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Old 11-17-2010, 04:46 PM   #11621
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one thing i do know about guns, is that i don't want a 22 LR. just never had much fun with those.
Ain't going to find anything under a couple hundred dollars then.. Have fun paying for the ammo too. I have a shotgun and 9mm, but I prefer to shoot the shotgun or a .22lr rifle or handgun anyday of the week. It's alot easier to shoot when you aren't paying 50cents or more per shot.
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:53 PM   #11622
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i'm probably only going to shoot it a couple times a year, i'm not worried about ammunition costs. just want something fun.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:01 PM   #11623
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I definitely suggest a Mosin Nagant. I purchased an M39 about a year ago now, and I've already gone through a little over 600 rounds over the course of 13 trips to the range or so. Being an M39 rather than the typical M91/30, it costs a bit more, but I can easily say it's the most fun gun I have, fairly accurate as well,
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0646.jpg
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That's a 30 or 40 shot group at 50 yards, not too shabby for a milsurp with standard rear notch/front post sights and a trigger pull longer than a football field shooting surplus ammo that costs ~80 bucks per 440 rounds.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:35 PM   #11624
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One thing I will say is that it's worth it to spend a little extra to get something you really want. A rifle can last a lifetime (or several) if taken care of.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:23 PM   #11625
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You could learn how to roll your own and get one of these.

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Old 11-17-2010, 06:33 PM   #11626
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That's probably a bit too much money, and too time intensive for something he only wants for fun a few times a year, Travis.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:34 PM   #11627
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That's probably a bit too much money, and too time intensive for something he only wants for fun a few times a year, Travis.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:41 PM   #11628
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Well, someone who doesn't know as much about this stuff might have taken you seriously, just wanted to point it out, bro.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:59 PM   #11629
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Well, someone who doesn't know as much about this stuff might have taken you seriously, just wanted to point it out, bro.
You can take it seriously or you don't have to take it seriously. A pistol is not what he wanted, and he probably doesn't know what any of that stuff is on the table anyways besides the gun and the box of ammo. If he did wanna take me seriously, who am I to tell him he shouldn't reload his own ammo and get into wild catting anyways?
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:08 PM   #11630
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Never said you told him not to, I'm simply saying that someone who seemingly has limited time to devote to it, won't go to the range much, and wants it on the cheap, probably won't want to reload wild cat cartridges. You know how time consuming load development can be
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:12 PM   #11631
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anyways, ladies...

i think i'd love a mosin nagant. now, where to find one?
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:21 PM   #11632
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Dunhams, they were on sale for $89.99 with the bayonet.

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Old 11-17-2010, 08:26 PM   #11633
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seriously? $90? i don't even have to think about it.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:26 PM   #11634
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anyways, ladies...

i think i'd love a mosin nagant. now, where to find one?
That Aimonline site he talked about had them for like $60. It also offered a hand pick for $10, if anyone would care to explain what that is?
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:32 PM   #11635
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seriously? $90? i don't even have to think about it.
I was thinking about getting one myself but I haven't used my other gun in over five years so i don't know if it would be worth it for me.

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Old 11-17-2010, 09:11 PM   #11636
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think i'll stop at dunham's on the way back from work tomorrow, see if they have any in there. i'm sure i won't buy one right away though, too much other nonsense to pay.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:35 PM   #11637
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put up some pics when you do get one, and let me know how it shoots, it might persuade me to get one too.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:39 PM   #11638
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That Aimonline site he talked about had them for like $60. It also offered a hand pick for $10, if anyone would care to explain what that is?
Hand picked is where instead of grabbing any rifle, they pick the one out with the best crown, bore, wood to metal fit, and metal finish. For another 10 dollars you can request arsenal. Automatically add 10 dollars to original price for a hex receiver musty nugget.

Bucket of photo is being retarded right now but rest assured I will have you two comparison pics as SOON as photobucket stops being retarded.

