trouble deciding in which autococker to get and what the differences are...

gdevito123 · 06-30-2006, 04:47 PM

ive been playing paintball for about 4 years and have used spyders, and tricked out tippmanns. i decided i wanted to get an autococker and i was looking at some of them. can anyone tell me what the difference between these autocockers is:

http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...AAEI%2e9h97NTZ

http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...sAAAEIDdl97NTZ

http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...QAAAEK4S1jcopW

one of them is the pro, the other the competition, and another is the tactical. could someone please reccomend which to get and once again what the differences are?

also i have read many times that a fast hopper is needed. what would be a good one to get?

Dark Master · 06-30-2006, 04:50 PM

Comp and Pro have the same differences as the mech versions. Tactical is for the woodsball people.

As for a hopper, depends on your budget.

elcoman · 06-30-2006, 05:48 PM

Their all the same gun with the exception of accesories. The pro comes with A 15* asa and A barrel kit(I suggest this one) the comp doesn't come with barrel kit or 15* asa. The tactical comes with A shroud that has rails so you can use scopes and lights etc.. since those things are useless in paintball so don't bother with that one.

Dark Master · 06-30-2006, 05:50 PM

It has two backs and two tips. Not really a kit.

elcoman · 06-30-2006, 06:27 PM

That doesn't take away from the fact that it's still A kit.

gdevito123 · 07-01-2006, 09:18 AM

uhhmm my budget for the hopper would probably be up to like $75 something bucks...so what do ya think as for a good electro hopper?

paintballfolyfe · 07-01-2006, 09:19 AM

buy an eggy

elcoman · 07-01-2006, 10:44 AM

Don't buy an egg those things suck.
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...AAAAD8iePJWqlT
These are great and you can't beat the price.

Dark Master · 07-01-2006, 11:43 AM

Used Halo.

Uziel Gal · 07-01-2006, 04:25 PM

Evlutions aren't the greatest quality, and are back heavy, but they can still feed a little faster, and more consistently, than the Apache (not to knock the Apache, it's a great loader, but still, not quite as fast as an Evlution), they can also be upgraded to be faster with the Z-board upgrade, if you find you need your loader to be faster at a later date.

The down side of the Evlution is that some parts of the loader, particularly the battery door, have a tendency to break. Replacement parts are easy to get hold of, but it does add to the overall expense over time.

So you need to choose whether you would prefer a loader that's decently fast and quite hardy (Apache), or one that's a bit faster, with the capability to be faster still, but will need parts replacing every now and again (Evlution). Any other new loader in your price range would be a step down from these two. If you saved a little more, you can get a base HALO B (no Rip Drive) for $86.

Nex_Gen · 07-01-2006, 06:11 PM

I would go with the Egg and a Z-board, its fast enough

gdevito123 · 07-10-2006, 11:51 AM

also...do u think it would be nessesary to upgrade the barrel on it? if so...is the empire twister barrel a good barrel? and if not what barrel do u reccomend?

can u use co2 with an autococker? i heard something like u can but only with anti-syphon...what is that? and if i do get n2 what kind of tank should i get because ive see alot of them with different price ranges and different psi's...which i dont know what that means either...

Uziel Gal · 07-10-2006, 01:10 PM

Due to the way an Autococker works (closed bolt action) when the bolt closes, the only thing holding the ball in place is the barrel itself - the bolt pushes the ball passed the detente. This means that you either need to pick paint that fits your barrel, or if you use a variety of different paintballs, you need to be able to match the size of the barrel to whatever type of paintball you use on any given day. In order to achieve this you need a selection of different sized barrels, or a barrel kit.

A barrel kit is highly recommended for use with an Autococker, as it will improve the consistency greatly, as well as improving efficiency, and by eliminating ball spin, it can also improve accuracy. I wouldn't recommend buying just one barrel unless you always use paint that is the same size.

When looking at air systems, the specifications are normally expressed with two groups of number, 68/4500 for instance. The first number (68) refers to the volume of the tank in cubic inches, the second (4500) refers to the maximum pressure that the tank can be filled to. If you have two tanks of the same volume, but one has a higher fill pressure (68/3000 and 68/4500 for instance) the tank with the higher fill pressure will provide more shots per fill. If the tanks have the same fill pressure but different volumes (68/3000 and 88/3000 for instance) the tank with the higher volume will provide more shots.

Anti-syphoned CO2 can be used safely with mechanical Autocockers, but is not recommended for use with electronic ones. The anti-syphon tube is designed to prevent liquid CO2 exiting the tank and getting in to your marker. This is done by bending the a/s tube so that it always draws the gaseous CO2 above the level of the liquid in the tank.

gdevito123 · 07-11-2006, 10:35 AM

also...wat is a regulator...and do i need one if i am planning on using a 3000 psi n2 tank for my electric autococker?..also is it ok to use a remote with an n2 tank for my gun?

Uziel Gal · 07-11-2006, 11:17 AM

The regulator is a device used to control the pressure going in to your marker. It takes the high pressure supplied by your bottle and drops it down to a pressure suitable for your marker to function correctly. A high pressure output air system (which would be the best choice for an Autococker, puts out around 800psi or so, while your marker would require 300psi or so, so you need the regulator when using an air system, or you would be supplying your marker with too much pressure.

The 800psi or so being released from the air system is suitable to be run through a remote hose.