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Tabris17 01-12-2006 05:14 PM

06 Cyborg Tech
 
Since the Macdev forum is rather lacking in some aspects I figured I would do a small favor and start posting some specs and what not for the 06 Cyborg. This will be a work in progress so this will be rather skimpy looking at first.
I will be posting more info as I get more acquainted with the 06 Cyborg but others are welcome to post info as well.

Specifications
Weight: 2.0lbs
Length: 9.25" (no barrel)
Height: 8.66" (no air source)
Width: 1.18"
Calibre: 0.68"
Power source: 9V battery
Gas source: Compressed air/N2 only
Barrel threads: Standard AutoCocker
Detent threads: Standard Autococker
Inline regulator: 04 Gladiator
Solenoid: Custom 5-way, 5V
Fire rate: true 34bps
Anti chop system: LED Break beam eye
Fire modes: Semi, PSP, NPPL, Millennium, CFOA, adjustable ramp (11 Firing modes in all)
Operating pressure: 200psi

CAUTION: I received a page to the manual that Smoke from PBK added himself; since the 06 Cyborg manual is really a copy of the Sonic Cyborg manual.
DO NOT adjust velocity through the LPR. The LPR should be set to 70-80 psi using the Macdev Ram Gauge (sold seperately) and the Gladiator regulator should be set to roughly 180-210 psi to acheive velocity. ALL velocity adjustments are now through the Gladiator NOT the LPR.

Allen wrenches for disassembly and other work: Standard sizes, the 06 Cyborg is non-metric.
5/64 for the grip frame and eye cover screws.
3/32 for lpr and gladiator reg adjustment.
1/8 for removal of ball detents and the two main body screws to seperate the grip frame from the body. You need to remove the eye covers and carefully pull the eyes out before pulling the grip frame away from the body.

O-Ring sizes (Thanks to Jim from PBK, this list is not complete yet and I'm not sure what is missing.)
006 Buna
007 Buna
007 Poly
008 Buna
011 Buna
012 Buna
015 Buna
017 Buna
022 Buna
110 Buna

Bolt lubrication: Pull the pin straight up and slide the bolt out, wipe down the bolt to clean off any dirt, paint, or grime. Do not use Dow 33, it is a grease and will become sticky/tacky after sometime of use and cause the bolt to stick. Do not use Dow 55 either; Dow 55 has an attribute that causes o-rings to swell up and your bolt will definately become stuck should you use Dow 55. You may even had to replace the o-rings to use the bolt properly again.
Triflow lube is the best and recommended for lubing your bolt. Use this in an open place though and avoid skin contact best you can. Triflow has teflon in it and has a very strong odor and can cause skin irritation. This will give you the best performance out of the bolt though as it will stay slick and not become tacky.

Effeciency: While I can't test the 2000 shots per 68/4500 theory, I did have a 45/4500 and I got roughly around 1100 shots off of it. And it was bitterly cold out too, probably in the 40's so I had roughly around 4200 psi after the fill. And the cold probably was dropping it even more without me knowing so I can only assume that the 2000 shots per 68/4500 is rather accurate.



Installation of Cyborg 07 Red Valve.

equipmentcounts 01-12-2006 07:16 PM

whatever happened ot the 46 bps rof

sniperdude9 01-12-2006 08:22 PM

is the velocity adjustment supposed to be through the hpr, on the 04 borgs too?

Tabris17 01-12-2006 08:30 PM

It cycles 46 BPS without paint, with paint it's 34 BPS, still outrageous. And yes, you're supposed to set the lpr to 70-80 and do velocity adjustments through the hpr/Gladiator reg.
If you adjust through the lpr like it says in the manual you'll blow your noid. And that's like $85+ right there.

honda1 01-14-2006 05:55 AM

He's talking about the 04 not the 06 Tabris, I thought on the older models it was done through the LPR.

Tabris17 01-14-2006 05:37 PM

I misread it. Even with the 06 it was said to do it through the LPR but too my understanding PBK suggests otherwise because it'll blow your noid that way. I'm not 100% sure, some of the others that use the older Borgs may be able to answer more clearly.
But from what I know doing that will blow the noid pretty quickly.

