Cocker vs Electric

IronAsid · 05-10-2002, 07:28 PM

Wat would be a better front, or back player gun?
I know there is a big dibate on Cockers or mags but I think I would want a cocker, or would a electric be better?

urworstnitemare · 05-10-2002, 08:38 PM

well, autocockers are more accurate than any other gun, and they keep their accuracy over longer ranges also. So, therefore are good for back players because they are accurate over long distances, but generally shoot slower. They are also good for front players because front players don't get many shots,so with the autococker's accuracy, those few shots will count more. Electros are great too though. I good, reliable, yet affordable electro is the Impulse. They are under $500 and with the right trigger and a vivsion eye, they are completly awesome, an are capable of VERY high rates of fire. It really depends on how you play and what you like. My idea is for you to get an electronic autococker. Most look awful you may say, but the racegun and centerflag uprising trgger frames are great without the ugly front block of the others. Hoped it heped.

kr8er · 05-10-2002, 08:44 PM

too bas cockers arent more accurate because accuracy depends on a paint/barrel match......

Gekiganger273 · 05-10-2002, 09:09 PM

Mags suck end of story

urworstnitemare · 05-11-2002, 08:21 AM

Mags do not suck, Ive owned both and a like them both. They both have their own good qualities. But a cocker has more room to cutomoze which is why i use one.

Well some people have proven that closed bolt guns shoot more accuratly than open bolt guns because the ball sits in the breech longer.

VeNoM · 05-11-2002, 12:05 PM

if you feel the need for speed, go electro. otherwise i would say cocker. i feel that the ONLY thing that electros have a cockers is ROF. this is more important to some than it is to others, i dont care for the ability to run through paint faster than i can reload it and i use paint much more efficiently with my cocker. cocker accuracy has always been something to debate, but i do feel it is more accurate than alot of markers as it kicks less and is very consistent. . . a cocker with hinge is plenty fast enough for me

Shoe3 · 05-11-2002, 05:42 PM

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amz370 · 05-11-2002, 06:06 PM

well if u want speed...id get a cocker with hinge
cause once u break 8+ bps ur just waisting paint imo
with a hinge u can get like 10 and u know every one says u can hold some one in a bunker with out that speed shooting
u can hold some one down at 1 bps....
but cockers are very good...may not be the lightest but they can be pretty light guns, they are accurate and if u get good with one u will ebable to shoto fairly fast
the only electro id get...impy may be a gz timmy

kr8er · 05-11-2002, 08:31 PM

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ok, i can explain why closed bolt is more accurate. paintballs are like water baloons. now open bolt is like throwing the baloon in the air, and smacking it towards your opponent. closed is like throwing it strait at your opponent. as you can see less distortion=more accuracy. as far as range goes, autocockers seem to have more range because they dont curve untill a little longer, making it seem like farther range, when its just more accurate at a farther range.

oh yea i forgot about the little elves that live inside cockers that give it more accruacy and distance..

Absolution · 05-12-2002, 10:45 AM

I always hear cocker owners saying something to the effect of "i wont have to worry about my batteries dying on me in the middle of a game". Well the last couple tournaments, the cockers had more problems than the electros. People messing with timing and pressure, and all that other stuff. Anyways, how about that shocker? Ok, it's closed bolt, rips insane bps, It's not even that big or heavy anymore, and comes with that max-flo and 14 AA. It has LP operation stock, has a flat trajectory, and is deadly accurate. For back players, you can't really go wrong with a shocker. Autocockers are great markers, but I would go electro as far as back. Playing mid or front, I would go with either a cocker or electro. But back is all about the sustained bps, front is not. Go with electro for back

Forgotten-Son · 05-12-2002, 11:15 AM

First of all autocockes are one of the most reliable tournament guns but no contrare to popular believe their performance does not match or overweigh the performance of a high end electro. I sold my autococker to buy my intimidator and I havn't regretted the decision once, its twice as fast, and just as acrruate since it uses the same threads. But, you pay for electronic performance that's for sure..

amz370 · 05-12-2002, 03:33 PM

im a pod bich....ie back person...i have a cocker my next gun will be a cocker then after that may be an impy or angel
u can get a high rof with a cocker i cn pull like 8 with my slider..when i get a hinge on my new cocker i can get like 10 or so...thats a damn good speed electro's are good...i like cockers

Crisis · 05-12-2002, 03:42 PM

okay HERE I GO AGAIN. CLOSED bolt vs OPEN Bolt has NOTHING to do with accuracy. I will state that to my grave, it has been PHSYICALLY PROVEN in a bench test between 2 guns, same barrels, same paint, same conditions. THE ONLY thing that makes a gun ACCURATE is the paint to barrel match, consistency and KICK. now it is PROVEN 100% true that a closed bolt gun has LESS kick right at the moment that a ball is shot then a open bolt. THAT HAS ALOT to do with accuracy..

I've seen 3 guns, that will ALL Blow away the MOST expensive angel I have ever seen.. these are them

1 : Cocker, w/ Freak barrel (running MARB paint)

2 : SHOCKER, w/ Freak Barrel (MARBS)

3 : SPYDER R.A.I.L mod w/ Freak Barrel (MARBS)

go read up on the Spyder R.A.I.L mod http://www.deadlywind.com/ . for all you NON closed bolt believers.

Closed bolt is definatly an advantage in the kick department but i have seen some SERIOUSLY modified MATRIX, BUSHMASTER, ANGELS, and IMPULSES, that have little to no noticable kick at all, thereby putting them in the classical "Cocker Accurate" catagory.

I hope I put this debate to rest, where it belongs.. MYTH'S SUCK!

Shoe3 · 05-12-2002, 03:44 PM

kr8er, i don't remember flaming you, so don't flame me. mmmk

Forgotten-Son · 05-12-2002, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by amz370
well if u want speed...id get a cocker with hinge
cause once u break 8+ bps ur just waisting paint

Not unless you want to hit somebody off the break.

Forgotten-Son · 05-12-2002, 05:25 PM

Ok Dude I have played front AND back, When I played front I used a cocker with hinge, worked great but to be honest if you chop in a game you are f-ed especially if the bolt jams soo....

Get something with an eye, be it a vision impulse, timmy or a racegrip frame for your cocker..

If you want to keep a lower profile then a impy or timmy then get a smaller electro (if you got the cash) like an excalibur.

Gekiganger273 · 05-14-2002, 04:43 PM

well in front to mid i like the feeling of elctro, cuz i can pop out, fling 10-5 balls then tuck back in. For sum reason though i jez like that trgger pul feel.... angels are good no doubt about it...and they r good out of the box no less (well it should be seeing how much money u spend hehe) but cockers on the other hand shoot not too gr8 out of the box (assuming it stock no such thing as "out of the box" with custom guns lol) but if u upgrade everything on a cocker minus the body, u bought a nice angel already...(that WITH an electronic frame at $500...now u can get them as low as $399 i hear)