggest problem with sights in pb is the low velocity and high drag on paintballs cause a very arching trajectory. This makes the "point blank rage" of your sight rather narrow maybe 10 yards at most. But if you have a good consistant velocity and good paint you can be dead nuts accurate with in that range. With pratice you can also widen the range with very little compenstaion. I really like a sight for posting on someone or for long range woods shots especialy.

Now for the fun part.

Thor ----"they just give you tunnel vision. just fire and see where your balls are landing and adjust from there. its not like you need that "one shot one kill" crap"

Sights do not give tunnel vision , players give themselves tunnel vision. one shot is all a good player will give you many times.

Scoob---"again, a paintball is not like a bullet, or a musket ball, or a BB.. metal is able to be made in a much more spherical shape than a gelitan capsule"

Ha ever seen a hand cast "round" ball. You are correct though that bullets connon and musket balls are different, just wroung about the difference. The problem with paintballs compared to bullets is a little thing called Ballistic Coefficient. In other words they problem with a paint ball is that they are not dense not just thier shape.

[tonysk83]

Originally posted by Phobos182
I've seen a lot of pictures on warpig with pro players using IZONs. I'm wondering if there on the gun because of their sponsors, of if they actually use them.

Can i get an opinion from people who have actually used a sight, and if they could tell me if it helped them out at least a few times?

i think its a sponsor thing

[willybob]

Originally posted by Phobos182


2: Critical shots. Where you only see like, 2 inches of toe behind a bunker, and you need to get that shot before he tucks it back in. etc...


That's not your job. Try to pull **** like that off, and don't be surprised if you get cut from the team. If you focus in on one person trying to eliminate them, you aren't doing your job one bit, a back player's main purpose is to protect the fronts and kep the opposing players in, not neccesarily eliminate them. If you try to go for "critical shots" don't be surprised if your fronts get bunkered. Front players do the elminating, back player do the surpressing and eleimanations while the opsing players are moving.

[MINDofSIN]

Originally posted by willybob

That's not your job. Try to pull **** like that off, and don't be surprised if you get cut from the team. If you focus in on one person trying to eliminate them, you aren't doing your job one bit, a back player's main purpose is to protect the fronts and kep the opposing players in, not neccesarily eliminate them. If you try to go for "critical shots" don't be surprised if your fronts get bunkered. Front players do the elminating, back player do the surpressing and eleimanations while the opsing players are moving.

I see what you are saying but with or without a sight you can quickly get a few shots off while still being aware and ready to shoot at the other team. If you can hit someone, why not try rather than be afraid of what might happen when the front guy decides to move during those few seconds? It all depends on your style and the situation(ex. you wouldn't try taking hard shots if your front guy was in the same bunker as a known bunker monkey from the other team.).

Don't ever tell someone they are doing something wrong if it works for them. Think outside the (dead) box.

[willybob]

Well, if you want to think that way and get cut from the team, go right ahead. I was just helping him out. In a ten man game there are generally 3-4 back players, 3-4 fronts, and some mids. Fronts=bunker and snap shoot. mids=go for those "criticle shots". This isn't always true, but it is the general formation. It's hard enough for 3 guys to keep 4 fronts in, let alone the mids. Therefore, you sling paint, listen to the fronts when they say to get someone in, they do it, but they try to do it without having to be told, which requires a wide range of vision, and not going for eliminations. The only eliminations back players should get are luck shots and shots on players that are running, not concentrated shots.

[Thor the Mighty]

Originally posted by Paintballer27
Now Thor The Mighty. Say your up against a pro with an angel and usually wins gun fights. Do you think that 1rst shot is going to help you?

it will but when you're in a fight with a dude with an angel, you're not going to be looking through the scope are you? didnt think so. it makes you expose more of your head when you look through it when you are peeking around a bunker.

[Phobos182]

Thanks for the suggestions. I dont think i'm going to get a sight.

After all the helpful advice about how quickly you can aquire a target, and getting tunnel vision. I dont think it would be for me.

Thanks for the tips.

[willybob]

hehe sorry if I sounded insulting, I tend to soundlike I'm uber pissed (I'm not) at people when I hear them say something I don't agree with....

[Phobos182]

Yeah. I play back all the time, and i know what your saying.
I though maybe the izon would not get you locked on one guy by the description on dyes site (Both eyes open, etc.). But i guess that is not the case, so i dont want to waste my time lining up a shot when the tape line gets taken because i couldent see $#!@ on that side.

[MINDofSIN]

Thor had a good point, if you have a vertical feed gun you will have to expose more of your head to use a sight.

With any other style feed tube you might expose less depending on how you shoot.