Using loctite?

[nitza]

how excatly do u use it? i'll be using it on a cocker--wut color should i get? how should i do it..etc..PLEASE HELP?!

[Alexi1337]

I used some on my tippy once. Just lube up the part that goes in and screw it into the hole.

[PolicarStudios]

Make sure you know what you're doing loctite is very permanent and hard to work with, try to use teflon tape if you can it's a much better solution.

Anyway, just put a little around the threads of whatever you're loctiting in then screw it in, that's it. Should stop leaks.

Get blue, red is even more permanent. Neither is easy to remove though.

[LadderingABC_Yu]

after it drives u can chip away @ it:D

[LadderingABC_Yu]

i mean dries*
2 lazy to edit

[Shadow221]

just put some of the loctit at the very end of the threads(the first section to screw in). As you screw it in the loctite is spread over all the threads.

Here's an articel from WARPIG about loctite
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loctite/index.shtml

[Alexi1337]

Yeah definately be careful with it, its some serious sh***.

[nitza]

i'm using to stop leaks in the pneumatics---any more help related to that?

[Alexi1337]

Ummm...by leaky pnuematics you mean like ASA or valve threads. Right? Don't use it on anything other than threads...

[nitza]

talking like the hoses that connect everything

[LadderingABC_Yu]

i'd use teflon tape
really cheap .99c @ local hardware shop
and u have more than enough to multi uses
loctite is 1 time use

[PolicarStudios]

NO NO NO!!!! Don't do it! That is a disaster waiting to happen. Tell me what's leaking and I can help you, I know a lot about this, and one thing I can tell you is that loctite is the worst thing you can do. Chances are that it will not fix your leak but make it impossible to take things apart enough to fix it later.

Here are some possible problems:
Leaks in general from ram and/or 3 way...realign the front block, usually the problem. Or out of time cocker.
Majorly leaking 3-way: replace o-rings.
3 way leaking in forward but not backwards or backwards but not forwards position: Adjust trigger stops and/or timing.
Little leaks that are pretty minor but hard to find: Usually bad pneumatics hose, buy some new hose and replace it it's a dollar a foot usually. This is easy to do, but be gentle.
Leaky ram: Faulty ram or misaligned front block. If leaking in one direction but not the other, replace the ram or take it apart and fix it up (but this takes some skill and patience--so I just used my old ram.)
Leaky pneumatics reg: Leaking out of the little hole means a faulty o-ring, take it apart and replace. Leaking around the bottomy area means you should take it out, put teflon tape around it, then put it back together again.

ONLY time you could use locitce would be faulty barbs, and that's something I wouldn't mess with because if you let loctice into the internals of the pneumatics....not good.

NO LOCITE ON PNEUMATICS! DON'T DO IT!

[splatterpunx]

God this is SUCH BS , BLUE loctite is EASILY removed by hand
it is not "one time use" BLUE BLUE BLUE freaking loctite ONLy

teflon tape can cause serious damage to some markers and will VOID some warrentys if used


as above loctite is a thread locker, on pnues it should be used on the LPR threads,and can be used sparingly on the threads on the base of the ram aswell as the barbs

your leaks are most likely caused by bad o-rings/seals or faulty hose

unless you have specifically located the leaks at thread points

[PolicarStudios]

Blue loctite isn't so bad, but I used some in my expansion chamber on my spyder, and after heating it with big flames from my gas stove, putting it in a vice, and turning it as hard as I could all I had was a completely stripped hose. The hex nut like part that's on all steel braided hose things was completely circular because the metal gave way before the heated blue loctite did (the area around it was so hot it would burn the skin badly on contact).

Not so innocuos is it? Anyway, blue is okay but be sparing when you use it. And teflon isn't recommened on some markers because it can get in the solenoids. Cockers have no solenoid valves so use that instead.

You may have better luck than I did (I've removed some blue loctice) but teflon tape is a much, much better option and your leak is probably due to bad hose or misaligned front block, two things where loctice couldn't help but could harm the marker.

[splatterpunx]

first ,read instructions on the bottle BLUE loctite is hand tool removeable with no heat

you obviously had somthing different on your marker

i have used blue loctite exclusivly on many many markers,air systems and every kind of fitting imaginable,why? because its my job



yes a cocker has no electronic solinoid,but a 3 way is a pnuematic switch just like a solinoid

and bits of teflon can corrupt the entire system
so its not really a smart way to go

[Shadow221]

Originally posted by splatterpunx
first ,read instructions on the bottle BLUE loctite is hand tool removeable with no heat

you obviously had somthing different on your marker

i have used blue loctite exclusivly on many many markers,air systems and every kind of fitting imaginable,why? because its my job



yes a cocker has no electronic solinoid,but a 3 way is a pnuematic switch just like a solinoid

and bits of teflon can corrupt the entire system
so its not really a smart way to go
dude, you do know there's more than one kind of blue loctite...right?

[splatterpunx]

actually theres only one

loctite is a brand name they call thier medium strength thread locker blue



there are other companys that make thread locking products in all different colors/strengths

none of them i have named

[PolicarStudios]

Actually many of the other brands are really just loctite under another name, made by the exact same company. And yes, there are many kinds of loctite but only one blue, which is medium strength.

And yeah, the above story really happened to me. No amount of force could break the bond the loctite created, neither could sodium hydroxide (soda lye) which i tried to melt it with later. It did take all the anno off my expansion chamber though.

Anyway, teflon is needed in exactly one place in cocker pneumatics, which is the pneumatics reg and it's not even needed there most of the time (I don't use any.) The guy who recommened that I use some is the guy who builds boston paintball's 1500 dollar custom cockers, so he knows what he's saying. The 3 way only needs good o-rings, timing, and alignment, and hoses to work...same with the ram. And teflon tape can be removed from the ram and 3 way without much trouble, I assume, the regulator would be harder to remove it from.

Anyway, use loctite if you must, but your leak is not related to something that can't be fixed better with something else. If it's not a leak where the pneumatics reg goes in then it's bad timing, alignment, or o-rings. And I'd rather have teflon tape in my 3 way than the 3 way rod loctited in.

Loctite has its place in an autococker (loctiting the ball detent in is a smart move if you have problems getting it to fit right, in my opinion), but it has no place in the pneumtics except perhaps holding the barbs in the pneumatics, and the barbs should never leak as far as I know....if it seems like they do it's probably bad hose.

[Shadow221]

242, 243 and 290 grade loctite are all blue.

[jawpaul]

Red loctite is fun:D

[nitza]

i started to use the blue(262) loctite, seemed well, cept i noticed loctite was more liquid then i would have thought..but now it seems like its not gonna dry, its been over 48 hours and theres still some wet loctite left..HELP?!

[PolicarStudios]

I think I had that problem too, just let it dry it'll end up fine in the end, wipe some of the liquid off I guess if worse comes to worse it did that for me and came out fine.