took her out for a spin had some questions

[justaguy]

Well I took out the impulse for a day of fun. Well first off I wasn't happy with how much I chopped cause I know I don't shoot that fast, but a better hopper should fix that I got a 12v revvy but I guess I need something faster. Well my other question is after all that choppin gotta do alot of cleaning what is the proper way to do this what should I really make sure I clean good. I have paint on and under the o-rings on the bolt just take them off and clean it? Also it is my first time taking it apart anything I should be extra careful of or any heads up would help. thank you all.

oh yeah I did some field cleaning after every chop just so you all dont say I wasnt taking care of my baby.

[midknight]

Well first of all Imps shouldn't chop to begin with. You should check everything out (dwell, pressure, etc.) and make sure nothing's wrong. As for cleaning, I usually run a jerk through it after I play (a straight shot work works if thats all you have) and clean out the ram/hammer and the valve if it needs it. Also be sure to clean the max-flow.

[Maxwell Murder]

Your Impy was chopping? Something must be wrong

[XxLaSeRxX]

I went to play on sunday and was breaking paint all over the place.. Im not sure if I chopped it or if it broke in the barrel. I once had to squeegie my barrel twice in one round. Maybe the paint to barrel match was bad. **shrug** But I was getting really pissed. I have the progressive stock barrel for now, planning to get a freak in the next few weeks. Im also thinking of getting a shorter feed tube and an evo. Does anyone here use an evo and have any comments??

Thanx

[justaguy]

Well im sure I was chopping cause I had paint in my bolt and oozing out of the hole where the vision would go if I got it. The second time I chopped well more like pinched the ball was stuck in the bolt and feed hole. Well I saw two people saying I shouldnt be chopping I wish somebody could tell me how to fix it.

[Skog]

ok, first off, all paintball markers can chop unless they run at less than 60psi (or are level 10 e-mag extremes but lets forget them for a moment)

don't say that it is wrong for an impulse to chop, they chop just as much as other markers.

chopping is not a fault with the gun, it is caused because you are pressing the trigger faster than paintballs are going into the gun.

basically you have four options:

1) if you have an old board then you can adjust your imps ROF using the POT on the board

2) you can get vision

3) you can get a better hopper, 12v revvy's w/x board should be the bare minimum for an impulse as even they are simply too slow to feed the imp. get an evo II or halo

4) SHOOT SLOWER



-XxLaSeRxX- I have an evoII and i personally like it. when i got it i compared both the halo and the evoII and this is what i came up with (i used to work in a p-ball store, i get to do a lot of testing):

-halo will feed faster but only while the batteries are fresh, after a while it slows down to the same speed as an evo (which stays constant till the battery low indicator comes on)

-the evo is smaller and presents less of a target and is more likely to promote bounces should it get hit.

-The evo can hold more paintballs (an extra 20 marbs)

-the evo is cheaper

-the evo is lighter

-the halo is balanced like a regular hopper, while the evo tend to make your marker slighlty back heavy.

I personally chose the evo because i don't need the extra 3bps that the halo can give me. I sorted out the balance issue with an eclipse compact drop forward and now, i feel, it balances better than before.

the fact of the matter is that imps are not full auto, they are semi's, this means that noone can do over 13bps steadily and so although a revvy isn't good enough there is no need to get the fastest hopper, basically either get the halo or the evo II, but remember you will never use the extra speed you get from the halo and that the evoII is cheaper

[FOM]

While we tried the egg 2s , we all use halo bs. With the Halo Bs we can run a low rise and still get max rate of fire. We don't seem to have this ability evo 2s. Rember, in Vision your HOPPER actuly controls how fast you can fire.

One problem... You can NOT use the the eclipse coll looking ball detents with the halo B-- it will push the balls right past them!

FOM

[Awhislyle]

I personally think the Egg II are butt ugly, but all ive heard that bad about the egg2 is beigh just a little bakcheavy, so if you dont care about the lloks go ahaead and get it over the HALO

as for me Im hoping the redesign the look of the egg

[Skog]

i must admit that the egg does not look nice, but if you see someone hooting at you with it you realise that the shape makes a very small target, plus balls will bounce off it (has happened to me, and it happened to the guy i was shooting at)
it does look ugly, but the shape is functional

remember, just cos something looks nicer doesn't mean it will work better, i mean the eclipse aggressor looks nicer than a big chunky LPR, but which one gives you the best performance?