Gripy 01-15-2006 11:30 PM

yeah i beleive its like that for all borgs, set the hrp to ~200, not over 220, and adjust the lrp until the borg fully cycles, then adjust the hrp until you get desired velocity, becarefull w/ the Gald reg, when you screw the adjustment screw out, you are incresing velocity. Only a very small increment ~1/4 turn is required to change the velocity be a decent amt.

Ice Marine 01-17-2006 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honda1
He's talking about the 04 not the 06 Tabris, I thought on the older models it was done through the LPR.

With all Cyborgs, PBK still recommends you set the LPR to 70-80psi and then adjust your FPS through the HPR. Yes, the older Cyborg manuals do say to use the LPR; however, if you order(ed) a gun from PBK, they sent their professional view on how you should adjust your FPS.

I believe it's because they've recived so many guns with blown solenoids that they figured that it would be much wiser to give a fair warning.

kingshelper 01-20-2006 08:23 AM

can you use an HP tank on the 06 cyborg

Tabris17 01-20-2006 09:29 AM

Yes you can. I did it last night and it ran fine.

Hollow Bastion 01-30-2006 11:37 PM

Unlike Angels w/ their regs and other regulators out there, the MacDev gladiator can run off preset high output tanks.

Congrats on a 06 borg Tabris, Now I'm just waiting to get 200+ more bucks to get mine.

Hollow Bastion 02-07-2006 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equipmentcounts
whatever happened ot the 46 bps rof

Like Tabris post said, the 06 borg manual is basically a copy of the Sonic Cyborg manual. All that info about the specs are on my cyborg manual also, except mine wieghs 2.2lbs instead of 2.0.

Tabris17 02-07-2006 09:17 PM

Even the new 2.00 manual is a cheap copy unfortunately. Nothing is really updated in that since I got my board flashed at PBK from 1.01 to 2.00. It's a shame that a bit more time can't be spent on a decent manual but what are you going to do?

Magyc 04-27-2006 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tabris17
O-Ring sizes (Thanks to Jim from PBK, this list is not complete yet and I'm not sure what is missing.)
006 Buna
007 Buna
007 Poly
008 Buna
011 Buna
012 Buna
015 Buna
017 Buna
022 Buna
110 Buna

Anyone know which of these orings are for the 04 Gladiator (ASA and Piston)?

Tabris17 04-27-2006 07:25 AM

Unfortunately I don't know. There are Gladiator rebuild kits you can purchase from Macdev or PBK that will have everything you need. Until I actually have to start replacing O-rings I'm not going to know what goes where.

speedy2k4 09-10-2006 03:36 PM

wow, tabris is like the one to ask in this forum? we are all doomed.

anyways should be getting my cyborg in soon its an 04 or 05 or whatever. and i think i am probably gonna do the velocity like i did on my impulse or timmy. set the dwell to where it should be (assuming it even has dwell adjustments, i think it should with the nox board) then adjust the hpr to the range it should be, adjust the lpr to get it to cycle consistantly then minor changes through the hpr. but maybe i would be doing it all wrong, i dont know.

ddozen5 09-11-2006 09:43 AM

you got it right just make sure when you get it you zero them both out before hooking up air

peterock73 03-18-2008 08:41 PM

Help
 
Hey all, Well I have a used 05 Mac Dev on its way :) :) I have a Halo B hopper and a 4500psi tank with what I believe has a 800psi regulator built onto the tank(or screwed on). I have read the stickys and other forums and understand I have to set FPS by adjusting the HPR ( which I think means High pressuer regulator). I also have to set the LPR (low pressuer regulator) to around 70psi. I was not aware of there being to diffrent regs. I wondering if anybody has or knows where I can download a manual with pictures for my marker? I'd really get mad if I ruin my new pride and joy. Thanks for the much needed help

iliveforthis99 03-18-2008 10:31 PM

You can run off the manual for the Sonic at MacDevs website, macdev.net. To adjust your FPS make sure the HPR is set to 200psi (the gauge will tell what the pressure is), it probably is already but if you like you can bottom out the reg and reset. Then to increase velocity unscrew the LPR cap and then turn the LPR clockwise and counter-clockwise to lower it. Never go above 200psi on the HPR or you'll risk damaging the noid.

Tabris17 03-19-2008 03:46 AM

Actually never go above 220 psi. I usually set mine to 220 and adjusted through the lpr for velocity. Unless I set my lpr to around 60-65 with the lpr tool then I would run my hpr a bit lower.


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