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Cpt. Morgan 12-17-2006 05:09 PM

Future?
 
Here is my question to you all. As the times appear to be quickly changing where do you think Tippmann stands?

Ions are dying off as a "good" gun (their rep is bad and there are a lot of good guns being sold at low prices) and the variatey of choice in the low end anything market has expanded. Where do you think Tippmann's future lays?

What kind of gun would you like to see them come out with? What kind of upgrades for current guns or any interesting ideas about what Tippmann could do to re-enter the Paintball industry and not just stay in rec/woods/scenario play?

Dese 12-17-2006 05:13 PM

Personally I think Tippmann is gonna keep goin strong. I mean, the way I see it, tippys are the undisputed king of woodsball. I wouldn't consider anything else anyway. I would, however, like to see Tippmann's attempt at a revolutionary side-arm. I think they should have beet Tiberius to making a clip-through-grip handgun. I mean don't get me wrong, I love the Tiberius 8, but I think Tippmann could have done it first.

AngryInsurgent 12-17-2006 05:25 PM

I'd like to see tippmann continue innovating with alternatives to electronics. The idea of never needing batteries seems to fit tippmann's rugged and dependable stereotype. I'd like to see the X-7 low-profile cyclone feed prove itself worthy in both woods and speedball.

I also think Tippmann's future lies in continuing it's dominance in the Rec/woods/milsim markets. I'd rather not see them continue with triumph-type speedballish markers.

Zakushark 12-17-2006 08:37 PM

Tippmann wont be dieing out any time soon. You know that they pretty much own the woodsball/recball industry when you go to your local field and 80% of the people are using either an A-5 or 98. Tippmann has come out with a lot of good things lately also. The C3 was a revolutionary step in the paintball world, and the Triumph line of markers that Tippmann recently produced [even though most people think they are plastic pieces of what-not] were both very good decisions in my mind. Tippmann is slowly over taking its low end competitors with inexpensive products that appeal to recreational paintballers and new paintballers. And now with the release of the X7, and Tippmann’s latest partnership with SpecOps, Tippmann will probably rule the Scenario industry and beat out other companies like BT in a couple years. The only industry that Tippmann does not already dominate, or will most likely dominate is the high end industry. I would not be surprised if Tippmann releases a mid-range high end like the Proto Rail or Smart Parts Euphony in the coming years. Tippmann is definitely headed in the right direction.

AustinGod 12-17-2006 08:43 PM

My first gun I like was a tippman and forever my heart belongs to a tippmann. There is no other gun for me.

babustos 12-17-2006 09:53 PM

Tippmanns will continue what they're doing. Making guns that newer people will be attracted to and are easily used.

ICU117 12-18-2006 02:56 AM

Tippmann will survive for now on its woodsball market. It's where most people start and I'd be willing to bet that over 50% of people started with a tippmann. However I would like to see them try to enter speedball with a little more effort then a plastic 98c. A whole new marker from the ground up that is ep. If it has the qualities of a tippmann (durability, reliability, quality) then it will be excepted by the rest of the paintball community, and then tippmann will have 2 markets to grow into. It is the most sound business plan, to have to outs just in case you flop in one.

punkisbetter 12-18-2006 11:25 AM

yeah i definatly think they need a more of a speedball gun not like the triumph
i think that if they can put their reliability and endurence reputation into a speedball gun that it would sell alot better

dukedude4evr 12-18-2006 12:35 PM

tippmann should last forever. All they need is a GREAT high end EP gun. I mean if they hit Cyborg good, omfg Tippmann would probably sponsor a pretty good pro team. Anyway, how good is the effect?

AngryInsurgent 12-18-2006 01:55 PM

If tippmann does release a mid-end EP gun, I hope they don't repeat the mistakes of Kingman when they released the "Raven Primal."

Personally I'd like to see them go in the same direction as spyder with the VS2 and perfect the blowback, rather than going EP. The simplicity and reliability of blowbacks is part of what tippmann is all about and a quality low pressure blowback would continue that tradition (without the kick.)

Cpt. Morgan 12-18-2006 02:18 PM

Personally. I'd like to see them produce a low end electro gun that is cheap and can do 15bps but doesn't look like the triumph line of guns. Why? Its looks really REALLY turn people off.

I don't want to see Tippmann make a spyder or spyder like clone but I think if they made a 1 tubed, direct feed, semi-auto blow back that is a short gun (like the size of a VS2/VS3 or maybe a bit longer) and has minimal kick (due to a lightened bolt) that would be cool.

I'd like to see Tippmann thread all their ASA's the same on a new line of gun (like the one above) so that you could just buy pre-installed Anti-syphoned tanks from online or stores that match the threading of the ASA.

I'd pay 175ish for something like that and it would decapitate kingman over time because well... kingman sucks. I know of many horror stories about kingman's guns.

AngryInsurgent 12-18-2006 03:07 PM

A shortened and low pressure semi-auto blowback tippmann that still ran well on co2 (A/S or regular) would be totally boss. If such a marker retailed for under $200, it could eventually replace the 98c as the default tippmann.

ICU117 12-18-2006 04:25 PM

I'd buy one of those.. I wonder if tippmann reps read any of these, cause, these forums are a great way to see what their target market's gripes and wishes are. Most businesses dream of such a thing as this, but it doesn't seem like the companies really pay attention to these forums.

Cpt. Morgan 12-18-2006 04:38 PM

Interesting idea. I say that everyone who is a Tippy person or has used a Tippmann and wants to post what they would like to see Tippmann do etc post here. If this thread got big enough, like over 100 posts or so and the entire thing was to be sent to Tippmann, someone from Tippy might just look at it.

Keep on posting guys.

dukedude4evr 12-18-2006 05:55 PM

ALRIGHT, two things I NEED tippmann to do, and a list of things i'd like them to do.

1st - Replace Grip handles, use a ego type grip for changing modes.
2nd - Go EP with a regulator already on it
3rd - Get better upgrades. Better hoppers, barrels, etc.
4th - Get flashier D/F and get on/off asa's that are good
5th - Possibly shorten length.

hellomynameis 12-18-2006 06:03 PM

I think Tippmann should definitly stay in the woodsball/scenario market. They dominate that now and I think they should stay out of the speedball world. They tried with the Triumph and completely failed.

TheSpy11 12-18-2006 09:37 PM

I would like to see Tippy expand the propane technology into a semi-auto. That would help the transformation of paintball a great deal.

Govinda_T 12-19-2006 05:41 AM

Very simple. I'd like to see the comeback of true mech full-auto, ala the SMG 68, except slightly tweaked for improved performance and reliability. That and a decent high-end. That will be all.

Head Hunter 221 12-19-2006 06:56 AM

Bring back the SMG 68 and modifications that could turn the 98C into a full auto mec without the RT. I like the Idea that they should shorten the designs a bit (My spyder TL-R with a 16 inch barrel is shorter then my Dads Custom Pro with an 11 inch) I also feel that they should revolutionize the blow back like kingman did but in a mil-sim layout. Stop over pricing their guns I feel that a stock X7 should not retail for 400$. Now, an EP would be nice but can it still compete with the Ion, can it be 200 unlike the Rail. If they release an EP and it is in the 200-300 range I will be impressed.

ICU117 12-19-2006 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpy11 (Post 3840392)
I would like to see Tippy expand the propane technology into a semi-auto. That would help the transformation of paintball a great deal.

agreed.


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