[Awhislyle]

yeah, I hopefully will be ok with my revvy

[big ugly spyder]

i was gonna put a turbo rev in my revvy, my team mate has a tricked impy withvision and he never had a problem with the turbo rev, but it fried, now he has an evo 2...........may not look cool, but he hasnt had a problem and says it works like a dream ive seen him rip that imp......holdin 12-13 for a couple 2-3 seconds and no probs. those hoppers are soooo much better than the halos cuz i dont no about u but i dont plan on dumpin 20 bps.........and its cheaper

[justaguy]

Well guys I got bad news. Im going to go ahead and tell you all what the set up was. I got the second year package im sure you all are familiar what this comes with. I was using marbs, stock barrel and my brothers evo 2. I started slow and then started speeding up and chop! It was like the 10th ball out. Did some quick cleaning and let my brother go at it and he got further into it and then chop again. Im beginning to think it has something to do with the way I got the lpr, dwell and max-flo set up. I think instead of investing on a evo2 I should just go ahead and get vision then later on down the road the evo 2. I would appreciate any help.

[Dravion]

well, here's a couple things you should try before shelling out 150 bucks for a new board and vision eye.
How fast were you pulling the trigger? just a simple 2 or 3, or were you trying to rip?
Load the egg up and let it feed back into the bag or a tube to see that it's feeding fast enough.
Then if that's right, go ahead and look at the documentation on smartparts site, or the paper manual that you got with the impulse and reset your pressure and velocity as if you didn't have the LPR.
If you can get it to work now, then you know it was the dwell/pressure.
If it works then, then search for all the LPR help threads here and reset that, also use the peice of paper that EPBO sent out about the LPR setup.

If it worked without the LPR then once you get it all set up, it should work just as well. If you take this route, be sure to ask any and all questions here. Or call the guys at EPBO.

[confusion]

I dont think this has been mentioned but find a aftermarket impulse barrel and try that. From my experience with the progressive barrel paint will break in it especially no matter is using marbz or any other paint. And i been out of PB for year and just now getting into it but if i remember the stock progressive is a rather large bore .693 if i remember right.

[SugarSkater]

Would a Riccochet 2K(sp?) be fast enough for a non-vision Impulse?

[c0ck3r_b0i]

Originally posted by SugarSkater
Would a Riccochet 2K(sp?) be fast enough for a non-vision Impulse?

*Ricochet*
....and i was wondering that too, i dont think my AK will because i outshot my cocker with it

[Skog]

Originally posted by justaguy
Well guys I got bad news. Im going to go ahead and tell you all what the set up was. I got the second year package im sure you all are familiar what this comes with. I was using marbs, stock barrel and my brothers evo 2. I started slow and then started speeding up and chop! It was like the 10th ball out. Did some quick cleaning and let my brother go at it and he got further into it and then chop again. Im beginning to think it has something to do with the way I got the lpr, dwell and max-flo set up. I think instead of investing on a evo2 I should just go ahead and get vision then later on down the road the evo 2. I would appreciate any help.

have you turned the evo II's rof up?, at the lowest speed they will actually be slower than a revvy, turn it all the way up (not just to the "max" position and see if that makes a difference)

and btw sugarskater, whilst the ricochet is faster than the revvy it doesn't feed as fast as an imp can shoot. that doesn't mean that you should fork out a lot and get an evo as most imp owners use revvys and don't have problems, it all depends on how fast you shoot, do you know that you can consistantly shoot faster than a ricochet? If not then it will be fast enough

[FOM]

You could also be getting "trigger bounce" While we try to set up the triggers so they will "break in" right, something the pre travel gets a bit too short and you get trigger bounce. You might want to try giving the vertical trigger adjustmet screw about a 1/8 turn anti clockwise and see if the slightly longer pre travel helps.

Also take out and check you ball detents. sometimes they get some paint in them and don't work well.

FOM

[justaguy]

Thats a good idea FOM. I did get paint in the detents the first time I chopped cause I didnt have a fast hopper. I had thought about that earlier and unscrewed them and cleaned what I could. Is there any way to get that little ball out of its housing cause every once in a while when I roll it some more paint comes out. Is it safe to run this under water and let it dry? I sure wish I had access to a chrono so that I could really test it out and set it the proper way. I think that is the only way I can know for sure. I guess I will have to take the 45min drive to the field where I can use it.

[Dr J]

no need to take out you ball from the detent. just run it under water and let it dry.

As far as hoppers are concerned, both the evoII and Halo B are excellent hoppers. I went with the Halo B because I play front and the Halo is spring loaded, so, when I come out of bunkers at all these wierd angles, I know I will still get off my string of paint (without chopping) before I have to tuck.

Another POSSIBLE reason for chopping paint is that when you put your revy on your gun, the feed tube was too tight, so you just shoved it on. This can squeeze down the inner diameter of the hopper neck, causing paintballs to move much slower through that area.
The solution to this is to sand down your hopper neck

[Maxwell Murder]

This just hit my mind... how cold was it when you played?

[justaguy]

Well it was about 85 degrees. Good weather. Well I ran the ball detents under water and made sure they were clean. I gotta make a trip to the field and try out all the suggestions. I thank everyone that responded for the help and I will try everything everyone has suggested and hopefully I can find a solution to this problem. I will let all of you know how it went next monday.