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Old 05-07-2008, 04:41 PM   #1061
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:54 PM   #1062
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Ummm, no, even on paper it's pretty obvious that it blows.


Actually on paper Communism is FTW. Thing is nothing ever works as it looks on paper, and no country has ever attempted to run pure communism.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:04 PM   #1063
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Actually on paper Communism is FTW. Thing is nothing ever works as it looks on paper, and no country has ever attempted to run pure communism.
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Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production.[1] It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution[2]. Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems would be for the working class, or proletariat, to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government.[3] The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Trotskyism and Luxemburgism, are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist and are growing in importance since the fall of the Soviet Union.
No, that blows. Capitalism is pwnage, someone works themselves to be rich enough to do nothing for society, they and their ancestors should reap the rewards.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:14 PM   #1064
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No, that blows. Capitalism is pwnage, someone works themselves to be rich enough to do nothing for society, they and their ancestors should reap the rewards.

Thats a personal opinion. Im not making my statements based on personal opinions, my statements reflect the standard thought that everyone being equal is the best and most peaceful way to exist. So in theory, pure communism is perfect because there are no wars, there is no inequality, therefore there is no conflict.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:22 PM   #1065
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Thats a personal opinion. Im not making my statements based on personal opinions, my statements reflect the standard thought that everyone being equal is the best and most peaceful way to exist. So in theory, pure communism is perfect because there are no wars, there is no inequality, therefore there is no conflict.
Lazy people who want more motivated people to take up the slack like communism. Motivated people who plan to move up in life and will work hard to do it don't like communism.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:24 PM   #1066
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:38 PM   #1067
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war and drama is actually a good thing. not in the aspect of, "haha youre dead!" necessarily, but in that it brings about greater things.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:03 PM   #1068
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:50 PM   #1071
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Communism isn't as bad as people are told to think. The main reason people hate is because the cold war was against a communist nation and it was drilled into their heads that it's evil.
Hehe, you can prettymuch replace communism with drugs and it's true. It's funny, it seems we always have to be at "war" with something. First it's communism and poverty, now it's drugs and terrorism. These "wars" are nothing but fearmongering used to scare us into compliance and to use our tax dollars to fight concepts(seriously, you can't kill an -ism) when it should be going to stuff like education and medical advancements.

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war and drama is actually a good thing. not in the aspect of, "haha youre dead!" necessarily, but in that it brings about greater things.
Scientists do not sit about twiddling their thumbs until a war comes around, at which point they say "oh, hey, remember that Radar we were going to invent?" Invention has picked up during war in the past due to the additional funding given to scientific endeavours.

War is unnecessary for this. A change in the priorities of capital and politicians would be sufficient.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:09 PM   #1072
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Lazy people who want more motivated people to take up the slack like communism. Motivated people who plan to move up in life and will work hard to do it don't like communism.

here's your problem: that is NOT how it looks on paper. On paper everyone is working hard, and no one is slacking. There's the catch. If EVERYONE does their part then the communist society would be great. But as you have pointed out, people do not work that way.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:16 PM   #1073
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Do you know what that word means?
Uh, yeah. Its basically the opposite of communism, since it opposes socialism and the sort. Its extremelly conservative, militaristic, and high nationalism (jingoism was prevalent in Italy at the time of Mussolini, and I think is making a comeback in America). Benito Mussolini was fascist. Stop trolling, it doesnt make you look like a big boy.

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Old 05-07-2008, 07:35 PM   #1074
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here's your problem: that is NOT how it looks on paper. On paper everyone is working hard, and no one is slacking. There's the catch. If EVERYONE does their part then the communist society would be great. But as you have pointed out, people do not work that way.
Then I take issue with the whole phrase "on paper" I find that phrase to be crap. That phrase should be reserved for ideas that are really good, but when applied, an unforeseeable event arises that causes the idea to turn sour. Whereas, communism is a stupid idea that can be spotted a mile away without the need to be tried.
There are also other issues concerning the amount that someone works that I take issue with in communism that I won't get into.

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Old 05-07-2008, 07:46 PM   #1076
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:56 PM   #1077
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Benito Mussolini wasn't just a fascist....Benito Mussolini WAS fascism.
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Then I take issue with the whole phrase "on paper" I find that phrase to be crap. That phrase should be reserved for ideas that are really good, but when applied, an unforeseeable event arises that causes the idea to turn sour. Whereas, communism is a stupid idea that can be spotted a mile away without the need to be tried.
There are also other issues concerning the amount that someone works that I take issue with in communism that I won't get into.

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Yeah, its just a theory. Like a circle. Or an ideal gas. But I agree, in practice it is impossible to make work.
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