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Hex receiver: (1928 tula ex-dragoon, this is the tula symbol after the bolshevik revolution and the change in power. The dragoon rifles were cavalry rifles that were shortened M91's, and when the 91/30 came around they were updated to 91/30 specs. Mine may be a proto-type but there is no sure fire way of knowing so otherwise it's just a regular ex-dragoon. I also have 2 more hex receivers, a 1933 tula doubled dated MO marked, re-dated in 1951, and a finnish SA marked M39 with a 1944 barrel date, but the receiver has no tang date meaning the receiver was made somewhere from 1891-1894. Finnish mosins are built on russian receivers. The ex-dragoon has no tang date either.


The stamping means Foremost arms factory at tula. CCCP means USSR.

Round receiver: This is a 1939 izhevsk round receiver. 90% of wartime rifles will be made at izhevsk, especially from 1943 on after the germans captured tula. The war-time machining of izhevsk rifles will be crude and ugly, but the rifles will still be just as good of quality as older rifles were and will shoot great.

You can't see the receiver very well, the stampings are always on the barrel shank, but you can partially see the receiver and it is round.

And just for pron, the double dated MO marked tula rifle pulled out of army proper for ministry of defense guard duty in 1951



EDIT: FOR THOSE WANTING TO PURCHASE A MOSIN, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO ALL OF YOUR READING FIRST ON 7.62X54R.NET. I CAN ALSO HELP YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, SEEING AS I AM A COLLECTOR AND MOSINS ARE MY MAIN INTEREST. YOU WILL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO REMOVE COSMOLINE.

If anyone has any questions on how mosins shoot... just ask me. I've fired off quite a bit of 7.62x54r from different types of surplus I.E. russian, bulgarian(the best IMO) and czech. I also reload for the 7.62x54r, and have loaded several different types of bullets, but mostly just shoot cast out of my finnish M39 now, and fire surplus out of the rest. Ask Jordan (Head Hunter), I convinced him and gave him mosinitis.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:03 PM   #11639
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YOU WILL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO REMOVE COSMOLINE.
We use good ole' WD-40 on our machine parts get shipped from over seas. Don't know how well that will work on the guns but I can't see it hurting anything other than the wood.
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We use good ole' WD-40 on our machine parts get shipped from over seas. Don't know how well that will work on the guns but I can't see it hurting anything other than the wood.
I spray mine down with WD-40 just to let it soak on the barreled action while I get all my stuff ready, but mineral spirits cuts through that stuff like a hot knife through butter. I use WD-40 on the metal after I give it a good soaking with Hoppes 9 lubricating oil. Mineral spirits is the best tool because if you soak small parts like the trigger assy and bolt parts in it, it will loosen up the cosmo then you can just wipe it off easy. Mineral spirits can also be used on the wood. My process for getting it off is one I learned on surplus rifle. Wipe the stock with a rag soaked in mineral spirits until all cosmoline is removed, let it dry to a white haze, and then take 0000 steel wool soaked in boiled linseed oil and gently scrub the stock keeping the 0000 steel wool wet, then let it sit for 30 minutes and wipe it off. The stock will never stick to your hands.

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These are what I shoot out of my baby, my finnish M39 if anyone was wondering.



Lee C312-185-1r sized to .311 over 13grs of red dot, prvi cases, cci LR primers, hornady crimp on gas check, lubed with liquid alox.

EDITx2: It also very essential that you run a lot of tight fitting patches soaked in mineral spirits down the bore and through the chamber to clean all last bits of cosmoline out. You don't want it causing any sticky bolt, and if you got a burr in the chamber and you aren't very proficient with powertools and don't have enough knowledge about firearms to do ityourself, you'll need to take it to a smith. Out of all the mosins I have, I only got one with a burr in the chamber. For the first 20 rounds, I had to beat the bolt back to rip the cartridge out, and the burr would gouge the brass. Now that I've got about 100 rounds through the rifle, it's smooth as butter. Just know that if you have a burr, and it's not so bad that you can't even eject the cartridge, but can eject it by hitting the bolt handle with your hand, just run a lot of steel cased ammo through it. It will clear up soon.
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